Advice on haze 40 verses origin verses dsl

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  1. tomykoz

    tomykoz Active Member

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    I’m 64...probably will never play out again but the hope is always there....that being said I’m trying to find an easy to carry gig rig.....I have owned many haze 40 amps in the past and to me they sounded better than the dsl line and they always worked and sounded great after the bugs were worked out electronically ....but before I buy another I was curious if the origin 50 or Dsl20hr and 2x12 cab and pedalboard would sound better?....I love the new dsl40cr combo but it’s too heavy for me to haul around....any veteran guitarists out there with advice on a cheap gigable versatile classic rock/blues lightWeight amp
     
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    Lots of love around for the Origin 20.
    BP
     
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    Kinkless Tetrode Well-Known Member

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    Reports are that the Origins work great with pedals.
     
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    Im playing country/rock with one of my bands. Im able to get over the drums on the 5 watt setting on my Origin 20h with a 1x12. At home I use the 1/2 watt setting. Amp is set so that it is right on the edge of distortion so if you really thwack the strings it overdrives. I use a boost and then overdrive to push it into AC/DC like overdrive and then full distortion. I dont like the built in boost its flubby sounding to me.
     
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    LPMarshall hack Well-Known Member

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    Mitch...this thread needs you!!!!
     
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    renips Well-Known Member

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    I have had a HAZE 40C for 11 years. Great compact design. I changed out the speaker and tubes and it really is a good amp to take to practice or gig. It takes pedals very well also.
     
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    If you can live without an effects loop, the Haze 15 would be a great and cheap solution. They can be had for $250 used and sound good stock but with a couple of component swaps, sound great. Through a 1x12 with a G12H-30 it sounds huge. Well maybe not huge but definitely bigger than the little stack looks. Go less efficient with the speaker like a V30 and it's lighter and less loud but will still hang easily in a full loud band situation. I find these amps sound more vintage than the dsls. To my ears they can sound plexi-ish or early mv-ish. A good OD in front and you can cover a lot of ground. And again, $250.
     
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    Origin 50H boost at 7
    Presence 10 bass 5. mids 8
    Treble 8 tilt at 5-6, SD1 set as a clean boost, FX send into instrument in on the clean channel of a 3210 lead 100 mosfet, Origin in full 50 watt power volume at 4-5 loud as hell.
    Cheers to no flub, mud of any kind.
    Mitch
     
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    Dsl40c’s on the clean channel, with a Vox Tone Lab, using delay, tube overdrive, and 68 UK amp sim, Gibson LP Traditional
    TV volume
     
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    Dsl40c’s, MXR 10 band eq,
    Ultra channel 1 gain at 4-5
    Presence 6 bass 5, treble and mids at 7 resonance 5
    Cheers Mitch
     
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    2 Origin 50H’s MXR 10 band eq
    Boost on both amps at 7
    Presence 10 mids 8, treble 8, bass 5, tilt 6, no pedals,
    Gibson LP Traditional.
    Cheers
    Mitch
     
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    Mitchell Pearrow Well-Known Member

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    I think these are decent examples of the tones that I use.
    Cheers
     
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    Mitchell Pearrow Well-Known Member

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    On it brother I posted a number of clips to give a reference.
    Thanks
     
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    Mitchell Pearrow Well-Known Member

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    I have zero experience with the haze , but I do have some experience with the Origin’s and the Dsl40c’s, I posted a couple of clips in here. Thanks
    Mitch
     
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    ricksdisconnected Well-Known Member

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    of all the marshalls made ever, i think the haze is talked about the least. i dont know why though.
     
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    Great tone Mitch!
     
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    Thanks brother I appreciate you taking the time to check out my clips ...
     
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    I hate to say this here as I’m a Marshall/Fender tweed kinda guy, but, the Fender Deluxe reissue might suit your needs unless you play with a very loud drummer.
     
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    Never touched a Haze. Been around Super Leads and JCM800’s since I was a kid. My current amp is a DSL20HR and 2x12 and I am not sure I’d need a different amp in today’s world. This amp gets plenty close enough to multiple different Marshall amp tones that I am extremely happy with it as my main amp. The Origin 20 is a nice amp but I just find the DSL20HR has more versatility.
     
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    Kinkless Tetrode Well-Known Member

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    The dirt channel is not bright like an 800, but dark, and it is not high gain. It did not have much appeal to the modern hard rock/metal crowd. The clean channel has a plexi preamp signal path, though, and takes pedals well. The channels are starkly different in voicing.

    The series II DSL that replaced it in the line up have starkly different sounding channels too, but they also have a very high gain mode and are voiced bright.
     

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