Is Tone In Your Hands Or Equipments?

Discussion in 'The Tone Zone' started by arayadis, Apr 28, 2019.

  1. arayadis

    arayadis Member

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    Hi guys, I made a video about most discussed topics in guitar community "is the tone really in your hands".
    Some says like that some says tone just comes from equipments?
    Please first have a look at my video and please let me know what do you think? and be kind eachother :)
    There is a small part that we use Marshall Mini Jubilee \m/
    Thanks
     
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    If you need the opinions of others about the subject please do a search of this forum.
    Hopefully we have all moved on.
    BP
     
  5. arayadis

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    Lol :) :) :)
     
  6. arayadis

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    What is the relation between your thoughts and the video that I made... I'm asking your oppinions about my video...
     
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    BanditPanda Well-Known Member

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    Like do you mean the audio or video quality?
    The subject matter has been done to death.
    I have no interest in re examining the issue.
    Thanks for posting just the same.
    BP
     
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    anitoli Well-Known Member

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    It's both!!!!!
     
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    The best guitar player can play the worst amp, the crappiest guitar ; and they will still sound good.
     
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    Had to bite my tongue!!:noplease:
    BP
     
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    the problem is, this is discussed so ad nauseam, that it has become a troll subject.

    1st you have to define your term of what "tone" is. Technique is a whole different thing, as well as melody, etc. It's obvious that when you play on different gear, it sounds different & also will cause you to play different, because different gear will make you play differently.

    A guitar set-up for legato playing won't lend to bends & vibrato as well & vise-versa. So, then your playing will sound different. If that includes string buzzing, then the buzz is a different tone, no?

    Some amps have a certain harmonic charge, while others don't. Some are more saturated & distorted & some are cleaner. Some have no headroom & are compressed, while others are the opposite.

    Technique will manipulate the tone already inherent in the gear you are using. Some people can hear certain nuances in tone, that others can't. If gear didn't make a difference, there would only be the need for 1 guitar & 1 amp. There would only be 1 tube.

    Some people claim to hear the difference between using 2 identical spec'd cap's in a circuit, built by different mfgr's, recorded w/ an iPhone full blast. :shrug:

    Then, the subject gets countless arguments on whether the tone is actually in the fingers...

    :lalala: <----- listening to the fingers... :)...
     
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    My fingers emit nothing.
     
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    I watched the video, and the answer is, No-- tone isn't in the hands. Technique, Style and Touch are with the hands. The hands do the playing while the instruments do the sounding. Petrucci played great (Technique, Style, Touch, Execution, Phrasing etc.), but his tone sounded small and boxey. Same for Satch. For a better comparison, you should've had Petrucci play through his normal rig after, and done a comparison... Same w/ Satriani... imo. I guarantee the tone would've been different.

    It would've been great if you defined your terms at the beginning of the video (Tone=Timbre, and gets conflated with Technique, Style, and Touch. 'Sounding Good' or 'Sounding Bad' is inadequate as it can be easily misapplied.) Sound=The physical wave, while tone is the descriptive color, tones/pitch, and texture of the sound.

    Many conflate playing well, with sounding 'Good' vs having 'Good' "Tone" and in a tone discussion, it leaves a lot of room for misunderstanding, imo.

    Playing proficiency and musicality are separate topics as well. A technician is not necessarily an artist/writer, entertainer, nor proficient engineer, or producer, nor musical.

    My $.02
     
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  14. anitoli

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    Jesus H, if i move two feet right or left on my cab the "tone" changes simply because i have changed the placement of my ears in relation to the speaker beam on an A cab.

    Case in point. Had a beginner player over Saturday night. He was using an LP into a 6100 and sounded shit.
    Wasn't the gear he just had no technique which translated into awful output. The gear only reproduces what it's fed.
     
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    I thought it was very obvious in his video.
    Several players, playing the same music, for the most part with the same notes and chords on the same equipment ALL SOUNDED THE SAME.

    It does not matter if you are Petrucci, Satriani, King, Clapton, Vaughan or any other guitar god or any of his students in the demo as long as the same note or chord is played it will sound the same.

    When I pass by a dead horse I have to kick it just for the hell of it.
     
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    I change power tubes every 5000 hours. Put fresh strings on when the go flat. Buy various pedals for different effects all of which affect my tone.
    But i have the same old fingers everyday and all i do to them is trim my nails which have nothing to do with the sound of my guitar or amp.
     
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    mickeydg5 Well-Known Member VIP Member

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    I understand this is the wave of the future guitar god and omnipotent tone.


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  18. LRT#1

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    Here we go again.

    It's been said tone is in the shirtless
     
  19. Derek S

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    ^^^ OH SNAP! :p
     
  20. 67Mopar

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    Not true! Hand vibrato is key.
     

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