DSL100H, Origin... what Marshall?

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  1. TheOgre

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    Hey mates! Signed few days ago, first post.

    I'm in my eternal search for the 'perfect tone', as everyone else (I believe). Have been playing guitar for 15 years or so, have two active bands (one mainly britrock styled, with which already recorded an album, and another more hard/heavy styled). Still, I have little experience with Marshalls (the place where I live here in Brazil isn't that easy to try different gears).

    However, recently an wild DSL100H (2012 version) appeard, unique owner, very conservated, two years of bedroom use. I have read and seeing great things about them (DSL family) and planning on enter the into the "M's madness"! But still couldn't try it yet!

    My current rig is:
    - a Laney TI-15 (which am using just its poweramp)
    - a 56inc TubeStation (brazilian made dual channel preamp based on XTC green/red channels)
    - a monster board (tuner, fuzzes, boosters, mods, delay, wah... lots of pedals)

    The thing is: the Laney, in the same time that has that classic tone and a good amount of gain on tap, is letting me down in versatility and, specially, audio power! Not in every gig I can mic it, and then, the guitar gets lost (volume-wise)... the versatility I resolved with the external preamp, but the audio power is still lacking a bit!

    So... I could get this used DSL1000H plus a matching 2x12 (with the original 70/80's), a DSL40CR, a Origin 50 or even the newer DSL100HR (and will need a cabinet)... OK, I know, the cost of each izn't the same, but they aren't SO distinct here in Brazil (except for the DSL100HR, that costs the same as the used one + cabinet).

    Is there any affordable option, or is the DSL the better chance for me out there? I'm opened to other brands too.

    Here's my wish list:
    - british voiced (love modern bands and their tone, but that 800's growl is freakin' awesome)
    - all tube
    - head (preferably)
    - at least 30W, but a switch for lower power (ans even a silent line out) is would be highly appreciated
    - if single channel, that it has a good crunch, cleanable with the volume pot, and boostable for a high gain growling (even with the DSL, the idea is to use green on Crunch and red on Lead 01, as I don't care for a crystal clear clean sound)
    - effects loop

    Thanks in advance!
     
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    :welcome: To the forum, the DSL is more modern voiced, but with the 2 channels, green and red, you will have the tones you are looking for, I have both the Origin 50H, and Dsl40c’s, so I am covered in both tones , so my opinion is biased, good luck with your decision.
    Cheers Mitch
     
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    This DSL40CR or this DSL100HR. Lots of variety and lots of power.
    Plus they have dedicated EQ for each channel whereas the DSL's do not.
    BP
    p.s. And :welcome:
     
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    BP, I am confuzzled about your statement above...am I drunk or are you??
     
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    I don't see anything in this thread that would be puzzling Blinky.??
    BP
     
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    Yes as per the OP's thread title the DSL100H is spoken about.
    Further into his message he refers to a DSL40CR and DSL100HR.
    When I say " they " I'm referring to those 2 amps (DSL40CR and DSL100HR).
    As you know the DSLR series has the dedicated EQ for each channel whereas the DSL's ( that is to say the previous DSL series ) does not.
    BP
     
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    I don't see any dedicated EQs on any of the DSL-Rs, it appears to be shared like the older versions. What I do see that the older ones don't have, however, is two master volume controls, each one dedicated to it's own channel?
     
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    Thank you, mate!!

    Awesome! And thank you! Didn't payed attention to that detail (dedicated EQs) 'til now... although, electronically, it's a relatively simple modification (adding an EQ section to a channel), it's a significant addition to the amp! And, does the new model still have the same reliability as the previous one?

    On second thought, the idea of getting the DSL40CR, and turn it into a head in the future, isn't so bad! It's significantly enough power, and an very interesting option! And, as for the mods: they are still interesting for the latest model (like the changes the Lead 01's treble capacitor, the replacement of the R111 (I don't know the number in the new model) for a choke, ...)?
     
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    Are you ok BP?
     
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    Yes indeed Mr. Ogre. Here's a picture of my DSL40C which I ( my tech actually) converted into a head.
    BP
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    LOL Scozz...s'up
    LOL... Ah...there we go ! My bad,my very, very bad. Here I was thinking EQ's and it's actually volumes not EQ's at all ! . :slap:
    My apologies to the confuzzled and to the OP, Mr. Ogre, for providing wrong info. Please note,Mr.Ogre.
    Blinky, not drunk! Maybe I should get drunk eh. :agreed:
    BP
     
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    Hmm... it's giving me some new ideas about the way to go! The newer model has some pretty interestings advantages (silent output, dual channel with separated EQs, dual masters...)...
     
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    Please note...my previous error...not separate EQ's but rather separate Master Volumes..
    BP
     
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    Okay, I figured it was as much lol
    Not a big deal at all, I just didn't want the OP going amp shopping misinformed lol imagine the disappointment lol


    I'm having a few drinks, feel free to join me!!

    :cheers:
     
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    :lol: :yesway:
     
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    Btw @BanditPanda, that’s one hip looking Dsl40! I mean to tell you that every time I see it!

    Are those 1-12s,....and what speakers are in those cool cabs?!
     
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    Thanks scozz. Yes I went for 1 x 12 cabs.
    I got the WGS tandem of ET65 and Retro 30.
    BP
     
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    I'm already hiccuping because of the booze!!
    :cheers:

    Looked at Marshall website and solved the "EQ problem" before seeing your last posts, don't you worry!! Thinking this will be the way to go... grab a DSL40CR and make it a head + cabinet in a near future!

    Did you feel any necessity to do mods in yours? I'm far from it for a while, but has an Electrical Engineering degree, read Blencowe's and Kuehnel's books, and could do the job, if it must be done!
     

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