dodgethis

Hey guys.

This is not another 'Which amp sounds better' thread, but rather, a 'Which one is more suited to bla bla' type of thread.

I am looking for a Marshall tube amp head to go along with a multi effects stompbox (either Zoom G7.1ut or Line 6 Pod XT Live) for my setup. Found a guy who was letting go of a Ceriatone 2203 clone and a Marshall JVM410He at almost similar prices.

Which one of the two amps would be a better match for using a multi effects pedal (any kind) with?

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Australian

think of this - xt live controlling the JVM's channels and reverb via midi.

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dodgethis

Bump for the refined question.

V-man

This one seems simple to me...

At = prices, actual Marshall > Ceriatone.

The Marshall commands better resale, especially given the fact that you can get an actual new Marshall 2203 these days, making the Ceriatone an even worse choice. Granted, this opinion is based on dollars and cents, but I think that takes priority in this particular case, given the fact that the JVM is very versatile and well-received amp.

Other than that, the Ceriatone does have good reviews by their customers. If it was a Jubilee repro, I'd have a harder time deciding, but a knockoff sold in a time where the real deal is still being manufactured is a hard pill to swallow when the other choice is a good amp.

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MonstersOfTheMidway

'Sup. A lot depends on how you will use the amps and the multi-effects unit. I've been searching for Ceriatone 2203 clone information from it's official website and from other posts, but I've not come up with anything solid. So, I'll talk a little about how a multi-effects could be used with a JVM.

A multi-effects unit can be used to control many aspects of a JVM. I have the JVM410H that is used with the Line 6 Floor Pod Plus (FPP). The FPP has MIDI in and MIDI thru, which can be used to control the JVM. I use the FPP to create patches in banks that allow me to select Channel, mode, master volume, reverb, and effects loop. For example, I have bank 1 footswitch A on the FPP set up as:
Clean/green + master volume 1 + reverb ON + FX loop ON (FPP Chorus ON)
All I have to do is step on footswitch A on the FPP and I instantly the sound I want. This set up eliminates having to step on several switches when using the JVM's six button footswitch.

You can have your banks set up according to your band's set list. For example, bank 1 presets could be set up as follow:
footswitch A (your rhythm tone)
footswitch B (your tone for the song's chorus)
footswitch C (your solo tone)
footswitch D (?)

Somen guys use their multi-effects unit just for effects, while other use it just for setting up presets to have several button engaged on the JVM. So, like I said, it really depends on how you want to use it. If you decide you don't want multi-effects, but you do want control over the JVM via MIDI, you can buy a simple MIDI footcontroller to help you do just this. Lost of guys love their floor pedals, but use a MIDI footcontroller to do all their switching.

Take some time to first decide what amplifier sounds best to you and then you will know what you can incorporate with the amp. Then, you will have a better idea of what you need (pedals, multi-effects, rack unit, etc), and how you will use it. Hope this helps. Good luck with your decision

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dodgethis

Thanks for the opinions, guys! Really leaning towards the JVM now.

@MOTM: This may sound a bit dumb but how well does the POD's amp modelling work with the JVM? Yes, I know that may be a bit offish but I was just curious on well the amp handles it.

wkcchampion

I don't know about the POD, but the Boss GT-10 preamps work very good in every amp's FX Loop I've tried so far... just by putting the output on LINE/PHONES (and NOT stack return!) and switching the Speakers sim OFF

MonstersOfTheMidway

Sup. The Line 6 FPP amp modeling is great for what it is. If you are ever asking an amp modeling unit to reproduce a certain amp or cabinet, you probably will be disappointed, because to my ears, I've never heard an amp modeling unit reproduce any amp very well. I use the amp modeling on the FFP as a backup to the JVM. The JVM has never gone down, but it's reassuring to know that all I have to do is plug the FPP direct into the house pa and I can continue a gig. I have tried using the FPP amp modeling through the JVM's clean channel with ok results, but I still like the sound of the JVM more than the FPP amp modeling through the JVM.

Hope this helps. Good luck with your decision.

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