Discussion in 'Marshall Amps' started by Magus Tony, Sep 16, 2018.
It would be great to see it, maybe without the "Mid Boost" (useless IMO) and without reverb.
I think it would be great too, but with the Origin's power scaling methods, and the ability to run alternative power tubes with a user friendly biasing system.
I would be all about that.
Another idea I thought of in the vein of a Vintage Modern re-issue as sorts that might be cool is a 1987vm version of the 1987x.
It would have the VM preamp more or less but not be foot switchable between HDR and LDR, and have four inputs instead of the detail and body knobs. Using a small patch cable to jump channels like back in the day is no problem. Seven knobs on the control panel but the PPIMV would be pull defeat. Three switches: Mains, Standby , and power level (as in the Origin PS). Otherwise, it would be just like a 1987x in looks. And a user friendly biasing system that could run a variety of tube types out back. Oh, and a purple tolex and pilot light option, of course.
Wow, that's enough changes to make it a different amp....a lot like this one:
I'm happy with this ol hoss just like it is.
Why not buy a Vintage Modern????
So many vintage moderns virtually being given away in the uk , it's crazy . I don't think a reissue or update would sell .
Keep talkin' like this. It'll help make our favorite amp the classic it should be!
Great amps, and I liked the midboost. They didn't sell originally, so a reissue wouldn't make sense.
One of the best tones from a Marshall in the last 30 years, IMHO.
Tell you what , the reason the VM didn't sell and is still frowned upon is because of the word ' modern ' . No self respecting Marshall nut is going to buy one just because of that one little word . In the words of my favourite Metallica tune , sad but true .
Regarding selling, now that the Origin is out, I doubt people will be buying any expensive Marshall (JVM, 1987x, JCM 800 etc).
I like uk made marshalls.....
Nobody's gonna stop buying the classics and reissues.
I doubt the Origin will dent that segment of the market at all.
Many are not impressed by the Origin (myself included). I would choose any of those amps over the Origin, as a matter of fact, I did (bought my 2203x after the Origin was released).
Or the term vintage may have turned off another market segment. I followed this amp from the beginning and as much as we love it here, there is a lot of hate for out there among the modern crowd. (not necessarily my personal opinion):
* "It sounds great at too loud of volume but not so great at moderate volumes." Regardless if one agrees with that or not this is a known characteristic of a post PI master volume. They are fine in a pro gigging amp though.
* Many were confused by the detail and body controls which have profound effect on the voice of this amp. And that is why I think an old school four holer architecture is better for this amp design.
*The footswitchable to LDR feature lead many to think of it a channel switcher or a solo boost feature. And it doesn't work for that.
*I love KT66s but they are not for everybody.
* The amp is great for guitar volume riders, but there is a whole generation or two that grew up stomping on footswitches to change tones.
The probles with the Vintage Modern not selling are mainly due to:
1) It is not your typical Marshall to dial in......takes some work to get what you want.
2) Most assume it is a channel switcher due to the pedal....they should not have given us a pedal for this amp!
3) And it was Purple...
Mine's a black one. It's the Dogs Bollocks!
Mines black but purple is cool!
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