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Unread 06-02-2009, 06:16 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Laney Amps

I've heard they're better then Marshalls. Anyone have both brands and can give a side by side comparisson? I've been looking at the VHR-100 head just in case my TSL has pooped out on me completely.
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Unread 06-08-2009, 12:30 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Laney Amps

Laney's and Marshalls are two different animals. There are fans and foes of both.

Laney's get their distortion from preamp tubes, Marshalls...at least newer ones get their distortion from diode clipping (anyone else chime in here)

I own two Laneys...one head and one combo. There good sounding amps but do NOT have the "British" tone that everyone attributes to Marshall, and in some cases Orange too. I should correct that to say...newer Laneys don't. My Laneys' sound good, but tons of distortion but a lack of OOMPH like a cranked Marshall. They have more meat than bone...where Marshall's have a solid 'bone' to the meat too.

Make sense? The comparison I make is ...think Michael Schenker for Marshall and Paul Gilbert for Laney...although he's now using Vintage Moderns
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Whenever I think of Laney, I think of Tony Iommi ... that classic Sabbath sound. I think he uses a treble booster w/his as well.
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Re: Laney Amps

The old Supergroup, Klipp and Pro Tube series amps are good amps. The AOR model of the Pro Tube amps were touted as a "poor man's Marshall", but having owned one I really didn't think it was that close to a Marshall. Ace Frehley used them for awhile, and Warren Demartini from Ratt (Round and Round was a good example of a Laney AOR tone). They definitely had a high-gain British flavor, but you have to crank them to get it and they are LOUD. IMHO they sound thin at lower volumes and an attenuator doesn't help much. I don't recall any older Laney using clipping diodes. I've not used the VHR series. If you want to give Laney a try, I'd recommend picking up an AOR Pro Tube 50 or 100 - they can be had for a few hundred dollars on eBay fairly regularly. Crossroadsnyc is right, too. You can dial in "War Pigs" tone with your eyes closed with one of these.
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Mikael Akerfeld from Opeth uses Laney amps. I guess from the nature of their music that he needed something that could cope with the levels of distortion needed for death metal as well as the proggy cleaner parts.
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Hey all,

I owned a GH100TI for about a month. I played it through 1936 cab which at time had some crappy speakers and I didn't realize until after I had sold the Laney. But it was extremely loud and aggressive sounding great sustain. I don't think it got a fair shake from my end because of the crappy speakers in the 2x12" cab. I almost wished I would have kept it longer and gave it a better run through.

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Hi,

I just tried that one this little babe yesterday and it was really goog warm tone, I really loved it!

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Mikael Akerfeld from Opeth uses Laney amps. I guess from the nature of their music that he needed something that could cope with the levels of distortion needed for death metal as well as the proggy cleaner parts.
opeth don't use a lot of distortion, only in their 1st albums. they use less distortion than any other metal guitarist that i know of (freak kitchen, paul gilbert etc)
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Laney's get their distortion from preamp tubes, Marshalls...at least newer ones get their distortion from diode clipping (anyone else chime in here)
That is a very uninformed statement. Only few specific models have had diode clipping circuits for added gain. Again, this means added gain, plenty of distortion was still coming from the preamp section. This was only found in few of the all tube models but that's another thread...
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Re: Laney Amps

I have a Laney GH100L. If I had to compare it to a Marshall I would say it's quite similar to a JCM900 SL-X. The drive stages are pretty close only the Laney has a switch to defeat the last gain stage and when that switch is off it sounds closer to an 800. That last gain stage also has a separate knob for adjustment which is pretty cool. All in all, it's not a Marshall so it's hard to compare granny smith to red apples. They're both apples but very different. I actually traded my DSL100 to get this amp, and for what it's worth, in the description Marshall gives of the DSL they compare it to a plexi, a hot-rodded 800 and some other nonsense. This Laney sounds more like those classic Marshalls than their own DSL which is why I got rid of it.

The EQ section in Laney's are very different as well. The mid range is not as pronounced and there can be a lot of harshness in the treble section. A lot of people complain of too much brightness in Marshalls but it's never hurt me. I'd have to say they aren't bad amplifiers in the least. The only reason they're not worth as much is because it says "Laney" on the front and not "Marshall".

Personally I still prefer Marshall amps but I don't have anything bad to say about Laney either. Maybe that their head cabinets are ugly...

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Laney's and Marshalls are two different animals. There are fans and foes of both.

I own two Laneys...one head and one combo. There good sounding amps but do NOT have the "British" tone that everyone attributes to Marshall, and in some cases Orange too. I should correct that to say...newer Laneys don't. My Laneys' sound good, but tons of distortion but a lack of OOMPH like a cranked Marshall. They have more meat than bone...where Marshall's have a solid 'bone' to the meat too.
Thats funny you say that because I have owned both marshals, and 3 Laney's (GH100L, VC50, and a series 1 AOR which I gutted) and those three amps in question are exactly almost to the T circuitry wise, a JCM800 2203/4with a switchable added gain stage. and sound almost identical to my beloved stolen 2203, and all the good 2203/4's I have ever played. with the added gainstage they resemble those Lee jackson Ampegs somewhat. The biggest difference is that Laney uses pretty good Iron, although the laminate stacks, and core size of the OT's look almost identical to most 100W 70's and 80's marshalls. The 70's Laney's used Massive Partridges that you find in Hiwatts, they are worth the price for the transformers alone!

I would say gain wise with the drive activated, they about just as much drive as a 5150, but it's less compressed and tighter.


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Make sense? The comparison I make is ...think Michael Schenker for Marshall and Paul Gilbert for Laney...although he's now using Vintage Moderns
Paul is an example of somebody whose tone keeps on getting worse and worse recently! his VM sound is like a cheap first generation transistor fuzz box. I think my hand built amps sound closer to his older sound than those VM's do
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with the added gainstage they resemble those Lee jackson Ampegs somewhat.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCvSAOdyH7w
Do you remember the Jackson brand amps that Lee made? I haven't owned one but they are supposed to be exactly the same amp as a Laney AOR. AFAIK he played a big part in designing the AOR series. The Jacksons even have that same ugly tolex that the Laneys used. I wouldn't doubt that some of that design carried over to the Ampegs.
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Re: Laney Amps

Funny this thread popped back up... I stumbled across a guy on cragslist who bought a brand new-ish Laney 4x12 cab for the speakers. He's selling the unloaded cab to me along with an unloaded peavey cab for $75 bucks! FOR THE PAIR OF THEM!
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unloaded peavey cab for $75 bucks? I think you will love the peavey cabs, I have had several, loaded with celestions, I think they sound bigger and chunkier than my 1960 cabs.

To me, my Laney G50L sounds absolutely wicked for 7 string rhythm work but lacks a little punch in the lead sound. The Laney is more of a cleaner distortion, not as ratty as Marshall gain IMO, but really nice nonetheless.
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Do you remember the Jackson brand amps that Lee made? I haven't owned one but they are supposed to be exactly the same amp as a Laney AOR. AFAIK he played a big part in designing the AOR series. The Jacksons even have that same ugly tolex that the Laneys used. I wouldn't doubt that some of that design carried over to the Ampegs.
I didn't know he had anything to do with Jackson. I know he Worked for SLME (Crate, ampeg) after both of his companies bit the dust. He designed the VL series for ampeg, and the crate stealth. I know also the defunct Rhino amps had contacted him about designing one for them before they flopped. He really didn't have much to do with Laney though AFAIK.
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I used to be on one of the Laney forums and I remember discussing this. I went back and dug a bit and apparently the Jackson amp was designed by Lee Jackson and made by Laney. I didn't remember that Laney made it, but it came out around the same time as the AOR series so it all fits.

I worked for a Crate/Ampeg dealer at the time and me and a friend got sent up there to a seminar (AKA excuse to get drunk for 3 days). We ran into Lee during a tour of the factory, carrying a handful of tubes around. About half of the seminar was about the VL series, and the other half was how to get a decent sound out of the Stealth, which was impossible. I ended up buying a VL502 half stack after that trip, so at least I paid for my beer.
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I used to be on one of the Laney forums and I remember discussing this. I went back and dug a bit and apparently the Jackson amp was designed by Lee Jackson and made by Laney. I didn't remember that Laney made it, but it came out around the same time as the AOR series so it all fits.

I worked for a Crate/Ampeg dealer at the time and me and a friend got sent up there to a seminar (AKA excuse to get drunk for 3 days). We ran into Lee during a tour of the factory, carrying a handful of tubes around. About half of the seminar was about the VL series, and the other half was how to get a decent sound out of the Stealth, which was impossible. I ended up buying a VL502 half stack after that trip, so at least I paid for my beer.
Thats very interesting, kinda does make sense if you looked at the circuitry though...... I know that Laney was distributed in the USA by Ibanez USA (or so i was told by Steve Blucher a few years back. I called the dimarzio tech dept about something unrelated, and talked to him. A very nice guy!) so who knows!

I actually liked the VL series. They have some serious crunch and sustain to them... it's too bad they where kinda poorly made, although not as bad as any modern Marshall
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It could just be the old iron in my AOR, but all of the old Laneys I played were better than the Marshalls I played/owned including my modded TSL. The series II AORs were the last good sounding Laneys IMHO though I did think of picking up a GH50L before my Engl Fireball and the AOR came up.
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It could just be the old iron in my AOR, but all of the old Laneys I played were better than the Marshalls I played/owned including my modded TSL..
The Iron in the Laney's IS really good. Not even worth trying to swap it out! The GH series is good as well, just needs a little minor love. with moderate love there is no stoppin them
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Bump for Ryan... My brotha may be pulling the trigger on a head.
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The trigger has been pulled. Bought an AOR50 Pro Series II today. Should be here in 4-11 days. I'll post my opinion as soon as I form one.
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I played a 50 watt years ago that I was very impressed with. I think it was the AOR series. There was one like new on CL for about 300.00 awhile ago that I would have jumped on except I just bought my DSL 100.
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You really have to crank Laneys to get that great tone. They are loud to begin with. When I had my AOR Series 1 100 watt head, the master volume did absolutely nothing until you got it up to about 2 on the dial, then it was so loud it would have the neighbors pissed off. I had better results with the master on 10 and using the preamp control as the volume and boosting it with a pedal, but it would still rattle nails out of the wall. No doubt they are good sounding amps, but I couldn't justify keeping it. Kinda like having a dog trained to kill and keeping it penned up most of the time.
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I had an aor 100watt head in the 80's. I blew the output tranny and when I went to pick it up from the shop, there were 2 more on deck with the same problem.
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opeth don't use a lot of distortion, only in their 1st albums. they use less distortion than any other metal guitarist that i know of (freak kitchen, paul gilbert etc)
On their 1st album (Orchid) they used 5150s Peavy amps. Saw then on stage
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I have a Laney VC50,JCM900 and had a 76 JMP100 Super Lead. While the Laney is not as nice as the Super Lead,it is a million times better then my JCM900 and unlike the Super Lead it can be used at home.. It has great cleans and drive.Theres a lot of tone options,while the 900 only dose one thing and thats not as good.
Try one if you can or a VH100,which is the same amp with 100 watts in a head..
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I own a GH100L, and I have to say that it is the amp marshall should have developed, as it does Marshall better than Marshall does it now. They have a ton of gain as well.
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Joey, I regret selling my GH50L, mostly because now that I have had you transform my Marshall amps, I realize you could have made my Laney into something that I liked enough for it to be a 'keeper'. I've been shopping around for other 2nd hand Laney's anyway, may try and sell the SL-X to fund a Laney purchase.
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Joey, I regret selling my GH50L, mostly because now that I have had you transform my Marshall amps, I realize you could have made my Laney into something that I liked enough for it to be a 'keeper'. I've been shopping around for other 2nd hand Laney's anyway, may try and sell the SL-X to fund a Laney purchase.
They are becoming harder to come by for good prices, too many people caught on. I bought mine in 2004 for $400.00

If you cant find one, I could always mod your SLX into a modded Laney GH for next to nothing if you wanted.
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They are becoming harder to come by for good prices, too many people caught on. I bought mine in 2004 for $400.00

If you cant find one, I could always mod your SLX into a modded Laney GH for next to nothing if you wanted.
Joey what do you think of the AOR's??? I'm liking them these days.........they are not bad amps..........you can get a good RATT tone with them.
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