I Need A Small Recording Set Up?

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  1. ampeq

    ampeq Well-Known Member

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    OK, here is what I want to get. I need a good set of speakers, I'm thinking something like Yamaha HS-8 or JBL 3 series (308) They would be for everything I hope, stereo, playback for the recorder and stereo to play the rhythm and record a lead. They have 8" woofers so I shouldn't need sub's.

    Next I need a good recorder, Tascam / Zoom R-16 something like that. I want to be able to record to a Dig. HD or SD card to add track's to. Then record to USB and CD-R. Then I can record part's, send it to a buddy of mine and he'll put a drum track to it and send it back. I can then play the CD until I get what I want and add to it for a final disk. So if I need a CD-R and play back machine also let me know what would be good.

    Mic's I can figure out, to start I'll get a couple 57's and maybe one real good one for guitar. I'm not duplicating CBS so I would like to get everything for about $2000 depending on the monitors. The JBL's seem like the best deal. Any help will help.
     
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    justinrhoads80 Well-Known Member

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    I would like to hear some of the advice people give.
     
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    Dogs of Doom Moderator Staff Member

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    best bet is to get a streamlined computer & an interface to record. If you have enough CPU power & RAM, you can record infinite amount of tracks w/ your DAW.

    Most digital stand-alone recorders do not have very good pre-amps & you are limited to how many tracks can be recorded at the same time.

    Get a solid state drive for the computer, will be like a CF/SD card.

    You can get a CD burner for your computer for $20 - I bought 2, about 10 years ago for that - Sony.

    So, if you own a computer, beef up the RAM, depending on the CPU, you might upgrade it. Get an interface w/ low latency, so there's no delay in sound getting to the track/monitor. Most have phantom power, so you can then add some nice mic's.

    The main thing will be, that, when you start adding tracks of wav files, that everything is streamlined w/ no bottlenecks, like slow hard drives, running out of RAM, or taxing your CPU beyond capabilities. You start running 24 tracks of 96/24 files, all at the same time, then adding effects, etc, you can start bogging down things easily & if there's any hiccups, you'll easily find out & sometimes run into a crash, which might mean starting over from some point.

    Read the recording thread. It's lengthy, but skimming through it, you can find some questions asked/answered in there.
     
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    ibmorjamn Well-Known Member

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    You can also send tracks you record with your DAW using dropbox (saved )via the internet.
     
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  5. LyseFar

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    At my homestudo I have a pair of Yamaha HS-7, a Steinberg UR22 MKII and a fast laptop (I7 / SDD drive).
    The preamps in the Steinberg are pretty good - Yamaha D-PRE Class-A. A SM57 mics and an sE Z5600 for vocals.
    When I mix I have to compensate (be easy on the lows) for not having a sub, but that is not a problem. The most important thing, in my opinion, is the placement of the monitors. They need about 1.5 meters behind them for the bass reflex. Also think about some room treatment - it does wonders.
     
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    I had a Korg D-1600 and a Boss BR-1600. Both were good, but the Korg had better preamps and was more stable. It actually had very nice FX.

    Two years ago, I got a MacBook Pro, Focusrite interface and Logic Pro X. There is a learning curve, but the capabilities are so much better. The FX are great, you can use Plug-In's, recording tracks is easy, doing Take 1 through X is easy, and then you can pick the best sections of songs to put it all together.

    I also have the Yamaha HS-8's. Did a lot of research and testing and they were clearly the best for the $ to me.

    I'd recommend going the computer route. You can get a used MacBook Pro, Focusrite Scarlett, HS-8's and be real close to your budget.

    In summary, the Korg did a great job, but it is archaic to use. Logic Pro is quite intuitive once you start messing with it.

    DP
     
  7. J E H

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    Review everything you get BEFORE buying.
    One of our recording "studios" is in the computer.
    Pretty small -- as far as space. LOGIC PRO
     
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    S.A.T.O. Well-Known Member

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    I have a Tascam DP-24 for recording I like it
     
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    JimiRules Well-Known Member

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    My band uses one of those too. We record everything to that, take the wav files and put them on a PC and use mixcraft to mix everything.
     
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    I have the same and it's great.
     
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    No matter where you start small....it's bound to grow massively.
    So no matter what you start with -think about using it with whatever you add later. (or having capability to add it later)
     
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    ampeq Well-Known Member

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    This is the stuff I started with, (plus cables and mic stand). The R16 comes with the software for mixing. It wasn't very expensive and should do everything I'll need for quite a while. I'm hoping I can figure out a way to use my Fractal FX-8 to add effects for mixing, if not I'm sure I can get something. I ended up going with the JBL's after listening to both the Yamaha 8" & the JBL 8", it was $150 a speaker more for the Yamaha's and I thought the JBL's sounded just as good if not flatter / better. We'll see how it works in a few days.

    1 R16 $399.99 Zoom 16-track SD Rec/Controller

    1 SRH440 $125.00 $79.00 $79.00 Shure Closed Monitor Headphones

    1 SM57 $124.00 $99.00 Shure Dynamic Inst Microphone

    1 DN300CMK2 $199.00 $199.00 Denon CD/USB Audio Player/rec

    2 LSR308MK2 $311.25 $199.00 $398.00 JBL 8" LSR 3 Series MK2 Monitor (ea)
     
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    Just a thought, and you probably already considered this, but you may want to consider something like Protools, Reaper (which I think you can still get it free), or StudioOne (which I use). The benefit here is that you can record, mix, edit, and store all of your tracks. You can get a PreSonus DAW which comes with StudioOne. Sweetwater has a bundle deal (link below) that includes USB Audiobox interface 96, headphones, mic, monitors, and studioOne all for $299.

    https://www.sweetwater.com/store/de...imate-usb-2.0-hardware-software-recording-kit
     
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  15. ampeq

    ampeq Well-Known Member

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    I think the R16 comes with a free copy of one of those, it might be Studio One. I think I got everything I need for starters. I put it on their 3 month payment plan, it came out to about $450 for the first one and two more of about $400 each. It makes it easy to blow money you probably wouldn't any other time.
     
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    Neil Skene Well-Known Member

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    Im another one who thinks the computer is the way to go, you can add a better interface later if you want and there are some really good mic preamps out there for later if the bug bites also. I use Pro tools which lets me do lots of things a stand alone recorder can't do. I have a drum program I use in Pro tools as well, which can burn up a lot of time if you let it. I wrote this drum track, played and recorded bass and guitar. the bass is my start through a bass simulator in Pro tools. Its a lot of fun fiddling with all this stuff so be warned, a few late nights are on the horizon.

     

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