Advice needed and welcomed

Discussion in 'Marshall Amps' started by bluesman50, Jun 26, 2014.

  1. bluesman50

    bluesman50 New Member

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    I seem to be torn between the JVM210 and a Vintage Modern 100
    watt head-Since I'm not a pro and play only at home, it may not be
    that big a deal, but I like HOT blues, rock and some metal-

    My cabs are a Marshall 1960 lead with UK Celestions and another 1960
    Vintage with UK's-They are old enough not to have the Chinese Celestions-

    I have a JMD1 100 watt head, and it sounds pretty dad gum good to me, but I want a real UK Marshall-Just had my 64th birthday, so I'm going to
    treat myself-

    Any thoughts???
     
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    crossroadsnyc Senior Moderator Staff Member

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    Vintage Modern by a country mile :yesway:
     
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    33KHD Well-Known Member

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    Yup...what Cross said.

    For price, tone and house friendly volume, you can't beat a VM. I had a VM, sold it, bought a JMD and went back to the VM. At it's essence, it's a simple amp. Having said that the detail and body controls will take a bit of getting used to but in the end, and given a bit of time, I bet you'll be happy with it.

    And welcome to the forum!
     
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    SwampThing New Member

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    If you like HOT blues Sir the Vintage modern is your Amp.
     
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    33KHD Well-Known Member

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    We need Ozzk. He'll post the ultimate VM vid and convince you for sure!
     
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    MonstersOfTheMidway Well-Known Member

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    Marshall_Watts87 New Member

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    JVM. the JVM will do hot blues, rock and metal. it would sound amazing through UK celestions
     
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    anitoli Well-Known Member

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    I am going to go off course and NOT say 6100, but I will say VM. :yesway:
     
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    drgordonfreeman Well-Known Member

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    Absolutely. The crunch channel can do a nice grainy to red hot blues sound.

    Unless you truly have zero use for more gain, then go VM. However, it never hurts to have the option for more.
     
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  10. bluesman50

    bluesman50 New Member

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    Thanks guys-You've been a great help to me-
    Although I don't really know the difference between the
    JVM210H and the Vintage Modern except they're both 100 watts-

    I have a Genz Benz el Diablo that sounds pretty good (to me), but
    I want a UK Marshall to go with the cabs-The JMD1 sounds pretty good, too-

    I like this forum and the friendly folks here-I think I'll stay!
     
  11. 33KHD

    33KHD Well-Known Member

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    Features and channels aside...

    JVM = high gain
    VM = classic gain
     
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    pedecamp Well-Known Member

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    I think the JVM is more of a "do all" amp than the VM. For what you need you should also consider the DSL, the DSL line has several low watt versions if you dont really need 50 or 100 watts for home.
     
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    sullimd Well-Known Member

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    Whats up with the VM threads lately? Seems like I've typed this same response like 10 times in the last day:

    I owned 2 VM's. I wanted to love it so much that I bought a second one AFTER I sold the first one. I know what the VM players say about my next comment - but I just couldn't get a sound I was happy with. Didn't like that the two channels aren't footswitchable and the volumes are so mismatched. One day I'd get a sound I was semi-happy with, turn it on the next day and say "What was I thinking?! That sounds horrible!" Problem with the VM is its a one-trick pony. If you're tone is within that one-trick, then you're golden. If not, you got nowhere to go.

    Do the JVM. You'll have WAAYYY more flexibility. Like other JVM proponents have said, you can do hot blues all day long on several channels/modes on the JVM. You can do clean to Meshuggah (now, go rock some Meshuggah for your 64th birthday).

    Happy Birthday!
     
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    sullimd Well-Known Member

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    Hey since you have the JMD (as do I), here's a reference point for you:

    A Vintage Modern is like preamps 5 & 8. Thats the vibe of the VM.

    A JVM is preamps 10 & 16. Literally... preamps 10 & 16 are modeled after the JVM crunch/red and OD1/orange channels.
     
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    The Ozzk Well-Known Member

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    I'm sorry guys! late to the party... I was camping out in SW Saskatchewan :yesway::applause:

    Here are 2 VM tones you have to hear.
    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-g7xaVa4qI]Unchained by Van Halen Guitar Cover - Most Accurate Version on Youtube - YouTube[/ame]
    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cpytcgL31E]Guitar Center Sessions: Slash-Shreddin' - YouTube[/ame]

    :D
     
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    crossroadsnyc Senior Moderator Staff Member

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    The VM does not have two channels; it's a single channel amp with two dynamic ranges, which are not intended to be foot switchable on the fly as you might expect with a multi-channel amp / solo boost / etc. As for being a one trick pony, I'd have to disagree, as it'll take you through basically three decades of classic Marshall tones (60's-80's). Now, it might not be the best amp for someone who's looking for a modern Marshall sound, but someone's wheelhouse is the 60's-80's, it should be an exceptionally good fit.
     
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    I NEED ONE.
     
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    crossroadsnyc Senior Moderator Staff Member

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    From the looks of it, you need two :slash:
     
  19. slash38

    slash38 Active Member

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    LOL! One will do for now!
     
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    slash38 Active Member

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    Lately...posts about VM's have been coming from the Marshall forum in the last couple of days, including myself. Maybe someone from m Marshall will see all these posts, bring it back to the big cheese at Marshall and they'll make more...but thats just me dreaming:wave:
     

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