How Do You Thread Your Guitar Strings In The Tuners When You ReString?

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  1. axe4me

    axe4me Well-Known Member

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    I did a thread on top mounting strings..............I think there are different ways to secure strings at the tuning peg.

    I don't even tie the strings.

    I put the string through the stem hole.

    Measure straight through about 2 to 2 1/2 string lengths and cut.

    I bend about 1/8" of string sticking out of the stem hole then tighten.

    I do one turn over the 1/8" and the rest of the windings I do underneath the 1/8" portion.

    Tighten to pitch.

    Stretch the strings and check truss rod.

    Simple.

    I think.:fever:
     
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    axe4me Well-Known Member

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    The Dan Armstrong string lock method.

    A. Lock string.
    B. Tune to pitch.
    C. Stretch string majorly, then re-tune to pitch.

    Do this repeatedly, until the string holds pitch when stretched.
    Then go on to the next string.
    Even if you have locking tuners:
    The string must be stretched and re-tuned over and over until it holds pitch.
    If you find that your guitar won't stay in tune, may have not locked and stretched the strings.

     
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    axe4me Well-Known Member

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    The problem, and it isn't a massive one, is that without a locking nut, when you bend a string or use a non-locking trem, any winds around the post tighten and relax too. Friction and play in the post wind and nut friction add up, and the string will rarely relax back to exactly the same tension, and therefore tuning may be out. The more winds, the more play in the system.

    I used to use your method @axe4me, with 1 wind over and 2 under, but now do the same as @ampmadscientist.
    It can be tricky to get the right amount of turns around the post the first few times (i.e. no more than one).
    You do need some string going around the post, but only 3/4 to 1 whole turns, and you need just over a 1/2 turn to lock the free end of the string.
    I do this with locking nut systems too. Good for practice, and just a habit now.
     
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    Lance Chambers Well-Known Member

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    I use the "PRS" method with three wraps on 6,5,4 and four wraps on 3,2,1,........and top wrap the stop bar setups. The sustain is incredible.:flex:

    F/R setups are different (as u kno).:nuts:

    :cheers:
     
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    Vinsanitizer 1st new member 2020 VIP Member

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    For many years I simply strung 'em through the bridge, then pulled them toward the headstock about 1 post past the one I'm stringing up, cut it, then push the end through the hole and spin it into a downward spiral. Simplest, quickest and easiest way to do it. You have to leave about 1/8" of the string end sticking out of the hole.

    Then I read about the so-called "correct way" do do it, and strung 'em up that way for years. But eventually I got tired of the hassle and the bloody finger punctures when taking the frickin' things back off every gig or two when I'd change strings. I found zero tuning stability issues with either method, so I went back to the simpler, faster, easier method above. I've never had tuning issues with any guitar of quality, even Gibsons where players often complain about the strings catching at the nut. If I do have any issue with nuts on guitars, it's that I often see the slot heights cut unevenly, and that really bugs the crap out of me if I have to pull out nut slotting tools on a factory fresh guitar (filing nut slots is like "a little deeper... a little deeper... a little deeper... Oh CRAP - TOO DEEP! :mad:).

    Another key to good tuning stability is knowing how to stretch a new set of strings properly after you put them on. There are nylon string stretchers that can help with that, they only cost a few dollars.
     
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    Exactly like this, has worked for me since 1979!!

    Measure straight through about 2 to 2 1/2 string lengths and cut.

    I bend about 1/8" of string sticking out of the stem hole then tighten.

    I do one turn over the 1/8" and the rest of the windings I do underneath the 1/8" portion.

    Tighten to pitch.

    Stretch the strings and check truss rod.
     
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    No tie, no lock twist. Straight in. One full wrap around the post is sufficient for all wound strings, plain strings take two full wraps. End trimmed very close to the tuner shaft. I've been doing it this way for 35 years and if it'd done exactly as described, it's never failed me.

    I've had strings slip their ball ends. But I've never had a wrap failure on top if I got a full wrap on the wound strings and two full wraps on the plain strings.
     
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    I do this. Simple and never fails.
     
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    Bull Rock Well-Known Member

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    Bull Rock Well-Known Member

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    Good enough for bonamassa. ^^^
     
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    Locking tuners. Zero wrap, put them in the hole, lock it and stretch.
    No slippage on the posts :)
     
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    Fucking A.
    Fuck all that over and under shit, whenever I try that crap the string breaks before I even get it up to pitch.
    Any guitar I play regularly gets locking tuners, The End.
     
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    mickeydg5 Well-Known Member VIP Member

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    Another vote for locking tuners.

    Otherwise 1/8" bend, overlap and then wrap below until in tune.

    Actually most of my guitars are headless.
     
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    Only my San Dimas has locking tuners.
    Can't afford to change out the other 3 sets (yet).
     
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    ive been doing this for over 10 years now and find it best

     
  18. Bull Rock

    Bull Rock Well-Known Member

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    Yah man. . Best, quickest and easiest way I've found.
     
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    I use the tie method on my Gibson's. But I don't let the string wind a full turn on the post.
    Cut the string after tuning, as short as you can. Don't use a string winder. Can change a string pretty fast if necessary. Learned to not like windings around the post after playing G&L's with Sperzel's for many years. So I came up with this. It works for me. With cutting the end real short , it just a little wiggle to get it off the post. If I knew how to do video I'd show you. I might try the over and under thing. But I'll need to buy a winder first. Not gonna turn the knob that many times by hand.
     

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