IYO, What Makes A Complete Guitarist

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  1. axe4me

    axe4me Well-Known Member

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    I think it's the focus on making helping the other players in the band sound good.
    Making the whole band sound good instead of being focused on me me me.
    How loud you play on stage with other musicians to achieve balance, as opposed to a loud blasting volume contest.

    BTW being a complete guitarist has nothing to do with equipment or money you spend on gear.
    It's how you use what you have already.
     
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    junk notes Well-Known Member

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    How about as simple as "works well with others".
     
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    a good balance of creativity, technical ability, & as stated above, ability to work within the confines of any given musical composition, for the benefit of the whole score...
     
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    Everything Dogs of Doom said plus a signature sound.
     
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    Own guitar, can play, will work for a Coke and a smile.
     
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    Have to be ready to body check the drummer when necessary.
     
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    A guy with his own gear and his own car.
     
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    many guitars, many amps, many pedals...


    just kidding, but we have to fool ourselves. right?
     
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    doesnt take a lot to be a complete guitarist
     
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    Changing from "me me me" to "make the whole band sound good" is a huge huge leap for some people....
     
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    that would be a action of a musician
     
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    was Segovia a complete guitarist?

     
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    Andres Segovia was one of the greatest guitarists in music history.

    Segovia's birthday is Feb. 21..............same as mine.:woot:

    I recall Christopher Parkening telling a story of a classical guitar student who was hoping to be a Segovia student.

    This "potential" Segovia student auditioned for Segovia by playing a Segovia piece.

    This "potential" played the piece with, in his opinion, improvements.

    Segovia stopped the student and told him to play the piece as written because it is perfect.

    IMO, as great a player as Segovia was, his ego was just as great.

    Andres Segovia is a great one and, IMO, not complete.
     
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    axe4me Well-Known Member

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    IMO, Andres Segovia was possibly the greatest classical guitarist.

    IMO, Sharon Isbin is complete................



     
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    I used him merely as an example. He's a strict classical artist. Many would argue that he was complete.

    I posed that as an antidote to the notion that you have to play well w/ others, hold back & let others shine, etc.

    You can be a soloist, have an ego, etc., doesn't take away from whether you are "complete", whatever that means...

    I guess it goes along w/ the age old question if you need to get married to be complete? Or can you be complete on your own?

    Some people are complete on their own, living single. Some people are miserably married. I'd consider, if you are married, but miserable, you are not complete. The problem is, if you are not complete, you will not be complete (on your own), you will not be complete when you are married. You don't add ½ + ½ & = 1, you multiply & if you multiply 1 x ½, you end up w/ ½...

    Same w/ musicians. Either you are complete, or you take away from the whole of the band.

    So, in a band, to have a band, you multiply:

    1x1x1x1=1

    If anyone is a fraction, the band is fractured...
     
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    -Can play a range of musical genres (not necessarily including classical)
    -Very competent with a wide range of techniques (e.g. fingerstyle, alternate picking, vibrato, hammer ons/pull offs, legato, sweep picking, tapping)
    -Uses music theory to construct and interpret songs
    -Can read from a musical score (or minimum chord chart) to play unlearned songs
    -Has significant experience of both performing live and recording in a studio
    -Is considerate to other musicians, playing for the song not for self, and can hold back
    -Sounds like themself on any guitar
     
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    Someone who plays tastefully, has good tone, plays what the song needs and doesn't make it all about them, and obviously you have to have good chops. Don't treat guitar like it's a competition. And above all someone who isn't a douche bag. I know plenty of good guitar players that I don't like because they have an ego and think they're all that and act like arrogant pricks.
     
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    skills/chops up and down the fretboard for starters . The ability to read music and to play it on the fly in a second . The patience to be able to work with others in a band .
     
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    axe4me Well-Known Member

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    I'm not sure that I'll ever be a complete guitarist.

    iMO, a complete guitarist is one that can play whatever he's told to play and play it well.
     
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