Ceriatone 18 watt vs marshall sv20h

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  1. Andries

    Andries New Member

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    i,m thinking about buying one of these amps for an ac/dc sound

    Ceriatone 18 watt marshall clone with tube rectifier
    500 euros

    Marshall sv20h
    775 euros

    I was wondering if there is a huge different in sound.
    The advantage of the 18 watter is that i have money left to buy the solo dallas pedal to replicate angus sound.

    But maybe the plexi is worth the money and sounds much better
     
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    Filipe Soares Well-Known Member

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    EL84 vs EL34. That's the main difference.
     
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    Kinkless Tetrode Well-Known Member

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    Is the ceriatone 18 watt a clone of the Marshall 18 watt or a clone of a 50 watt plexi but using EL84s?

    The original Marshall 18 watt had no negative feedback and a different preamp topology, which combined with the EL84s gives a rather different feel and sound from a EL34 or KT66 plexi.

    I think I would go with the SV20.
     
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    775 euros?
    Can you tell me what place do you buy It?
    Thanks.
     
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    SV20H , fantastic amp.
     
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    For AC/DC, definitely the SV.
    The Ceriatone, because of the EL84 AND tube rectifier will have more sag, a tubbier low end and probably won't be sharp and punchy enough.
    Not a knock on Ceriatone btw, they build great amps, it's just not the right one for the kind of tones you want.
     
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    Hey Sky,just curious.... is it possible that the solo dallas pedal could make up for what you describe coming from the Ceriatone.? Ultimately over all I guess I'm asking can a pedal over come or mask an amps short comings or does the amps tubes / circuit rule?
    BP
     
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    Why buy a Marshall clone when you can get a Marshall?
     
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    Never played the SoloDallas boost, so I can't comment on it directly, but IME no boost can make an amp more percussive that it already is (if anything, boosts tend to add compression, especially since as I understand it the Solo Dallas emulates the companding circuit from the original wireless rig). And to me the AC/DC sound is very percussive and not very saturated. I mean, Malcolm plays almost clean. His perceived gain comes more from sheer volume and both power tubes and speakers being pushed than from anything else. At which point EL84s tend to sound greasier and the whole amp feels saggy. Which is a great blues tone, just not the right one for the job.
    Regarding Angus tone (since he's the one using the Solo Dallas, and was using the Schaffer-Vega wireless system that the Solo Dallas emulates), it's very percussive as well, the boost adding the compression and saturation. So again, more of a "Plexi" tone than an 18w tone, as the SV doesn't get fuzzy and saggy until it's totally dimed.
    Again, not a knock on the Ceriatone (or the Marshall 18w) at all, just that it's a different tone and feel. And for an AC/DC vibe, I'd definitely get the SV over the 18w.
     
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    Who is selling at 775euros
     
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    G the wildman Well-Known Member

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    Guys how do I use my Mini Mass when it arrives. E.g. plug it in the loop, front or other?

    G
     
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    You put it between the speaker out and the speaker

    2019-09-14 09-49-33.jpg
     
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    I don't know but in Europe some countrys have less taxes than others, maybe in Andorra you can find It more cheapper than 775.:shrug:
     
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    You might want to look at Ceriatone`s 20w Yeti [Son of Yeti] as it has a hot-rodded classic Marshall type circuit w/ 3 voicings [classic Plexi tones, 80`s hot-rodded w/gain added tones, and 'modern' tones w/ even more gain added] and also 2 Brite switches that gives you quite a few tone options [along w/ the standard TMB EQs]. Killer amps that deliver classic Marshall tones & less $$$ than the Studio Vintage. I have no affiliation w/ Ceriatone other than I own 2 of their great amps! Check out the sounds clips here:
    http://www.ceriatone.com/ceriatone-son-of-yeti/
    [​IMG]
     
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    The Ceriatone 18W won't have enough headroom to replicate AC/DC, and the EL84's sound different than EL34's
     
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    if ceriatone put in the market a hot rodded plexi with EL34... I´ll go for it in a blink of an eye. but for now the only el34 amp I´ll recommend is the 5150iii LBX, and it´s not the case of the OP
     
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    Almost all of these are EL34's
    http://www.ceriatone.com/series/model/hot-rodded-plexi/
     
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    Did you look at this one? http://www.ceriatone.com/british-style-2202/ *Watch clip #2
    I just went through the Marshall sounding amp thing and came to this conclusion, Ceriatone vs. Marshall: Ceriatone is better sounding to me, way more versatile, better made, can use any tubes, (even not matched) able to adjust bias on the fly, (hotter / colder) and is cheaper. I bought a 50w modded Plexi style but they have a lot of British type amps. Your call, and you might like the Marshall better, however buy with your ears. I wanted something that could do a lot of British type tones, old to new, clean to cranked, in a simple rugged point to point type amp. I feel Ceriatone does this as good or better than any other amp of this type and at a better price point.
     
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    The Pussy TrimmerTM is a very nice and thoughtful feature that this amp has ! :drool:
    BP
     
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