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Discussion in 'Cabinets & Speakers' started by Emtbreid, Aug 19, 2019.

  1. Emtbreid

    Emtbreid Well-Known Member

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    Ah, I figured so, no worries. I had a stand for 5-6 months, and it just didn’t sound great, especially here lately. Put it back on the floor and I’ve got no more muddiness, instant low end definition without mud.
     
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    Stand or no stand, get a cabinet to go with it. Stack it if you want.
     
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    Yes indeed ! Next on my list.
     
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    The G12T-75 may be a love/hate speaker, but it sells and is everywhere. Cheap too compared to the more exotic Celestions.
    Maybe do some research and see what others (in other forums too) are using to compliment the speaker you already have.
    First though you should just give whatever speaker you get in your 112 cab a fair go. This will help give you a baseline of what you want and don't want from an extension speaker. It may be a keeper!
    BTW you haven't said which speaker originally came fitted in your 401. I have heard mention of a wildly differing array of speakers that came fitted from the shop. Mine came with a G12T-100. This is often thought of as the bigger brother to the G12T-75, but purported to have a bigger bass response. I still use it in a VS65R that needs help in the bass department as the EQ is weak.
     
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    It was a “gold back”
     

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    Glad the 65 is working for you!

    The T-75 reminds me of the V30 in that it seems people either love them or hate them. There doesn't seem to be much in between. I grew up in the 80's and the majority of music I liked came out of Marshall cabs loaded with T-75's. Maybe that has something to so with my liking them?

    I agree on both points. I bought my T75 used from a guy selling them out of his 4x12. It was the last one and I think I paid $40 for it and it's UK made. I would have bought it even if it wasn't because that doesn't really matter to me.
     
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    Tilt back works for me and the Twin. Had a black face Super in the late 60s, miss it.
     
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    If that is a pic of your Gold Back (16 Ohm) then it may do as a placeholder in an empty cab until you decide on a keeper. You didn't say why you swapped it out though, so I guess you may have already dismissed it as a viable speaker.
     
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    When I first got the amp it was very muddy sounding to me. I changed preamp valves first.... this helped a bit. I then changed the speaker to the 65, better still. I wouldn’t 100% dis punt it, I do still have it for a spare if nothing else. I’ll have to grab it and get the T number off of it.... the photo is not my exact speaker but the one I pulled out is just like that ...

    One of the biggest things I’d seen about the 401 prior to buying it was how bad the stock gold back speaker was. To me it sounded muddy. Lots of variables have changed since I got the amp. In a 1x12 cab along with the 65, who knows?
     
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    https://photos.app.goo.gl/TwksNWtQpdEXDti86

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/pQ31XqcToga5pZMPA

    These are photos I took of my speaker. I can’t upload straight to here for some reason, it’s telling me they’re too large.
     
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    Hmm, that’s interesting. Makes sense though. Equipped with the stock speaker and preamp valves OD2 sounded incredibly muddy if I recall correctly, but I did keep it. I’ll give it another shot at some point.
     
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    Supposed to be higher wattage version of the G12T-75 but with bigger bass response. That might be why it works so well in the VS65R. Helps put the bass back into open back combos, and the bass EQ on the 65R does nothing past 12 O'clock! This speaker brings the bass up to an acceptable level without allowing the 65R to get muddy.
     
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    The 65 I have had pretty decent bass. I find myself turning it down some just because it’s so high. Also been hearing a bit of muddiness, both on the stand as before and a bit now on the floor. I’m using OD2 gain set low, about 3 maybe, master and channel volumes matched at 2-3, and a tube screamer low gain high level mid tone. Bass set to 3, mids and highs anywhere from 5-7.
     
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    Here’s what I mean :

     
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    my x pattern (2).jpg fav cab for hard rock..
     
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    That sounded good to me Brian.

    One thing that helped with mud for me was dropping the pickup 1mm or so.
     
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    Thanks! Yeah, I actually raised the bridge a bit. It’s an Epi Les Paul but it’s got super hot Gibson Super ‘57 in the bridge and classic ‘57 in the neck. Neck pup is all the way down to the ring, I’ll have to look at the other one ....
     

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