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Old 08-17-2010, 11:54 AM   #1
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Thumbs up JCM900's 21 Years of Ass Kicking!

I played a friends 4100; 20 years ago, and never forgot about it. Because of that I finally bought one of my own. The 900's never seem to receive the respect they deserve. They are tone monsters, in my opinion, and others will eventually figure out their greatness and seek out one also. So I dedicate this thread to all the 900's. (Thoughts and Experiences)
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Old 08-17-2010, 12:04 PM   #2
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I played a friends 4100; 20 years ago, and never forgot about it. Because of that I finally bought one of my own. The 900's never seem to receive the respect they deserve. They are tone monsters, in my opinion, and others will eventually figure out their greatness and seek out one also. So I dedicate this thread to all the 900's. (Thoughts and Experiences)
I'm going to record mine this morning HQ so people can hear what a JCM900 can really sound like when set up properly. I'll give the details when finished but I'm going to record a new song I've been working on, so gimme a day or two to post.
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I love the last one you posted Jeff........ it sounds beautiful.
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A few months ago I sold my 4500 that had 5881's. When cranked this thing sounded awesome! the overtones are there.
There was only one thing that I felt was not great, and that was the clean channel. It reminded me of my Valvestate amp a little.

But I will buy another, probably the 4100. These amps are surprisingly quiet when cranked up. Probably the quietest cranked Marshall I've heard.
For Randy Rhoads type technique, these amps love that attack.

Do I regret selling mine? yes

Congrats Michael, I know with your style of playing that amp is screaming.
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The more you guys keep posting about how wonderful the 900s are, the more people will jack up the prices of them.

I'm still trying to decide if I should keep the 6550s in my MkIII or convert it back to EL34s.
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Old 08-17-2010, 12:24 PM   #6
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A few months ago I sold my 4500 that had 5881's. When cranked this thing sounded awesome! the overtones are there.
There was only one thing that I felt was not great, and that was the clean channel. It reminded me of my Valvestate amp a little.

But I will buy another, probably the 4100. These amps are surprisingly quiet when cranked up. Probably the quietest cranked Marshall I've heard.
For Randy Rhoads type technique, these amps love that attack.

Do I regret selling mine? yes

Congrats Michael, I know with your style of playing that amp is screaming.
I love playing Randy Rhoads with my 4100. I played S.A.T.O with my band the other night and it sounded great with nothing in front of the amp.
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re: JCM900's 21 Years of Ass Kicking!

Had mine for 4 months now and loving it massive. I'm still a bit of virgin though because I've never found an area big enough to get the main volume past 6.

Looking at attenuators as we speak. Particularly the discontinued Marshall Power Break. A little expensive but I suppose you only buy one once.

Does anyone have any experience of 900's and attenuators?

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re: JCM900's 21 Years of Ass Kicking!

As hybrid amps go, the 900 DR's seem to be the most accepted by tube people. In fact, Marshall guys consider it a tube amp in spite of the "preamp" tubes not really being in the tone path. I've posted before that the month I played a 900 in the band I was underwhelmed, but I conceed it may not have been biased, had the right tubes, etc.

That being said, it has a cutting sound that might have suited some people but I found a little harsh. At the time, I had no idea about Marshalls at all, so I didn't have any preconcieved thoughts. In fact, my reaction was, "What's so great about Marshalls?"

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The more you guys keep posting about how wonderful the 900s are, the more people will jack up the prices of them.

I'm still trying to decide if I should keep the 6550s in my MkIII or convert it back to EL34s.
Don't you know we have set up something to make people want JCM900's? Actually they are totally crap. But we are making all the people want them so they sell their 800's, JVM, etc. for very cheap prices. So we can buy a REAL Marshall.... But don't tell it further!
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Don't you know we have set up something to make people want JCM900's? Actually they are totally crap. But we are making all the people want them so they sell their 800's, JVM, etc. for very cheap prices. So we can buy a REAL Marshall.... But don't tell it further!
Well save your money up and maybe you can buy a Marshall one day. The one that you think is the best.
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Don't you know we have set up something to make people want JCM900's? Actually they are totally crap. But we are making all the people want them so they sell their 800's, JVM, etc. for very cheap prices. So we can buy a REAL Marshall.... But don't tell it further!
Now point me to that sucker who wants to trade that old dull worn out looking plexi and a whole lot of cash for my much nicer looking 900.
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re: JCM900's 21 Years of Ass Kicking!

Here ya go, a HQ recording of my head.

No effects AT ALL in front of the head. Just Guitar, Cord, Head, Cab. No mastering, No pre or post EQ. The only thing that has any EQ on it is the drums.

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As usual, BONE crushing tone EL Jeffe....awesome
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Here ya go, a HQ recording of my head.

No effects AT ALL in front of the head. Just Guitar, Cord, Head, Cab. No mastering, No pre or post EQ. The only thing that has any EQ on it is the drums.

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Ass kicking and thats what I'm talking about (JCM900) Beautiful
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I bought my first JCM 900 in 1990. It was a 2500, wish I still had it. But I always find room for the 4100 and 2100 in the studio. Again, very different circuit and EQ spectrum but undeniably Marshall. My youngest son Eric gets a killer Jerry Cantrell tone out of his 1990 4100 and G&L guitars. I don't think Jerry used 4100's but maybe it's just Eric's hands.

Cheers to the 900 Series.

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Had mine for 4 months now and loving it massive. I'm still a bit of virgin though because I've never found an area big enough to get the main volume past 6.

Looking at attenuators as we speak. Particularly the discontinued Marshall Power Break. A little expensive but I suppose you only buy one once.

Does anyone have any experience of 900's and attenuators?

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Yep, I run my 4100 thru the PB and with the vol maxed on both channels it sounds awesome.....completely different once you get the master over 8
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I've got a soft spot for the 900 too. I plan on one each of the three 100 watt head versions to reside in my arsenal.
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Yep, I run my 4100 thru the PB and with the vol maxed on both channels it sounds awesome.....completely different once you get the master over 8
Thats the magic word. Take it past 8 and youre into a whole new world bubbling blistering harmonics. Thats where the power tubes must kick in.

BTW what are the differences in sound, punch, warmth etc. comparing 50 and 100 watt version (4500 and 4100). Is the 50 watt identical in sound to the 100, just not as much headroom?
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Played a Dual verb back in the 90's on the road. It was bullet proof reliable and I got solid tones every night.
I now own a 1990 JCM 900 2501 1/12 combo. I prefer the tones of the Dual Masters to the Dual Reverbs and in particular LOVE the SLX!!
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Thats the magic word. Take it past 8 and youre into a whole new world bubbling blistering harmonics. Thats where the power tubes must kick in.

BTW what are the differences in sound, punch, warmth etc. comparing 50 and 100 watt version (4500 and 4100). Is the 50 watt identical in sound to the 100, just not as much headroom?
Yep, go past 8 and channel A sounds awesome. Ch B is then like having a boost pedal (sd1 or tube screamer) kicked in.
Completely different to the sound you get without an attenuator at say 4-5 on the master. Just saturated craziness and sustain for a very long time.

I hace never tried a 50watt model but would imagine the same outcome at those levels.

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When I'm out giging, I use a 4100. It growls like a lion, when you want it to. In the clean channel, you get some of the best bluesy tones you ever heard, when that thing is cranked up, with a slight breakup, that will bring you to your knees. I love that thing.
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I use a SL-X for rehearsals every week and I think it's a very easy to set up and consistently great sounding amp. Push the master and dim the dual pre-amp controls a bit!
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Yep, go past 8 and channel A sounds awesome. Ch B is then like having a boost pedal (sd1 or tube screamer) kicked in.
Completely different to the sound you get without an attenuator at say 4-5 on the master. Just saturated craziness and sustain for a very long time.

I hace never tried a 50watt model but would imagine the same outcome at those levels.

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Definitely.
Channel A completely dimed with the mids cranked is just a great sound, so natural, and it really just roars.
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I seen a SL-X for sale a few months ago and he was asking $666.00 for it I think because its a beast(tons of gain on tap)I should of grabed it
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I seen a SL-X for sale a few months ago and he was asking $666.00 for it I think because its a beast(tons of gain on tap)I should of grabed it
Satanic pricing! LOL

That's a good price but you can find them here around Chicago also around $600 if you keep an eye out. I've seen ask prices as high as $800+ as well. If you regret not getting it, I bet you'll find another in that area.

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i have the mkiii 2500 50 watt. i would recomend to keep with the stock, which is el34', to get the mostgain and awesomeness haha
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aww i have the 2500, a 1995 model made in december, possibly the last one ever made xD
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