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Unread 05-27-2012, 05:07 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Bugera 333 XL

So my other guitarist left his Bugera at my house...I went to try it out...Holy shit...It sounds pretty freaking good...He is willing to sell it to me 350 to 400 dollars..What do you think?? Sell my AVT and get it?
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Unread 05-27-2012, 05:13 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Bugera 333 XL

Just wondering, whats it dated? If it's before 2009, then skip it. Thats when they were known for having reliability issues. But if it is from that period and is still alive, then maybe it doesn't matter.

And if he does wanna sell it, talk him down to like $325 - $350.
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Unread 05-27-2012, 05:46 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Bugera 333 XL

Yeah..I think its 2010...or 2011...No earlier than 2010 though..This is his 3rd one!! lol But it has been solid for over a year!
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Re: Bugera 333 XL

Hmmm, I say it's good then. The more recent they are, the better the quality.

Oh, and I believe it's supposed to be based on the Peavey XXX, but it reminds me of a mix of a Peavey 6505/5150 and a XXX. Some people say they're ever closer sounding to a Mesa Rectifier (which the XXX was based on), but it sounds quite a bit tighter, IMO. Very awesome sounding and versatile amp.
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Re: Bugera 333 XL

Yeah.....Or some sorta of ENGL..Im not sure
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Yeah.....Or some sorta of ENGL..Im not sure
Judging by the name, I'm gonna go with the peavey.
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Judging by the name, I'm gonna go with the peavey.
Yeahhh!!!!! Hahahhha...Later on i can pair it with the Jmp 1..Way later one though
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Re: Bugera 333 XL

Be prepared to have it in the shop often. I wouldn't buy anything with "Bugera" written on it. There's a reason they are so cheap.
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Bugera News Blog Archive Announcing Our Three Year Warranty!

If your frind still have the receipt, I think you're set.

But if you do end up worrying about the reliability, look for an old Peavey Ultra Plus. They're going to have a somewhat similar voicing, but the Ultra Plus will have more mids and less gain.

But honestly, if the amp lasted 2 years, I'm pretty sure it's solid.
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buy here. i sold a XXX for $360 last year and bought and sold a bugera for $200
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Bugera News Blog Archive Announcing Our Three Year Warranty!

If your frind still have the receipt, I think you're set.

But if you do end up worrying about the reliability, look for an old Peavey Ultra Plus. They're going to have a somewhat similar voicing, but the Ultra Plus will have more mids and less gain.

But honestly, if the amp lasted 2 years, I'm pretty sure it's solid.
Thats what I was thinking!
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Unread 05-28-2012, 01:12 AM   #12 (permalink)
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I'm telling you you can get a XXX in Ohio for $400. maybe $650 tops. a Bugera for $200 or LESS. basicaly, that's NOT a good deal

Bugera's don't sell to people that know wmps unless they wanna give them a shot for the hell of it or have tech skills and like repairing amps on the cheap.

the 333XL is a great sounding amp but i am giving you some options as well as some deterrants with hopes of sssisting your making a sound (pun intended) decision.
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Re: Bugera 333 XL

Haha..Yeah! I guess I wont get it then! Maybe a DSL..if I had the money...
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well if you really WANT it though talk him down to $250 and then it's mostly a decent deal. It will likely end up with the heater issue. it takes the amp being on up to 2 hours before it gos into failure to know if it has the issue. The price point out here though is $250 tops for any Bugera and even then it's pushing it.
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Re: Bugera 333 XL

I think that perhaps if you are going to shop in that market you may wish to look into the B52 AT100. Much smoother saturation and overall tone for the same amount of money it smokes the Buger amps and in my opinion sounds better than the Peavey's!

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Re: Bugera 333 XL

Hmmm..I should consider them B52
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David's got a point. The B52 AT100's actualy sound really good. to ME they sound and feel a lot like a properly set up Carvin MTS 3200 (which it looks a lot like mechanicaly/electronicaly and they sound really good)

they're not built horribly and they sound pretty damn good and they have a ton of eq options. Then for another cheap one that's surprisingly good are the Carvin MTS3200 (only used, they don't make trhem now) and their V3 units. I've owned both and they're really good amps.
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Re: Bugera 333 XL

I actually was looking for the MTS3200...Havent found one yet!
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I actually was looking for the MTS3200...Havent found one yet!
they're higly tough and tonaly underrated, never had issues w mine. i miss it.
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you can get the for $350 tops too....sick sick amps imo and the best tube amp for under a grand new imo.
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Re: Bugera 333 XL

I agree with the MTS. I don't know much about the drive channel, but I've heard the clean channel, and it's amazing.
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I agree with the MTS. I don't know much about the drive channel, but I've heard the clean channel, and it's amazing.
Marshall mids but recto lows. depending on the bias tubes and settings it can be organic an smooth or harsh and choppy. it's really kind of amazing for the price. mine held its own next to 5150's, mesa's, marshalls and framus. not as good as some no but right there with all but the best of them.
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Re: Bugera 333 XL

The only problem is it has 2 channels..I would like something with 3...A Tsl is a bit crappy I heard?? True?
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Well, if all else fails, I still recommend the Peavey Ultra Plus. :P
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The only problem is it has 2 channels..I would like something with 3...A Tsl is a bit crappy I heard?? True?
TSL sounds great imo but built a little.....lackluster. Carvin V3's a great option too. that's another one i'd love to have again. May get one for my live shows once i start playing live again as they're cheap, killer and versatile. Marshall wise you want 3 channels and good tone and at least acceptable build it's JVM or nothing now. 6100's the sweet one but hard to find.
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Re: Bugera 333 XL

Hmmmm.....I think I sould just stick it and get money for a rack like a Jmp 1 I guess.
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Hmmmm.....I think I sould just stick it and get money for a rack like a Jmp 1 I guess.
ultimately the best thing to do is try what you can and save and buy what you really want. Bugera's sound awesome which pisses me off because it tempts me but they break....a LOT. Marshall's sound great too but the used market's flooded with broken ones from people that mismatch impedances etc too. if you like the JMP-1 (which is a pretty sick preamp imo) then yeah get it. the TSL can be a great amp too but you really gotta shop around for those because they're delicate builds and people **** them up all the time. 3 channel marshalls leave you the TSL 6100 and JVM's respectively though. personaly i like my Framus' the most but a solid 2210 inbetween them or MKIII would be ideal. those are rediculously cool amps with all you should need other than reverb.
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Re: Bugera 333 XL

I played a 333XL years ago and I thought that even with a microphonic preamp tube sounded better than other amp I had demoed costing five time as much (literally). I'd give him $300 for it.
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