Discussion in 'The Backstage' started by PU239, Feb 11, 2018.
Rumor even has it that Gary Cherone was once spotted riding a Ritz® Cracker.
He's got tits..Gary's got tits on a ritz..
Guys, this is serious. Gary on a cracker? Come on. Gary Cherone is not fodder for your childish amusement. He's the greatest of all the van halens. Let's show him some respect.
That actually looks more like Marty Friedman, but I know for a fact it was Gary on that Ritz Cracker.
What still irks many is that the EVH style guitar player was obliviated by this guy playing budget guitars through ghetto setups.
What many in my generation felt:
He struggles like "us".
He doesn't play because he can... he plays because he needs to.
He's singing about us... the real "us"
He is "us".
The collective blood pressure in here just skyrocketed.
Rightly so. Rock sucked by the time Kurt came around.
I'm curious if time will be as kind to Eddie. I know he's popular with guitar players, primarily guitar players of a certain age-group, but I'm not so sure he's been elevated to demigod status with the general public quite like Hendrix, Page, Kurt etc. I know a blood vessel just popped in some of you by reading that, but I think the silliness of Van Halen the band is going to hurt his legacy in the long run. People that take "art" in music seriously don't consider "Hot for Teacher" art. Sabbath was art... EVH was a party.
This, this, this, this, so much this ^^^^^^^^^^^^
True and that first Nirvana album was similar in influence to the first VH album. It changed everything and similarly it’s influence faded.
Imagine if Eddie had been a founding member of King Crimson or some shit... we'd be talking greatest of all time.
I had to google that... the first result was an article on hypertension. f'in LOL.
(sorry Cross, I know this annoys the hell out of you. I still like Eddie for the record)
To be honest, the "metal" scene didn't stand a chance; they couldn't see it coming.
You see, at the time the established rock elite was taking music away from their audience. So far away that it was unobtainable and disconnected.
In fact, history was being made in sweaty little clubs. To the rock elite, these were a bunch of little brats crying for attention. They failed to see that Cobain didn't perform for the audience; he didn't perform. He was the audience.
All in all though, EVH did change the way many of us play guitar. Eruption really slayed me as a dumb 15 year old.
We are in an interesting (in a bad way) time at the moment. EDM is huge, as is whatever iteration of hip hop (I believe it’s “gurgle” ala 2chains/future). There always has been instrumental music (rock, etc.) but the music scene now is looking very similar to pre-grunge then... meaningless and vapid consciousness in a long-stale scene.
The scene isn’t dead and who knows how long it remains, but it is going nowhere. The thing about the past is that there was a commonality between Cobain, Corrigan, Page, Slash, Dee Dee, Mustaine and CC Deville, among many other players: they played an instrument (however well/terribly) and they had some sort of respect/incorporation for rock, no matter how they bucked the trend.
One can say that rock being dead is not bad, etc. but part of why new sucks imo (just like grunge sucked then, save for some excellent standouts) is musical talent and ability. If the genre has none or needs none the scene collapses into shit. The issue now will be what will the kids do in 15-20 years to buck the current bullshit. I’d love to think it would be a return to rock/instrumental music, but there are no guarantees.
I just don't know if it's ever coming back... not like we experienced anyway. We all have our preferred eras and bicker back 'n forth over whose was better (the 90s, duh), but we all had a few things in common - Radio/MTV was relevant, there was NO internet/social media and rap/hip-hop was in its infancy. There's just too many options for the youth now to ever rally around a specific band or guitar player like we did. I think that ship has sailed.
Oh and you said Mustain, but I know you really meant Hetfield so we'll let it slide
Oh, hell no. Talk about derailment potential... That’s a can of worms we do not want to open here!
Yes, no, maybe. There is not a millenial who does not know who Bassnectar is in a sea of assholes who can plug into a mac, drum up some shitty beats with one line of lyrics droning on forever and throw hands up like they are actually doing something. If they can be the voice of a generation (yikes), then the platform exists for a band to do the same...it merely requires a hospitable scene and the inspiration/interest of the youth.
And who the hell is this Van Halen? You guys mean Daddy Longlegs?
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