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Unread 08-02-2012, 08:31 AM   #1 (permalink)
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What Other Amp Sounds like a Marshall JCM800...

does any other production, not clone amp, sound like a jcm800, but able to be dilaed in with more modern higerh gain also?
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Unread 08-02-2012, 09:37 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: What Other Amp Sounds like a Marshall JCM800...

I'm pretty satisfied with my Peavey Classic 50 2x12.
One of the bands I'm in, I need a Marshall sound but, long short short, I have to have a compact setup, so that what I'm using.
Through a full PA with a little board tweaking, without actually seeing what I'm using, I think it passes for an old Marshall (I only use a little over 1/2 the gain also).
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Re: What Other Amp Sounds like a Marshall JCM800...

Try Cornford.... any of the 50 watt models. If you find one, I'm sure you'll appreciate the tone. They don't come cheap, but worth every penny.

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Re: What Other Amp Sounds like a Marshall JCM800...

Rumor has it that the Peavey VTM is a JCM 800 clone...
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Re: What Other Amp Sounds like a Marshall JCM800...

Marshall Mosfet Lead 100 can come pretty close and they are really cheap on ebay. (altho it is no longer in production and it is not a tube amp)
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Re: What Other Amp Sounds like a Marshall JCM800...

oh yeah, And I just picked up a Artist 3203 for 350 which I'm very happy with
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Splawn quickrod.
Maybe a laney GH50L (it's a bit more compressed then a JCM though).
Laney AOR.
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Re: What Other Amp Sounds like a Marshall JCM800...

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Rumor has it that the Peavey VTM is a JCM 800 clone...
Yup, and the Butcher. Not the modern one, the one from the 80s.

But the VTM and the Butcher will have a more "American" sound to them since theyre 6L6 loaded.

Theres also Ceriatone, who makes Marshall clones. I also believe the Mesa Stiletto and Atlantic amps are Mesa's take on the Marshall sound.

And if youre on a budget, theres the Peavey Windsor.
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Re: What Other Amp Sounds like a Marshall JCM800...

+1 on Ceriatone. I have the 100 Chupacabra and it does a great traditional 800 tone as well as a badass, pissed off Jose 800 tone (as in way more gain/saturation). It's so close that I was debating which of the 1 watters to pick up, the JCM-1 or the JMP-1 but honestly, the JCM-1 would be redundant for me because the Chupa already nails that vibe so well, and so I've decided on the JMP-1 (if I can find one, lol).

The Quick Rod was another great recomendation...especially first gear.
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Re: What Other Amp Sounds like a Marshall JCM800...

I assume when you say JCM 800 you mean. 2203/2204. IMO there are a lot of good answers here. I think Lester is on the right track. Only a Marshall is going to have the Marshall snarle and EQ. I have a bogner shiva that captures what you speak of but has no headroom = too much gain. I would caution against too much gain as this will leave behind the Marshall definition.

I would if using a 2203/2204 apply a .68uf cap to the V2a cathode resistor and use a BBE Green Screamer in front of the amp. The cap will add a little smooth gain, the screamer will add more gain than a SD-1 and not add more Mids which is more of a modern metal tone. And it WILL still sound like a Marshall. Good luck.

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I assume when you say JCM 800 you mean. 2203/2204. IMO there are a lot of good answers here. I think Lester is on the right track. Only a Marshall is going to have the Marshall snarle and EQ. I have a bogner shiva that captures what you speak of but has no headroom = too much gain. I would caution against too much gain as this will leave behind the Marshall definition.

I would if using a 2203/2204 apply a .68uf cap to the V2a cathode resistor and use a BBE Green Screamer in front of the amp. The cap will add a little smooth gain, the screamer will add more gain than a SD-1 and not add more Mids which is more of a modern metal tone. And it WILL still sound like a Marshall. Good luck.

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+1 on Ceriatone. I have the 100 Chupacabra and it does a great traditional 800 tone as well as a badass, pissed off Jose 800 tone (as in way more gain/saturation). It's so close that I was debating which of the 1 watters to pick up, the JCM-1 or the JMP-1 but honestly, the JCM-1 would be redundant for me because the Chupa already nails that vibe so well, and so I've decided on the JMP-1 (if I can find one, lol).

The Quick Rod was another great recomendation...especially first gear.
You are located in NW Georgia, USA? If so, the Atlanta GC still has one combo left in stock when i was there a couple days ago. If you have to have a head then you might want to call the store and see if they can get you on a special order list if they try to put one together. I know that most retailers will not offer more of these models but the manager at this GC told me they are trying to put together a special order because of demand. I think a store in Tennessee still had one the last time i searched too. Good luck.
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Oh duh... Forgot about the JVM.
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Re: What Other Amp Sounds like a Marshall JCM800...

The Peavey Windsor gets pretty close to a JCM800.
Doesn't have a "metal" sound in it though.
I boost my Windsor with a MXR Zakk Wylde overdrive and I get more gain than I need out of that combination.
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Re: What Other Amp Sounds like a Marshall JCM800...

You can try the MF350.

It is a "valve state" platform based on two 2 channel amps (four modes). Amp 1 is classic-voiced, which was billed to be dialed to JCM800. Amp is modern-voiced, which includes a 3-position dial to switch mids. Thus, Amp 1 is Clean/Crunch, Amp 2 is OD1/OD2 Each channel is independently EQed and footswitchable. There is also onboard reverb and solo boost. On top of that, they are cheaply priced being misunderstood and discontinued. If you have any dialing skills and can shed the valvestate stigma, it is probably the best kept secret in Marshall History.
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Re: What Other Amp Sounds like a Marshall JCM800...

Here is Reinholds version of a 2203. IPhone just for this thread. Tone is in the ear of the beholder.

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Re: What Other Amp Sounds like a Marshall JCM800...

I think Lester has it nailed.I had the 900sl-x in a red head version.It was similar to the 800 with more gain,but for me it lost just a bit of organic harmonic tone compared to my 2203x.I used both for awhile,and the sl-x was sold,but I think it might be what you are looking for.I go for less gain ala zztop or ac/dc,and I preffered the 2203x's clean tone over the sl-x.
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You are located in NW Georgia, USA? If so, the Atlanta GC still has one combo left in stock when i was there a couple days ago. If you have to have a head then you might want to call the store and see if they can get you on a special order list if they try to put one together. I know that most retailers will not offer more of these models but the manager at this GC told me they are trying to put together a special order because of demand. I think a store in Tennessee still had one the last time i searched too. Good luck.
DUDE...LOL! If you only knew!!! I've been eyeballing a JMP-1 head at the Atlanta store all week (well, it's available on the GC/Atl used gear page). So I call them today, CC in hand, ready to toss down some funds to secure it until....get this...tomorrow (just paid a ton-o-bills, need reinforcement). Naturally, they tell me somebody snagged the ****er before I did. It's now on law-a-way for somebody else. I have the luck of a broke dick dog. Thanks for the heads up regardless! Not a combo fan. I'll keep searching though, one may pop up somewhere. If not, I still have both Shiva and Mark IV gas!


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I agree with Lester, I have a 2203 and a SLX 2100, if you lower the gain on the SLX it sounds pretty close to the 800 and has a loop. The 800 is the 1997 Guitar Center version. Both of mine have e-34l JJ power tubes in them
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His name is Mike Kerr, he is endorsed by Voodoo amps.

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I always thought my jmp and SLX could do the 800 vibe, not to a T but close enough.
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does any other production, not clone amp, sound like a jcm800, but able to be dilaed in with more modern higerh gain also?
Marshall JMD1 will get you there...........
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80's LANEY AOR !!!
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I'm pretty satisfied with my Peavey Classic 50 2x12.
One of the bands I'm in, I need a Marshall sound but, long short short, I have to have a compact setup, so that what I'm using.
Through a full PA with a little board tweaking, without actually seeing what I'm using, I think it passes for an old Marshall (I only use a little over 1/2 the gain also).

I played a Peavey Classic 30 today while on a mission to buy a Fender Blues Deluxe... I liked the Peavey so damn much I didn't buy anything and walked out of the store thinking maybe I was having an off day. Surely Peavey, the brand everyone was embarassed to own when I was a kid couldn't have sounded that good. I'm going back tomorrow after I give my ears a good Q-tippin' to see if it as a fluke.
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People are embarrased to own Peaveys?

Lots of guys own the Peavey 6505/5150, and its extremely popular. And unlike other best selling amps like the Line 6 Spider, Peavey tube amps are well respected.

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