Gibson 498T vs 500T

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  1. NewReligion

    NewReligion Well-Known Member VIP Member

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    My 1980 Les Paul Standard has PAF's in it. I want a hotter pickup for the bridge. I use 498T's in my other guitars but have never used a 500T which a couple of friends have suggested. Any thoughts or comments are welcomed.

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    I find the 500T too trebly and thin sounding.
     
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    I have the Explorer with the 498/500 pickups. Depending on the amp and the type of speakers used, it can sound good. I use what I call my "Blue's Cab" with the Explorer. The speakers roll off at around 4.3KHz and this smooths out the 500.

    We all know there are many variables at play here. How low do the strings ride? What brand of strings do you use? Do you have a bright amp? What about the speakers? Are they bright too?

    When I played the 500 with G12-75's, it had too much treble. The particular amp had NOS tubes and was pretty smooth. I plugged into the Blue's Cab and it sounded a lot better.

    I think Gibson got all caught up in the pickup wars and while the 500 is a hot one, it has it's limitations. I don't think being the hottest makes it the best. I think there are probably some better pickups that are not as hot as a 500, but overall sound better in a variety of amps. I would be happy if the Explorer had come with a DiMarzio PAF in the neck and a Super Distortion in the bridge. That's on my to do list.
     
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    Duncan JB. Inexpensive and excellent.
     
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    NewReligion Well-Known Member VIP Member

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    i have not played enough on these two pick ups to know them very well , but how do the 498T and the 500T sound compared to the DUNCAN JB ?
     
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    I personally think the 498T is thicker and hotter than the JB or Pearly Gates. With a 498T I can plug straight into a JCM800 2210 with no pedal and record an entire CD. :) "New Religion" I just wanted to ask some of you what you thought of the 500T and it sounds as if it was an attempt at making a high Output Pickup without consideration given to frequencie response. Guess I should stick with what I know but being a guitarist I am always listening for improvments. "G.A.S."!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    I think the best Gibson pickups are the '57 classic and classic plus.. You can't go wrong..
     
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    I prefer the 500T by a wide margin to the 498T. Much more bite and nice thick midrange tones with the 500T. Had a Les Paul DC Standard with a 498T and just couldn't get the thing to cut through the mix like I can with my Flying V with the 500T. To each his/her own, I guess...
     
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    The 500T is Smoking hot in a thin-solid bodied S.G or a Les paul Special with no Maple cap with Top heavy 52-10 strings and a 1meg pot run through a 6-10 cab or a 2x15 cab. It cut's through that way best like no other.
    I know Page used it for a While. Can't remember exactly what era or on what songs. I've got a few of them and they work real good in a Basswood bodied Axe also and it turned my "Cat" Guitar into a Honk-in Scream-in Monster that I love.
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    Thick midrange tones? No way. I still have these in my Explorer and I can't wait to get some decent replacements in.
     
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    It's working for me - what can I say? It's been a much better sounding and performing pickup.
     
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    I don't go after the hottest, just the one's that sound good. There are a lot of tried and true standards out there right now. You really can't go wrong with any of them
     
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    Here's a chart you may find useful. It's a comparison between various Gibson pups.

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    The Burstbucker Pro which is a bit hotter than the '57 sounds pretty damn good in my LP Custom but I have yet to try a 498T or other hotter pickups. Looking to try a set of Bare Knuckles (Miracle Man) pickups in my V. They sounded awesome in all the clips I've heard. Pretty hot pickup w/o being too much.
     
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    +1 on the JB, my favourite passive pickup
     
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    321 006.jpg i tried a set of zakk wylde emgs in one of my les pauls its crazy how much more tone control they have
     

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