Nad

diesect20022000 · 01-24-2012, 12:28 AM

well it's not here yet but, it's also a wolf in ....well another wolves clothing

I'm setting up to buy it tomorrow: Cobra modified Dragon. That is, it's a Framus Cobra in a Dragon box/chassis now.

not the cab but, the head.

which means i MAY sell THIS:V

diesect20022000 · 01-24-2012, 12:30 AM

and for those who may be interested, the middle set of knobs, those ARE my settings in ALL of my Dragon clips. i didn't change them for any of them, i roll my volume knob back to get those OTHER marshally tones in it, all right there in those settings (with a boost or without it still works, for metal i need that boost though).

Lespaulnmarshall · 01-24-2012, 12:45 AM

Keep em both and use em in a wet/dry/wet rig.
Cobra on the left = wet
Marshall (eg. DSL) in the middle = Crunch
Dragon on the right = wet

diesect20022000 · 01-24-2012, 12:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lespaulnmarshall

Keep em both and use em in a wet/dry/wet rig.
Cobra on the left = wet
Marshall (eg. DSL) in the middle = Crunch
Dragon on the right = wet

dude you NAILED my plan!

next amp is a 2205 or 2500 MKIII and for EXACTLY that!

you sinister dog you

diesect20022000 · 01-24-2012, 12:57 AM

i want to have it like this
Dragonlead (crunch) and rhythm (lead channel)
Cobra Rhythm on Crunch and lead on rhtyhm
2205 lead, lead, lead.

so i can do rhythms in layers with the Framus's or leads in layers with a Framus plus 2205

then use the cobra cleans specificaly for delays etc and dragons for reverbs and achos etc.

i'll have a double boost as well. i will likely start with a delay per amp and maybe a verb on the marshall to test.

if it doesn't all go well i'll sell the regular dragon (most likely) on here for an axe fx ultra or $1200 minimum.

the Dragon's 100% too with fresh power tubes so IF i sell one it'll likely be it and at $1200.

diesect20022000 · 01-24-2012, 02:06 AM

mump

Blokkadeleider · 01-24-2012, 02:36 AM

Keep them both! Would be fun.
I wasn't aware Framus is from former eastern Germany.

Gr,

Gerrit.

brp · 01-24-2012, 02:37 AM

Not a poll option but, get the 2205 first, you already have a Dragon

blues_n_cues · 01-24-2012, 02:49 AM

and just when we thought you were actually get a 6 (or 7)knob ol' Marshall.......

diesect20022000 · 01-24-2012, 03:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brp

Not a poll option but, get the 2205 first, you already have a Dragon

it says right up there it's a cobra in a dragon frame. it's been modified to cobra specs so it's not the same amp, it just looks like it

2205's are easier to get than these honestly but, that's next.

diesect20022000 · 01-24-2012, 03:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blues_n_cues

and just when we thought you were actually get a 6 (or 7)knob ol' Marshall.......

yeah these amps have all the sounds i need though. i do modern and everything else. an old marshall is everything else but, i still plan on getting a 2205 or an MKIII to cut down the center. that's been the plan. these are harder to get though so i'm snagging them up. the white one's a Cobra spec Dragon (so it's not a Dragon anymore) and the other one (that i own now) is a stock dragon.

the Dragon on one end,cobra other and 2205 in the middle

diesect20022000 · 01-24-2012, 03:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blokkadeleider

Keep them both! Would be fun.
I wasn't aware Framus is from former eastern Germany.

Gr,

Gerrit.

yeah i love German amps. the tones the Dragon can produce in range and depth are amazing. i can get most marshall tones with it, some vox and fender tones and some unique to it. The Cobra will be very much off to metal only land and once i get the 2205 i'll have my marshall in there

JayCM800 · 01-25-2012, 12:53 AM

Ok, i'm gonna say it... Don't do it! Buy a Marshall! There! (Got that off my chest!)

Good luck!

diesect20022000 · 01-25-2012, 12:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JayCM800

Ok, i'm gonna say it... Don't do it! Buy a Marshall! There! (Got that off my chest!)

Good luck!

too late

2205 or MKIII is next though then an axe fx for convenience and i'm done for a month or two.

JayCM800 · 01-25-2012, 01:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by diesect20022000

too late

2205 or MKIII is next though then an axe fx for convenience and i'm done for a month or two.

Cool! Do you plan to run the axe/fx thru a couple of your heads!?

(Is that possible?)

diesect20022000 · 01-25-2012, 01:03 AM

those who hate the dragon and have not played one dialed in let alone at all....well.....poo on your opinion!lol

if you hate them because you don't like their sound i'd understand but, i don't think you'd like Marshalls much then either. it's a modern metal marshall. all i need is a 2205 for the middle or "solo" section (though these do that REALLY well too) and i've got it all.

the things go from plexi to SLO (literaly, stock dragons are 2203 on the crunch with added gain stages and tighter low end and the lead's an SLO100 while the clean is a VOX ac circuit) the COBRA modified dragon is cobra spec which is the same but, more gain and compression and is brighter in voice. same amp though with a couple resistors swapped in for higher values and one removed in there. so it's a JVM on the crunch and SLO00 on the lead and VOX ac on the clean.

so basicaly they're modern metal marshalls with lower noise floors. I do plan on getting my marshalls again now though. I had to get this cobra first (the cobra modified dragon as they're HARD to get) but, i plan on getting a 4500,2500mkIII,2205 and JMP at some point and all the 1 watters when they're re released,lol.

diesect20022000 · 01-25-2012, 01:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JayCM800

Cool! Do you plan to run the axe/fx thru a couple of your heads!?

(Is that possible?)

yeah i will use it for FX and as a travel recording rig ( i may do some fly in dates etc)

TwinACStacks · 01-25-2012, 08:47 AM

I'm only seeing 5 Poll choices....

TWIN

diesect20022000 · 01-25-2012, 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwinACStacks

I'm only seeing 5 Poll choices....

TWIN

should i have glide path, off my lawn and VOX AC30CC2?

TwinACStacks · 01-25-2012, 11:35 AM

No. Just a " I cannot offer an opinion as I'm not well enough informed on this issue, and am slightly Retarded" option.

TWIN

diesect20022000 · 01-25-2012, 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwinACStacks

No. Just a " I cannot offer an opinion as I'm not well enough informed on this issue, and am slightly Retarded" option.

TWIN

so....my general mental state

okay yeah i can dig it.

in truth, you'd probably hate this amp. it does have many marshall voices though but, it's a high gainer. does a decent plexi and 800 thing though

seth · 01-25-2012, 01:04 PM

this post made me think of this.

FUS RO DAH megaphone - YouTube

get all the amps you can and crank them as often as you can.

diesect20022000 · 01-25-2012, 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seth

this post made me think of this.

FUS RO DAH megaphone - YouTube

get all the amps you can and crank them as often as you can.

hmmmmmm

he he he

NewReligion · 01-27-2012, 03:30 PM

Awesome!

I voted "Don't sell either man, they're both different internaly and the white one's hot."

Man if you can afford to keep them both that is the way to go as they are need something you can pick up at the drop of the hat.

NR

dread1 · 01-27-2012, 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NewReligion

Awesome!

I voted "Don't sell either man, they're both different internaly and the white one's hot."

Man if you can afford to keep them both that is the way to go as they are need something you can pick up at the drop of the hat.

NR

Yes, keep both!
I regretted selling some amps in the past, and it blows...

Moose Lewis · 01-29-2012, 09:59 AM

Keep both. Get another Marshall. Invest in an ABYXDC box array. Ka-chawwww!

diesect20022000 · 01-29-2012, 07:51 PM

ha ha yeah i'm probably going to keep both. They're just too GOOD to let go. It took forever to get the Dragon's proper EQ but, man once i did (i mean for what i do, it has a TON of lows and can get muddy if they're up past 9 oclock yes NINE O CLOCK! with high gain).

i just did another clip though i can't get the mic to work right so it's crappy web cam. It's a couple of bits froma new song i'm working on called MORGELLONS (which may end up being my solo projects "band name" as well.)

this is the Dragon though. I won't get the DraCobra till wed or so.

Moose Lewis · 01-29-2012, 08:47 PM

Interesting mashup... DraCobra.
... Dragobra
... Cobragon

diesect20022000 · 01-29-2012, 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moose Lewis

Interesting mashup... DraCobra.
... Dragobra
... Cobragon

i actualy was REALLY thinking DRAG-Cobra but,.......i'm not sure what that says about me

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!

diesect20022000 · 02-07-2012, 02:01 PM

View Poll Results: should i keep both? sell one? Hate them!? no opinion?
yes! it's hot	3	13.64%
No! i hate these things.....	5	22.73%
yes, sell the other one, it's not a cobra...sell it to MEEEEE!!!!	0	0%
Don't sell either man, they're both different internaly and the white one's hot.	11	50.00%
I have no opinion.....other than those are SEXY HOT BEACHES!	3	13.64%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 22. You may not vote on this poll

01-24-2012, 12:28 AM	#1 (permalink)
diesect20022000 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 16,628	Nad well it's not here yet but, it's also a wolf in ....well another wolves clothing I'm setting up to buy it tomorrow: Cobra modified Dragon. That is, it's a Framus Cobra in a Dragon box/chassis now. not the cab but, the head. which means i MAY sell THIS:V NewReligion, Blokkadeleider and Söulcaster like this. __________________ http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/p...ies_040213.pdf

01-24-2012, 12:30 AM	#2 (permalink)
diesect20022000 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 16,628	Re: Nad and for those who may be interested, the middle set of knobs, those ARE my settings in ALL of my Dragon clips. i didn't change them for any of them, i roll my volume knob back to get those OTHER marshally tones in it, all right there in those settings (with a boost or without it still works, for metal i need that boost though). __________________ http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/p...ies_040213.pdf

01-24-2012, 12:45 AM	#3 (permalink)
Lespaulnmarshall Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Burning hell Posts: 5,576	Re: Nad Keep em both and use em in a wet/dry/wet rig. Cobra on the left = wet Marshall (eg. DSL) in the middle = Crunch Dragon on the right = wet solarburnDSL50, diesect20022000 and The Ozzk like this. __________________ 1987x .Every guitarist should have experienced it at least once

01-24-2012, 12:57 AM	#5 (permalink)
diesect20022000 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 16,628	Re: Nad i want to have it like this Dragonlead (crunch) and rhythm (lead channel) Cobra Rhythm on Crunch and lead on rhtyhm 2205 lead, lead, lead. so i can do rhythms in layers with the Framus's or leads in layers with a Framus plus 2205 then use the cobra cleans specificaly for delays etc and dragons for reverbs and achos etc. i'll have a double boost as well. i will likely start with a delay per amp and maybe a verb on the marshall to test. if it doesn't all go well i'll sell the regular dragon (most likely) on here for an axe fx ultra or $1200 minimum. the Dragon's 100% too with fresh power tubes so IF i sell one it'll likely be it and at $1200. __________________ http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/p...ies_040213.pdf

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01-24-2012, 02:06 AM	#6 (permalink)
diesect20022000 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 16,628	Re: Nad mump __________________ http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/p...ies_040213.pdf

01-24-2012, 02:36 AM	#7 (permalink)
Blokkadeleider Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Twente, the Netherlands Posts: 3,656	Re: Nad Keep them both! Would be fun. I wasn't aware Framus is from former eastern Germany. Gr, Gerrit.

01-24-2012, 02:37 AM	#8 (permalink)
brp Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 4,129	Re: Nad Not a poll option but, get the 2205 first, you already have a Dragon __________________ Recommended: On Floor Audio mods by HOT TUBES 70, Martimus Maximus tubes from MartyStrat54, NOS tubes from RiverRatt -- My Studio -- "If we can't laugh at the dead, we have no business killing people"

01-24-2012, 02:49 AM	#9 (permalink)
blues_n_cues Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: north of nashville Posts: 8,967	Re: Nad and just when we thought you were actually get a 6 (or 7)knob ol' Marshall....... __________________ LIFE,LIBERTY,& the pursuit of TONE. 2007 Epi LP custom ltd. in ivory 2010 Austin gold top w/ P90s modded Squier strat >Zoom G1(tuner)vox 847 wah >boss sd-1 > vintage mxr dist+ > alesis midiverbs 2(delay)& 3(verb & or chorus) > jcm800 2204 > 4x12 w/ altec lansing 417-8H spkrs my music- https://soundcloud.com/rlc-ltd

01-25-2012, 12:53 AM	#13 (permalink)
JayCM800 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: New York, New York Posts: 4,349	Re: Nad Ok, i'm gonna say it... Don't do it! Buy a Marshall! There! (Got that off my chest!) Good luck! __________________ Disclaimer: Just my .02 cents, In my honest opinion, Your mileage may vary...

01-25-2012, 01:03 AM	#16 (permalink)
diesect20022000 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 16,628	Re: Nad those who hate the dragon and have not played one dialed in let alone at all....well.....poo on your opinion!lol if you hate them because you don't like their sound i'd understand but, i don't think you'd like Marshalls much then either. it's a modern metal marshall. all i need is a 2205 for the middle or "solo" section (though these do that REALLY well too) and i've got it all. the things go from plexi to SLO (literaly, stock dragons are 2203 on the crunch with added gain stages and tighter low end and the lead's an SLO100 while the clean is a VOX ac circuit) the COBRA modified dragon is cobra spec which is the same but, more gain and compression and is brighter in voice. same amp though with a couple resistors swapped in for higher values and one removed in there. so it's a JVM on the crunch and SLO00 on the lead and VOX ac on the clean. so basicaly they're modern metal marshalls with lower noise floors. I do plan on getting my marshalls again now though. I had to get this cobra first (the cobra modified dragon as they're HARD to get) but, i plan on getting a 4500,2500mkIII,2205 and JMP at some point and all the 1 watters when they're re released,lol. Söulcaster likes this. __________________ http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/p...ies_040213.pdf

01-27-2012, 03:30 PM	#24 (permalink)
NewReligion Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Wringing That Neck Posts: 6,930	Re: Nad Awesome! I voted "Don't sell either man, they're both different internaly and the white one's hot." Man if you can afford to keep them both that is the way to go as they are need something you can pick up at the drop of the hat. NR diesect20022000 and Söulcaster like this.

01-29-2012, 09:59 AM	#26 (permalink)
Moose Lewis Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: USA Posts: 2,028	Re: Nad Keep both. Get another Marshall. Invest in an ABYXDC box array. Ka-chawwww! diesect20022000 likes this. __________________

01-29-2012, 07:51 PM	#27 (permalink)
diesect20022000 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 16,628	Re: Nad ha ha yeah i'm probably going to keep both. They're just too GOOD to let go. It took forever to get the Dragon's proper EQ but, man once i did (i mean for what i do, it has a TON of lows and can get muddy if they're up past 9 oclock yes NINE O CLOCK! with high gain). i just did another clip though i can't get the mic to work right so it's crappy web cam. It's a couple of bits froma new song i'm working on called MORGELLONS (which may end up being my solo projects "band name" as well.) this is the Dragon though. I won't get the DraCobra till wed or so. __________________ http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/p...ies_040213.pdf

01-29-2012, 08:47 PM	#28 (permalink)
Moose Lewis Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: USA Posts: 2,028	Re: Nad Interesting mashup... DraCobra. ... Dragobra ... Cobragon __________________

02-07-2012, 02:01 PM	#30 (permalink)
diesect20022000 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 16,628	Re: Nad Blokkadeleider, Strateuphoria and Söulcaster like this. __________________ http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/p...ies_040213.pdf

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