Another combo vs amp/head question...

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  1. giblesp

    giblesp New Member

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    So I've got my eyes on either the JVM combo or head.
    50 watts is all I'll need, if I go with the head it'll be with a 2 by 12 can for now.

    The major attraction of the combo is the price, I also do like the look. The fact that it can be angled is a huge bonus.

    The head obviously looks great, and I do have the option of connecting to a 4 by 12 should I ever need. I've owned a TSL 60 watt head in the past and loved it.

    Is there anything else I'm missing here? I do go into medium/high gain; Pumpkins, Nirvana etc. as well as post punk; Police, Joy Division. Clean tones are also very important, though I have no doubt both options can deliver here.

    I'm wondering if there would be any advantage with the head when it comes to high gain.

    I'll be down the shop to try them when I can, if anyone has long term experience with both options, be great to hear.

    Currently own a DSL 401, need a bit more projection and less 'boxiness,' in my sound.
     
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    scott-colorado2016 Active Member

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    I believe the JVM 50 watt combo is smaller than the head version. It's also only 2 channels, right? Should have more gain than the DSL for sure. Give it a listen and see, can't hurt.
     
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    Kim Lucky Day Well-Known Member

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    Portability could be a factor. But I would say if you get the combo, you can always hook up to a separate cabinet.
     
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    giblesp New Member

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    The gain on the DSL is fine for me, just sounds a it boxy which is possible due to it being a 1 by 12.

    Yes, have to try first. What I'm trying to determine is if others have had the combo for a while, and then veered towards a head/cab.
     
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    What was your question?:applause::headbanger:
     
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    John BNY Well-Known Member Premium Member

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    I had a JVM210 head that I ran through a 1960a cab. I subsequently acquired a JVM205 combo, which is a 50 watt 2x12 combo. They sounded pretty much the same, and I prefer the convenience of a combo for gigging, so I sold the head and cabinet. The JVM 2 series is a two channel amp, but it really is a six channel, because each channel has three modes, and you can store all three modes if you get the six button footswitch. If you are a gigging musician, I couldn't think of a more versatile amp.
     
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    giblesp New Member

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    The 205 combo is what I've got my eye on.

    What style of music are you playing? Do you go into the heavier end of rock? (Not Nu metal)
     
  8. giblesp

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    Advantage of a head of course, would be the option of swapping cabs....

    Decisions, decisions.
     
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  10. Jethro Rocker

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    You mentioned if you got the head you woild get a 2x12 with it. Just get the combo then. Can always add the combo to a 2x12 or 4x12. That way it's one trip carry. Heavy but as you said can angle it as well.
    The JVM series will do heavy hard n metal.
     
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    Jethro Rocker Well-Known Member Premium Member

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    Except the JVM410H. :D
    Unless you mean combo. Just bustin ya.
     
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    2 channels with 3 different voicing for each for a total of 6. If one can’t find a like able tone out of 6 channels essentially we got problems haha.
     
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    I do it like this[​IMG]
     
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    The combos think they are heads
    Cheers
     
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    Jethro Rocker Well-Known Member Premium Member

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    Yes but there's a caveat. You can find "a" tone to be sure. If you like really ballsy old metal tones as a base, then ch 1 does not have enough gain meaning - 6 channels but only channel 2 and the 2nd MV are really useful. Or you run an OD on ch 1 which seems really silly given a "6 channel" amp.
    I see now you play metal through a 210. Do you use channel 1 without an OD?
    So I personally opted for the 410. More than I need and can run ch 2 in red mode as a boosted 800 plus ch 3 and use 4 dor solos. Not to say it won't work for many people, not saying that. Just that the way it's set up the 2 channels may not work for all.
     
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    I use channel one green for clean obviously, orange never ever use, red stuff like AC/DC rarely. For metal I use channel 2 orange with MV at noon and gain at noon. I dont use any O.D pedals on a JVM, not needed and I thought it actually sounded like shit with a ts9. Noise suppressor and a 10 band eq that’s all a JVM really needs for metal. But the channels on the 210 differ from the 410. Like my clean/crunch I’m calling channel 1 I guess. Then my OD CHANNEL which is OD 1 or 2 on the 410 I’m not sure, it’s the more American sounding metal tone tho I believe on the 410.
     
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    Jethro Rocker Well-Known Member Premium Member

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    Right so you use ch 2 mostly . Use MV 2 for solos. I get that. But seems wasreful to basically never use ch 1. Thats why I got the 410. I use ch 1 rarely as I rarely play cleanish. Ch 2 sometimes for that 800 tone. Then mostly ch 3 OD orange and ch 4 for solos. Whatever works, the JVMs are crazy amps, man.
     
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    Do all JVM do a good JCM 80s hard rock and hair metal tone? Or just the 4 channel ones?
     
  20. giblesp

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    What I tend to forget is that 50watts through a 2by12 or 4by12 is going to be the same volume.

    Thinking back to the studio, I was happiest with a 4by12. Great alongside an aggressive (mad) drummer, lovely bass and projection. Would never push the volume, just let the amp cruise.

    I could get good volume with a 2by12 or smaller, but wasn't as happy.

    And of course, there's just something about a Marshall head.
     

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