EQ in a Vintage Modern effect loop !

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  1. Kelia

    Kelia Active Member

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    Hi guy's , yesterday for the first time , I tried a Boss GE-7 in my VM effect loop while on the HDR mode and I was very pleased on how it tamed some of the shrill frequencies for heavy Rock !

    Anyone tried this and could you share your experience ?

    Even the boost mode sounds better with the eq in !

    Tx
     
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  2. herbvis

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    Eq pedals are amazeballs in a loop. Noisegates as well
     
  3. Kelia

    Kelia Active Member

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    Amazeballs is a first for me but spot on what I'm hearing !!

    I'll try the noise gate as well when I get a chance to get one and also a BBE that someone mentioned on a JCM900 thread but can't remember !
    I might take a picture of my settings tomorrow if I get a chance .

    Thanks for sharing !
     
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    ricksconnected Well-Known Member

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    ive been preaching EQ pedals for yrs on here.
    a must have for any loop. if you dont have one your
    only getting a % of the possible tones you could be getting.
     
  5. Kelia

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    Yes !!.......I'm late to the Party but never thought this would make such a big difference !
    Never liked the VM crunch ,or was trying to find it but now with the eq in loop , it has JCM800 KT66's crunch qualities which is great !
     
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    BowerR64 Well-Known Member

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    I didn't think the VM did a good high gain sound. Maybe because it needed an EQ? i couldn't get a decent bottom end that wasn't loose and vintage sounding. Now the classic tone i loved it. The 900DR is a better clean and high gain amp for me.

    Now on the BBE thing, what ever you do don't get the red stop pedal BBE it is a mid scooper BBE you need the larger better units to keep the middle. I have a rack unit (462) that sounds good and a little half rack 262 but the sonic stop robs all the Marshall mid goodness imo. If you like that mid scoop then that pedal is a good one but compared to the other 2 units i have that one isn't one i would recommend
     
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    mickeydg5 Well-Known Member VIP Member

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    I say EQ in every loop, not just Vintage Modern.
     
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    ricksconnected Well-Known Member

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    the tone shaping you can get is crazy isnt it? if one doesnt need it just switch it off.
    its kinda sorta like adding a whole other channel to your amp. or can be if thats how one chooses to use it.
    you can find these things used for like $65. best upgrade one can get for that kind of cash.
    ok its not really an upgrade but damn.
    love to read testimonies like this when the light bulb come on for somebody. its so easy and so many refuse
    to at least try it. when i go try out amps i always bring my GE7. impossible to run a amp through its paces w/o it.
    well as long at there is a loop to run it through.
     
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  9. Kelia

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    Thanks for the input !
     
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    I would agree. Get the rackmount version of the BBE. Set the knobs around the 12-1 O'clock area. The odd thing with the BBE is, that you just have to try it and see if it works on your particular amp. It can make some amps really come alive and others not so much. It works great for a JCM 2K DSL, JMP-1 preamp, and a 900. I have found it not very good with the newer DSL, Jubilee and the new SV.
     
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  11. Kelia

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    Happy my light bulb went on !!..haha!

    I've heard about GE7 modded , what is it ?.......and there's a guy near my area who's selling a mint GE-10 , is it worthed !.....ever tried one ,?.....think this is what VH was using .
     
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    Mitchell Pearrow Well-Known Member

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    My mxr 10 band eq, took the SD1 out of the equation, and I am running straight into the front of the amp, always on and always going to be into any amp I use,
    The amps I am using are,
    Dsl40c’s, origin 50H, and if I ever use my grandsons rig , an orange TH30, with another dsl40c, Hell I like it so much I may have to get a spare, all of this was learned off of reading on this forum.
    Cheers Mitch
     
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    ricksconnected Well-Known Member

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    the GE 10 takes up a lot of room on a board. if i were to go 10 it would have to be the MXR personally.
    ive never used a modded GE 7. i cant imagine what they would or could do to it.
    im very happy with the stock version. should something happen to it i can get another and be back in business quickly
    with stock.
     
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    MonstersOfTheMidway Well-Known Member

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    Vintage Modern amps have a pretty good effects loop. I've used multi-effects (Line 6 HD500 and Boss GT10 if I remember correctly) in the 2466 with good results. The Vintage Modern also sounds great with most pedals and rack effects (rack effects I've used are Alesis Quadraverb and MidiVerb as well as Eventide H3000).

    I, too, agree with placing an EQ in the effects loop. I mostly used the built-in EQ of the multi-effects and rack effects systems because they were very powerful, offered a variety of EQ designs, and built-in was one less device to put in the signal chain. I typically favored parametric EQ over graphic EQ, but graphic EQ sounded good, too. Bottom line try out different designs and use whatever works best for your needs.
     
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    LPMarshall hack Well-Known Member

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    Speaking of FX loops...some FX loops have that button that has two db modes. Which one are you "suppose" to use?
     
  16. Kelia

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    Plus 4db suits rack and minus 10 is for floor pedals.
     
  17. Kelia

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    Great info !........thanks !
     
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    Is the Mxr as good as the older GE7?

    And what does the BBE do exactly , is it like a enhancer or something ?
     
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    Holy Jesus...so simple! Thank you
     
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    ricksconnected Well-Known Member

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    the mxr has 3 more bands of course. the GE 7 and the MXR are the most popular
    and use the most by far. either one will get the job done for you very nicely.
    the GE 7 can be found on the used market much cheaper though. personally ive used
    the GE 7 for decades with favorable results. never had the need or desire to look into
    any other brand. it just works. if i were to find a ok deal on a MXR 10 i might try it
    on my own stuff but have used them playing other folks rigs with equal success to my
    GE 7. you just cant go wrong with either one.
    where are you located if i may ask?
     

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