No getting away from the fact that celestion speakers are the bench mark speakers . I don't think anyone of sound mind can disagree with this statement . Let's face if all clones no matter how good or bad are ultimately compared to Celestion . I look at it like if you want the 'Marshall ' sound , tone , however you want to put it you can only truly achieve with a Marshall amp . Sure people go to great lengths to produce a better Marshall than Marshall , but it won't be a Marshall . Only a Celestion is a Celestion there is no substitute why bother with anything else ?