Help determine which lamps are in the 6100.

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  1. Pavel125DV

    Pavel125DV Member

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    Greetings to all! I must say at once that I have no opportunity to see this amplifier live, as well as ask the seller about the model of lamps. Now, the actual question... There are four Marshall 6100 models: - Blue TOLEX 6100 30 anniversary with EL34 lamps. - LE model with 800 pieces, a model with a black TOLEX not LM that is with EL34, and a version with a black TOLEX LM with 5881. However, recently I was surprised to see a 6100 with a blue LM TOLEX! That is, as I understand it, this is the LM version with 5881, but with a blue TOLEX! This amplifier has the corresponding LM label. And after that, I got confused....
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    And after that, I got confused.... I found an amplifier here's a photo of it. Judging by all external signs, this is the classic first model of the jubilee 6100 in 1992. There is no LM marking on it, so I decided that this is the version with el34. However, there are doubts that there may be 5881 lamps, although the corresponding LM marking and image of the 5881 lamp is also not on the front panel of the chassis. Experts, please tell me what kind of lamps are there.......
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    South Park Well-Known Member

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    El 34 for the drivers solid state for the preamp . Check the schematic to be sure
     
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    @Pavel125DV …… You’re missing the 6100LE in your list …… Brass Logo, Chassis, Tube Covers made in ‘92


    Being the MF, it comes as no surprise the answers were here all along !!!
    … It makes sense now …… LE is Limited Edition … LM is Lead Mod
    The Amp you have listed appears to me to be a Late ‘94 or ‘95 that’s been rehoused in a ‘92 Head Shell
     
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    Quit guessing on shit SP
     
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    Read carefully what I wrote. LE I did not miss and wrote that they were released 800 pieces (It about the 6100, not the 6101 combo) .The question is about the lamps in the amplifier in the last photo, not about the LE.
     
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    Ok , see that now …… But you didn’t CAREFULLY read the LAST line of my response ……
    I can almost promise someone’s Blue Head Shell got marred up so a grab and switch out for an LM chassis = One Nice Clean Head to die for and One to pedal
    There is no way to tell from the info you have so far which bottles are in an LM
     
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    This is unlikely, because the 30th Anniversary 6100 was produced from 1992 to 1994, and the LM version went into production from 94 to 99. However, this amplifier does not have the LM label. Therefore, this is the 30 th anniversary version, before the mod.
     
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    It is more important to find out whether 5881 was put in the 30 th anniversary before 94, inclusive, or whether these lamps were put exclusively in the LM version.....
     
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    The first pic has to be ‘94 or later to be an LM at all
    The second pic is a ‘92
    Still no way to determine the Glass by what is in Pic #1
     
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    That is a definite NO
    5881s were no earlier than Late ‘94 ( although some EL34s came in ‘94 and maybe ‘95 at same time as 5881s were produced )
    LM came in late ‘95/‘96 and beyond with a Sticker on the Faceplate (commonly removed )
     
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    Yep …… I said that
     
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    That same, certainly this I will learn least through 2 weeks, when this "Frankenstein" arrives me) Think real way to to know this nuance this archives Marshall) find out In what year they refused from EL34 in favor of 5881 and on serial numbers determine potential copies of. But hardly anyone needs it!)))) Other than me))) I will Write the result, if someone is interested!?
     
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    My answer to your statement was not displayed for some reason...
     
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    lol … All good brother …… I would love to know what you discover …… Good Luck !!
     
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    If someone decided to redraw (re-glue) the letters on the front panel of the 6100 chassis and change the amplifier case to a case with a blue TOLEX, then this is an extreme degree of fraud)))) If you are right, then this is a disaster... The amplifier will come from another country, even to punish him will not work....
     
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    I will report this here and give a link about the seller if he turns out to be a fraud.
     
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