Legend Rock & Roll 50 combo, Anyone?

cudamax2343 · 04-03-2009, 07:18 PM

What do you guys think of this old Amp?

bloosman1 · 04-04-2009, 05:51 PM

I think it's beautiful, apparently early 80's? I listened to a utube of it and it sounded good.
---J---

cudamax2343 · 04-04-2009, 07:41 PM

I got this one on the way. Bought it on-line. A Friend of my has one, a 1x12 30watt and that one gets the right Grind.

Really Amazing for a Solid State and the sound just Floored-me. I love the Oak Cabinets. Just look at this corner joint and it looks good in the living room

MartyStrat54 · 04-04-2009, 10:36 PM

Hey cuda! It looks awesome. I've heard of these, but never seen one in person. How much did you pay for it? I heard they are very similar to an 80's Mesa Boogie. The circuitry is similar. Man they just did get two twelve's crammed in there, didn't they?

Keep us posted as to when you get it and how it rocks out.

Marty

cudamax2343 · 04-04-2009, 10:58 PM

Thanx's Marty. I paided 375.00 for that one and just missed a all tube soild oak head for 425.00.

P.S. What Mesa are they like?

MartyStrat54 · 04-09-2009, 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cudamax2343

Thanx's Marty. I paided 375.00 for that one and just missed a all tube soild oak head for 425.00.

P.S. What Mesa are they like?

I thought this was a 50W tube amp. I now see it is solid state. Didn't Legend make an all tube amp? That's what I was thinking about.

Marty

MartyStrat54 · 04-09-2009, 06:54 PM

Does this amp have a tube preamp and solid state power like a Randall? That one picture shows what appears to be 12AX7's.

Marty

cudamax2343 · 04-09-2009, 08:03 PM

Yea, it just got here today and came with the 12ax7 I think wr's soveks with a Fender label. I popped in some old Marshall ec83's and it really didn't change the sound much and at first really didn't like the way it sounded

So I hooked it to my Ashdown Tube Half Stack Cab

and hooked a cable to the preamp output power input to enable the extra gain stage thats #5 below

and Man I love this thing. Its unbelievable. It really doesn't have a bottom end, but that's O.K. It lites-up the "G" "B" and high "E" strings like no other amp has, and even gives me a real good broken up Clean sound. This thing is Flat out hot Classic Rock & Roll sound-in all it's own.

I just found this on the net and got it 280.00 shipped and when I get it Ill put them together and make the head the master and the combo the slave.

I haven't been moved by a amp in a long time. I would of never know it would of been a hybrid. Wow.

cudamax2343 · 04-09-2009, 08:05 PM

P.S Marty what the hell are these Blue things next to the preamp tubes. I think there are 5 or 6 of them.

MartyStrat54 · 04-09-2009, 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cudamax2343

P.S Marty what the hell are these Blue things next to the preamp tubes. I think there are 5 or 6 of them.

Those are power filter capacitors. You probably have four or six of them, as they would be an even number representing the same number of power transistors found in the amp.

Marty

cudamax2343 · 04-09-2009, 10:18 PM

Kool. Power filter capacitors. Actually there a 5. Are they still available and can one tweak an amps sound through those.

MartyStrat54 · 04-11-2009, 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cudamax2343

Kool. Power filter capacitors. Actually there a 5. Are they still available and can one tweak an amps sound through those.

Are all five the same value, or is one different from the others? Since it is a solid state amp, the working voltages will be much lower than a tube amp. Check the voltage and the capacitance values on each of the capacitors. Four of them should go to the power transistors and one should work in the same circuit as the power trannie. They can't be changed out to alter the tone, but they affect the tone if they are going bad. Those are newer style caps that last a little longer than the earlier (all aluminum) styles. I would think they are good, but only a bench test will say for sure. This is only a 50 watt amp and it looks to be overbuilt, so I would say that the caps are okay.

Marty

FJA Mods · 05-12-2009, 04:45 PM

Legend Amps used to be made here in Syracuse, NY. They are essentially a Marshall tube preamp with a Kustom solid state power amp. At one point they were built inthe Kustom factory. ZZ Top used them on one album. VERY LOUD! I've had a few in the shop.
Jerry

cudamax2343 · 05-12-2009, 04:52 PM

I had to sell, due to times being kinda tough right now. I did make out real good.
I sold the 2 Speakers for what I paided for the amp and sold the amp without Speakers for 350.00.

I miss that thing

HoboMan · 06-13-2009, 09:49 AM

I had a Legend amp back in the 80s. Didn't really care for it.

bfglp · 08-22-2009, 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MartyStrat54

Didn't Legend make an all tube amp? That's what I was thinking about.

Marty

Legend only made hybird amps with tube preamps and solid state power. people see those blue caps hanging and think there tubes.

bfglp · 08-22-2009, 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cudamax2343

What Mesa are they like?

my Legend A30 with a G12H100 speaker and some Mesa 12ax7's sounds just like my friends Mesa studio .22

just like any amp with a tube they are sensitive to tube changes, it took several changes for me to be happy with it.

Gtrman58 · 09-11-2009, 12:50 PM

I still have my old legend A 30 with a celestion in it. Its near mint. Just put some JJ's in the pre amp. The amp wasn't the greatest ever sounding amp but the reliability was awesome. Never had a problem. Well, I had to clean the pots about three times in 27 years, but thats not too bad.

I heard from a couple of guys these babies are starting to become collectible.Wonder how true that is?

bfglp · 09-12-2009, 02:24 PM

collectible yes but the a30 112 combo is only worth about $300.oo or less the rock&roll 50 about the same. 212 combos and heads with 212 cabinets around four hundred. the 100watt supper lead stack is the most collected. and they also made some 410 combos that you dont see for sale often.

Gtrman58 · 09-13-2009, 05:06 PM

Well I took my A-30 with a couple old fender amps to my local GC and they all jumped on the Legend and gave it a run. I guess these youngsters never seen one before. When they looked in back and saw the celestion it gave it some added mystic!

Thats the only amp they wanted to give me anything for on a trade for the DSL 100 half stack special they were running.. a 100.00 bucks on trade !!! Wow! Would about cover the taxes on the new rig.

I said no and walked. I will keep it for a back up.

Ended up getting the DSL 100 for alot less online!

thrawn86 · 10-21-2009, 12:55 PM

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Gtrman58 · 10-22-2009, 06:31 AM

Wow my latest issue of Vintage Guitar has my A-30 listed as 350.00 good condition 475.00 in excellent condition. Hmmmmm

04-03-2009, 07:18 PM	#1 (permalink)
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04-04-2009, 07:41 PM	#3 (permalink)
cudamax2343 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Outside of Chicago Posts: 108	Re: Legend Rock & Roll 50 combo, Anyone? I got this one on the way. Bought it on-line. A Friend of my has one, a 1x12 30watt and that one gets the right Grind. Really Amazing for a Solid State and the sound just Floored-me. I love the Oak Cabinets. Just look at this corner joint and it looks good in the living room

04-04-2009, 10:36 PM	#4 (permalink)
MartyStrat54 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Formerly Phoenix, now north of KC Posts: 2,583	Re: Legend Rock & Roll 50 combo, Anyone? Hey cuda! It looks awesome. I've heard of these, but never seen one in person. How much did you pay for it? I heard they are very similar to an 80's Mesa Boogie. The circuitry is similar. Man they just did get two twelve's crammed in there, didn't they? Keep us posted as to when you get it and how it rocks out. Marty

04-04-2009, 10:58 PM	#5 (permalink)
cudamax2343 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Outside of Chicago Posts: 108	Re: Legend Rock & Roll 50 combo, Anyone? Thanx's Marty. I paided 375.00 for that one and just missed a all tube soild oak head for 425.00. P.S. What Mesa are they like?

04-09-2009, 06:54 PM	#7 (permalink)
MartyStrat54 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Formerly Phoenix, now north of KC Posts: 2,583	Re: Legend Rock & Roll 50 combo, Anyone? Does this amp have a tube preamp and solid state power like a Randall? That one picture shows what appears to be 12AX7's. Marty

04-09-2009, 08:03 PM	#8 (permalink)
cudamax2343 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Outside of Chicago Posts: 108	Re: Legend Rock & Roll 50 combo, Anyone? Yea, it just got here today and came with the 12ax7 I think wr's soveks with a Fender label. I popped in some old Marshall ec83's and it really didn't change the sound much and at first really didn't like the way it sounded So I hooked it to my Ashdown Tube Half Stack Cab and hooked a cable to the preamp output power input to enable the extra gain stage thats #5 below and Man I love this thing. Its unbelievable. It really doesn't have a bottom end, but that's O.K. It lites-up the "G" "B" and high "E" strings like no other amp has, and even gives me a real good broken up Clean sound. This thing is Flat out hot Classic Rock & Roll sound-in all it's own. I just found this on the net and got it 280.00 shipped and when I get it Ill put them together and make the head the master and the combo the slave. I haven't been moved by a amp in a long time. I would of never know it would of been a hybrid. Wow.

04-09-2009, 08:05 PM	#9 (permalink)
cudamax2343 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Outside of Chicago Posts: 108	Re: Legend Rock & Roll 50 combo, Anyone? P.S Marty what the hell are these Blue things next to the preamp tubes. I think there are 5 or 6 of them.

04-09-2009, 10:18 PM	#11 (permalink)
cudamax2343 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Outside of Chicago Posts: 108	Re: Legend Rock & Roll 50 combo, Anyone? Kool. Power filter capacitors. Actually there a 5. Are they still available and can one tweak an amps sound through those.

05-12-2009, 04:45 PM	#13 (permalink)
FJA Mods Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Syracuse, NY Posts: 9	Re: Legend Rock & Roll 50 combo, Anyone? Legend Amps used to be made here in Syracuse, NY. They are essentially a Marshall tube preamp with a Kustom solid state power amp. At one point they were built inthe Kustom factory. ZZ Top used them on one album. VERY LOUD! I've had a few in the shop. Jerry __________________ FJA Mods FJA Mods YouTube FJA Myspace

05-12-2009, 04:52 PM	#14 (permalink)
cudamax2343 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Outside of Chicago Posts: 108	Re: Legend Rock & Roll 50 combo, Anyone? I had to sell, due to times being kinda tough right now. I did make out real good. I sold the 2 Speakers for what I paided for the amp and sold the amp without Speakers for 350.00. I miss that thing

06-13-2009, 09:49 AM	#15 (permalink)
HoboMan Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 6	Re: Legend Rock & Roll 50 combo, Anyone? I had a Legend amp back in the 80s. Didn't really care for it.

09-11-2009, 12:50 PM	#18 (permalink)
Gtrman58 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: St. Louis, Mo. Posts: 148	Re: Legend Rock & Roll 50 combo, Anyone? I still have my old legend A 30 with a celestion in it. Its near mint. Just put some JJ's in the pre amp. The amp wasn't the greatest ever sounding amp but the reliability was awesome. Never had a problem. Well, I had to clean the pots about three times in 27 years, but thats not too bad. I heard from a couple of guys these babies are starting to become collectible.Wonder how true that is?

09-12-2009, 02:24 PM	#19 (permalink)
bfglp Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 32	Re: Legend Rock & Roll 50 combo, Anyone? collectible yes but the a30 112 combo is only worth about $300.oo or less the rock&roll 50 about the same. 212 combos and heads with 212 cabinets around four hundred. the 100watt supper lead stack is the most collected. and they also made some 410 combos that you dont see for sale often.

09-13-2009, 05:06 PM	#20 (permalink)
Gtrman58 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: St. Louis, Mo. Posts: 148	Re: Legend Rock & Roll 50 combo, Anyone? Well I took my A-30 with a couple old fender amps to my local GC and they all jumped on the Legend and gave it a run. I guess these youngsters never seen one before. When they looked in back and saw the celestion it gave it some added mystic! Thats the only amp they wanted to give me anything for on a trade for the DSL 100 half stack special they were running.. a 100.00 bucks on trade !!! Wow! Would about cover the taxes on the new rig. I said no and walked. I will keep it for a back up. Ended up getting the DSL 100 for alot less online! __________________ 2009 JCM 2000 Dsl 100 MLB MC412A 1951 Fender Deluxe 2006 Hot Rod Deluxe 1995 Blues Junior 1994 Blues Deville Vox Path Finder 1982 Legend A 30 1980 Gibson Herritage Cherry Sunburst Standard 1980 Explorer White with gold HW 2000 52 Telecaster USA RI 1983 57 Strat LH USA RI 2003 57 Strat USA RI 1960 Silvertone Danelectro 1994 Fender P-bass 68 RI Acoustic guitars....not enough space to list !!!!!

10-21-2009, 12:55 PM	#21 (permalink)
thrawn86 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Far Nor Cal USA Posts: 426	Re: Legend Rock & Roll 50 combo, Anyone? . __________________ Drivin' faster in my car... 02 DSL 401-Ei's 02 1960b 02 Gibson LP Studio Silver 03 PRS Santana SE Holy Grail reverb Originally Posted by J. Robert Oppenheimer "We knew the world would not be the same."

10-22-2009, 06:31 AM	#22 (permalink)
Gtrman58 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: St. Louis, Mo. Posts: 148	Re: Legend Rock & Roll 50 combo, Anyone? Wow my latest issue of Vintage Guitar has my A-30 listed as 350.00 good condition 475.00 in excellent condition. Hmmmmm __________________ 2009 JCM 2000 Dsl 100 MLB MC412A 1951 Fender Deluxe 2006 Hot Rod Deluxe 1995 Blues Junior 1994 Blues Deville Vox Path Finder 1982 Legend A 30 1980 Gibson Herritage Cherry Sunburst Standard 1980 Explorer White with gold HW 2000 52 Telecaster USA RI 1983 57 Strat LH USA RI 2003 57 Strat USA RI 1960 Silvertone Danelectro 1994 Fender P-bass 68 RI Acoustic guitars....not enough space to list !!!!!

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