Help With Jcm 800 Restoration

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  1. David G

    David G New Member

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    Hi everybody,

    I just bought a JCM 800 2203 from 1981. It sounds great but the tolex has some wear and tear. I’d like to have it replaced, but I wanted to have your expert opinion on these points first:

    - Will it lower its value if I decide to sell it someday?
    - Is it an abomination to choose a white tolex? I believe that the first white models were released the following year for the twentieth anniversary of Marshall, but I'm not 100% sure?
    - Same question for the grill cloth: would it be an anachronism to choose a fawn color instead of the current black?

    Thank you very much for your help! Kind regards,

    David
     
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  2. el_bastardo

    el_bastardo Well-Known Member

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    It's your amp, do whatever you want.

    But if originality and resale value are a concern, maybe just leave it alone.
     
  3. BygoneTones

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    Post some photos showing condition. Usually it is best to leave them alone though. Honest roadwear looks cool, but mods by previous owners and poor retolexing jobs do not.

    In terms of colour and resale value people tend to want the standard black in my experience. Simply because most people have black amps. Also, anything other than the standard grill and tolex just screams recover job and non-originality, and also looks a bit naff in my opinion.

    If you are going to tolex it yourself then white is the most unforgiving visually if you make any mistakes. Personally Im not a fan of the cane basketweave unless its on an orange / matamp.
     
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  4. David G

    David G New Member

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    Thank you for the quick answers! Here are some pictures of the amp… I thought I'd have it restored by a pro, so I don't have any fear as to how this is going to be done. However, I'd like to make sure it won't lower the resale value, i.e. because of an inconsistency with the year of production.

    Speaking of resale price, what is in your opinion the value of a (non-modded) 2203 from 1981 (serial number 04578N) in this condition?

    Thank you again for the kind help!
     

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    el_bastardo Well-Known Member

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    Good sweet lordy please don't mess with that amp.

    IMO I'd put the value of that amp around $1500. Hell, maybe a little more.
     
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    Geeze Well-Known Member

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    Oh hell no! My 90's JCM 900 doesn't look that good.

    Second option - if the current condition just KILLS you - get a second head shell and cover it in the fawn. That way if and when you sell the original is still pretty. I did this on a 2555X.

    Russ
     
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    I thought you were talking about a speaker cab for some reason.

    Yes definitely keep that one as it is. Looks near perfect to me. Clean it maybe? Stiff brush and hot water - no chemicals.

    You could always get a separate head box made in white, but dont destroy the original.
     
  8. David G

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    Thank you guys, I didn't even thought about buying a new head box! ;)
     
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    I 100% agree with whats already been said....

    That's called "patina" and its worth a premium just like it is!
     
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    That one actually looks pretty good....it's a vintage amp. They look cool with the occasional scar and bump. Reminds you that it's a working musician's amplifier.

    My vote, keep it as is!
     
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    Yep..please don't "restore" this...
     
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    If the amp is original, and you plan on making money when you sell it...then don't do anything.

    If it's all messed with (already)..then have at it.

    But torn tolex improves tone, and so does purple python tolex, come to think of it.
     
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    Yep, lots of that can be cleaned up. Give it a good clean and leave it. If you are using it out anywhere, white would look worse in short order.
    Why is there an inconsistency with the year of production?
    My first Marshall was an 83 white 2203. It looked hot. I really liked the white. But don't change this one.
     

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