Hendrix’s Marshall Settings

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  1. Mitchell Pearrow

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    Sorry, but you did ask!

    Dick Dale

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    But then he did start out with R/h just turned upside down.
    I've seen this with a fair few 70's lefty bass players too.
    Notice the bass strings are at the bottom on this lefty he's playing.
    Looks like 4 wound strings too.
     
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    Yeah that was a really weird thing about Dick Dale! He learned to play on a right handed guitar, and no one told him,... “hey, you know the strings are backwards that way”. :lol:

    Have you guys ever seen him play? It’s fun to watch him negotiate the fretboard with the strings in that position,....

     
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    I doubt he dimed his amps. It would have been way too loud?
     
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    I always hear things that he dimed his amps and others saying no. I'd like to know myself. I've dimed my Super Lead and my JTM45 and I didn't really care for that sound myself. It was too squishy and compressed for my taste. Between 4 and 7 was the sweet spot for me.

    I've heard the earlier plexi's (68/69) didn't have the gain that the metal panels had and were not as bright. I always found Jimi's tone to be a bit on the darker side. Love his tone though!

    All on 10 just doesn't seem right to me. But I'd still like to know.

    Wasn't it said that was also what Eddie did to get the brown sound?
     
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    Im guessin that Jimi set his amps in the sweet spot ,like everybody else
    Basing that just on things I remember where the Fuzz face seemed to be off.
    But again , a Fuzz Face with the guitar volume down , can give up some good overdrive or mellow cleans,depending....
    Maybe it's hard to separate Jimi's live tone from the Fuzz Face ?

    Where's @tone seaker , I bet he has an informative 2c on this one


    Brilliant , a cinematic epic ...in 5 sec
     
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    Playing in E flat is tone darkening.
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    (Dick Dale)
    He likes it super clean w/ external Fender reverb unit. Lots of mega - surf reverb.
     
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    That's true. But I never found it that dark myself. I used to play in E flat before and didn't notice a massive difference. But it's a good point.
     
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    That's exactly how I learned to play! I played like that for 10 years, nobody told me, I figured it out on my own I was doing it wrong and bought a lefty guitar and started from scratch! It went alot faster the 2nd time round, only a week to learn lol!
     
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    Ok, this explains a lot! :fingersx::fever::facepalm: :lol:
     
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    I do know one lefty who just got it on with a right hander.
    That way he never had to face all the problems of restringing righty's or the poor choice of real lefty guitars.

    I know the thought of trying a lefty now is too alien. But are there any advantages to forcing yourself to learn the opposite handed guitar from the outset (dexterity wise)?
     
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  14. Matthews Guitars

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    I can only tell you that my test for any "vintage" Fender amp (original silverface or earlier) is to turn bass, treble, and midrange (if there is one) up to 10 and play. Volume at whatever level you're comfortable with. A healthy Fender should be in beast mode with these settings. Fat, full, rich, and clear. I'm not suggesting diming the volume but the tone controls at 10 should create a great tone.

    As for the rest, tone is a personal thing. Trying to cop Jimi's preferred amp settings won't turn you into Jimi.

    Now, my OPINION on settings is that I would want a custom amp builder to adjust things so that a completely dimed out amp should sound like an angry god coming to earth to extract retribution from the wicked. I think that an amp should not sound bad when any control on it is maxed out. In most circuits, maxed out controls are as close as it gets to letting the amp run free without being held back.

    That's key to how I think about amplification: Their natural state is to deliver everything they've got. The purpose of all those controls is to restrict it from going ballistic, in a controlled manner. I want the amp to sound awesome with all those controls at their bypass settings. (Cranked.) If the amp is tailored to sound awesome at those settings, then you have an intrinsically good platform to do tone shaping on.
     
  15. Shane Stevenson

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    Very well stated.
     
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    Regarding left handed guitars, when my nephew, who was just 13 at the time, and left handed, decided he wanted to learn guitar, I suggested to him that since he had not yet started, he might consider learning to play right handed, as that would make it much more convenient for him to find guitars in the future.

    He took my advice. And I built him his first guitar. One that he still has today, 17 years later, and which has received many compliments over the years as it is a fully professional grade instrument. He's a better player than me and since he never had to do the left-right transition, it caused him no problems.
     
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    Oh Yes. Then rewind and watch it again. David Leans greatest work I feel.
    I read a piece somewhere written by a promoter who said more or less that Jimi sauntered up to the amp, ran his hand along the top of the dials diming all of them and hit a chord that shook the venue to it's foundations. He also said that he had the fuzzface running into the wah.
     
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    Thanks for the link. It's a good one.
    BP
     
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    Remember if you flip the strings on a strat the angle of the bridge pickup means the treble strings are running over the part that's furthest from the bridge taking the edge off the treble strings and some bass off the bass strings. Always meant to try flipping a lh strat to rh to see what difference it makes.
     
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