MIDI help plzz - Page 2

carnada · 10-19-2009, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Wilder Amplification

If you only had the left side output from the G-Major hooked to the Left Return of the POD and no hookup on the right return from the right out on the G-Major, you'll only get signal going to the left side. You have to hook both the left and right outs from the G-Major to the left and right returns on the POD to get both headphones to work.

So this is how I got it hooked up.

Line 6 Effects loop Send---> G-Major Balanced Input(left MONO)

G-Major Balanced Output(left MONO)---> Line 6 Effects loop Return

Wilder Amplification · 10-19-2009, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by carnada

So this is how I got it hooked up.

Line 6 Effects loop Send---> G-Major Balanced Input(left MONO)

G-Major Balanced Output(left MONO)---> Line 6 Effects loop Return

Just looked in the manual for the POD Pro.

You need a special cable for the effects return. You have to have a 1/4" TRS (tip/ring/sleeve) that splits to two 1/4" mono plugs to get the stereo return to work. One of the mono plugs on this cable will be the "Tip" of the 1/4" TRS end, which goes to the Left out on the G-Major. The other 1/4" mono plug will be the "Ring" of the 1/4" TRS end, which will go to the Right output of the G-Major. The TRS end will go into the Return jack on the POD Pro.

carnada · 10-19-2009, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Wilder Amplification

Just looked in the manual for the POD Pro.

You need a special cable for the effects return. You have to have a 1/4" TRS (tip/ring/sleeve) that splits to two 1/4" mono plugs to get the stereo return to work.

there is only one return on the line 6 pod man

Wilder Amplification · 10-19-2009, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by carnada

there is only one return on the line 6 pod man

Just looked in the manual for the POD Pro.

You need a special cable for the effects return. You have to have a 1/4" TRS (tip/ring/sleeve) that splits to two 1/4" mono plugs to get the stereo return to work. One of the mono plugs on this cable will be the "Tip" of the 1/4" TRS end, which goes to the Left out on the G-Major. The other 1/4" mono plug will be the "Ring" of the 1/4" TRS end, which will go to the Right output of the G-Major. The TRS end will go into the Return jack on the POD Pro.

carnada · 10-19-2009, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Wilder Amplification

Just looked in the manual for the POD Pro.

You need a special cable for the effects return. You have to have a 1/4" TRS (tip/ring/sleeve) that splits to two 1/4" mono plugs to get the stereo return to work. One of the mono plugs on this cable will be the "Tip" of the 1/4" TRS end, which goes to the Left out on the G-Major. The other 1/4" mono plug will be the "Ring" of the 1/4" TRS end, which will go to the Right output of the G-Major. The TRS end will go into the Return jack on the POD Pro.

Is it possible you could make a little diagram with like the arrows or something man? Because im getting really confuzed dude. So where can I get a cable that divides in half like that?

Wilder Amplification · 10-19-2009, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by carnada

Is it possible you could make a little diagram with like the arrows or something man? Because im getting really confuzed dude. So where can I get a cable that divides in half like that?

Do you have a Guitar Center there in Canada?

It's also called an "insert" cable. Insert cables are what they use on PA mixers to patch effects into the insert jack on a mixer channel. You will need two of them...one for the send and one for the return.

You can also order them from Musician's Friend. Here's the link to what you need.

http://accessories.musiciansfriend.c...ble?sku=330898

carnada · 10-19-2009, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Wilder Amplification

Do you have a Guitar Center there in Canada?

It's also called an "insert" cable. Insert cables are what they use on PA mixers to patch effects into the insert jack on a mixer channel. You will need two of them...one for the send and one for the return.

You can also order them from Musician's Friend. Here's the link to what you need.

Buy Live Wire TRS(M)-Dual 1/4" Insert Cable | Instrument Cables | Musician's Friend

So I think I get it now...

So I need one of those cables to go from the SEND of the POD to the IN (left(mono) and right) of the g major, and then another cable to go from the RETURN of the POD to the OUT(left(mono) and right) of the G-major right???

But since this is only with headphones...How will it work with only one cabinet? because I dont have 2. Should I just make it all mono when playig with the cab? and if yes will the effects only come from one speaker???

Wilder Amplification · 10-19-2009, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by carnada

So I think I get it now...

So I need one of those cables to go from the SEND of the POD to the IN (left(mono) and right) of the g major, and then another cable to go from the RETURN of the POD to the OUT(left(mono) and right) of the G-major right???

But since this is only with headphones...How will it work with only one cabinet? because I dont have 2. Should I just make it all mono when playig with the cab? and if yes will the effects only come from one speaker???

Yes. If you look at the picture above, the hookup with that cable would be -

1st Insert Cable

Black End - Line 6 POD Pro Send

Grey End - G-Major Left Input

Red End - G-Major Right Input

2nd Insert Cable

Black End - Line 6 POD Pro Return

Grey End - G-Major Left Out

Red End - G-Major Right Out

The black end on both always goes in the POD Pro, be it the Send or the Return. The Grey is the left and Red is the right.

To run stereo when running your cab, you'd need two amps and two cabs, or two amp heads and a 1960 cab with stereo switching to split the speakers between the two amps.

For your current setup, you'd run stereo through your headphones, then run mono through your amps. No, the amp runs through all speakers...so will the effects. You would just use the left output from the POD Pro into the amp.

carnada · 10-19-2009, 08:26 PM

So Just to clarify lol!

So when running it with my cab without using all the weird stereo shit, I will just go

POD SEND--->G-major(left mono in)---G-major(left mono out)--->POD RETURN

I will just use the stereo cables so I can practice with my headphones and program stuff while im at home without using the cab you know? does this sound right?

Wilder Amplification · 10-19-2009, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by carnada

So Just to clarify lol!

So when running it with my cab without using all the weird stereo shit, I will just go

POD SEND--->G-major(left mono in)---G-major(left mono out)--->POD RETURN

I will just use the stereo cables so I can practice with my headphones and program stuff while im at home without using the cab you know? does this sound right?

That's correct.

BTW...is that the POD Pro, or the POD XT Pro?

carnada · 10-19-2009, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Wilder Amplification

That's correct.

BTW...is that the POD Pro, or the POD XT Pro?

its the PODpro its a little less better(to not say worse) than the XT pro lol

Line 6 - Products

I must say its pretty damn good for what I do. Im not really looking for a hard rock tone. Im looking into pure smooth distortion

Wilder Amplification · 10-19-2009, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by carnada

its the PODpro its a little less better(to not say worse) than the XT pro lol

Line 6 - Products

I must say its pretty damn good for what I do. Im not really looking for a hard rock tone. Im looking into pure smooth distortion

OK...can't really see the front panel too well, but does it have a "blend" or a "mix" control for the FX loop?

carnada · 10-19-2009, 08:49 PM

No, it doesnt not have a blend in knob or anything that controls the effects loop

Wilder Amplification · 10-19-2009, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by carnada

No, it doesnt not have a blend in knob or anything that controls the effects loop

Ok then you'll have to use the Dry/Wet setting on the G-Major to control your effects blend. If you had a blend control on the POD, you'd set the G-Major up 100% wet and set the blend on the POD, but since that's not the case, you'll use the one on the G-Major instead.

carnada · 10-19-2009, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Wilder Amplification

Ok then you'll have to use the Dry/Wet setting on the G-Major to control your effects blend. If you had a blend control on the POD, you'd set the G-Major up 100% wet and set the blend on the POD, but since that's not the case, you'll use the one on the G-Major instead.

I need to learn how to use the G-major, its pretty fucking complex, tons of lights flashing and shit like that

HOT TUBES 70 · 10-19-2009, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by carnada

I need to learn how to use the G-major, its pretty fucking complex, tons of lights flashing and shit like that

LOL !!! hang on , its going to get worse before it gets better .
those flashing lights will put you into a trance , don't look at
them too long eh !!

on the bright side (no pun intended !!) these guys are steering you
in the right direction , you'll be rock'in in no time ....
like playin guitar , spend some time with it , it will take a bit to get
your head around it .

" USE THE FORCE LUKE " !!!!

carnada · 10-19-2009, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by HOT TUBES 70

LOL !!! hang on , its going to get worse before it gets better .
those flashing lights will put you into a trance , don't look at
them too long eh !!

on the bright side (no pun intended !!) these guys are steering you
in the right direction , you'll be rock'in in no time ....
like playin guitar , spend some time with it , it will take a bit to get
your head around it .

" USE THE FORCE LUKE " !!!!

I still havent plugged in the actual MIDI pedal haha im tooo scared. Like, I dont know how im gonna create all the fucking patches with the g major and Line 6, and then put it all together with the pedal you know? thats gonna take me quiet a while.

Any help is appreciated my friends!

the funny thing, is that my name is Luciano, and people call me LUC, LUKE!

HOT TUBES 70 · 10-20-2009, 12:33 AM

thats fuckin crazy man !!! LOL !!

i can remember my first multi f/x unit , when i powered it up i thought oh may god , what have i got my self into . the biggest thing is to not let it get you down , take it
slow and calm , small steps and soon you'll have it down to a science ...

for a young guy , your gonna have a nice rig !!!

Wilder Amplification · 10-20-2009, 12:54 AM

Never let the machine outsmart the man.

Here's a tip since I used to use a G-Major with a Marshall JMP-1. Each effect has its own front panel access button. If you want to change the settings of a particular effect, double press the button in quick succession (just like double clicking on a mouse) and wala! You're in the settings menu for that effect.

Pressing the button once (single clicking) toggles that effect on and off.

carnada · 10-20-2009, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Wilder Amplification

Never let the machine outsmart the man.

Here's a tip since I used to use a G-Major with a Marshall JMP-1. Each effect has its own front panel access button. If you want to change the settings of a particular effect, double press the button in quick succession (just like double clicking on a mouse) and wala! You're in the settings menu for that effect.

Pressing the button once (single clicking) toggles that effect on and off.

aHHH! there we go! Im gonna try that, I have only been pressing the botton once, which turns it on and off. But I can only find delays in my gmajor! I WANT SOME MORE CHORUS!!!!

And today while reading my pod manual, I found that it has a cab simulator option! so im gonna try that too lol

Wilder Amplification · 10-20-2009, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by carnada

aHHH! there we go! Im gonna try that, I have only been pressing the botton once, which turns it on and off. But I can only find delays in my gmajor! I WANT SOME MORE CHORUS!!!!

And today while reading my pod manual, I found that it has a cab simulator option! so im gonna try that too lol

Press the Chorus button once to turn it on and off. Double click it to get into the chorus menu.

carnada · 10-20-2009, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Wilder Amplification

Press the Chorus button once to turn it on and off. Double click it to get into the chorus menu.

yeah, because right now im only seeing the delay menu. But I have to spend some time with the g-major.

I also noticed that I was losing a little bit of tone when using the g-major. For example my notes wont be as clear and they wont last that much?

Wilder Amplification · 10-20-2009, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by carnada

yeah, because right now im only seeing the delay menu. But I have to spend some time with the g-major.

I also noticed that I was losing a little bit of tone when using the g-major. For example my notes wont be as clear and they wont last that much?

Sounds like you have the effects mix parameter in the G-Major up a bit too high. Also you may need to play with the input and output level controls on the G-Major so that the levels are matched between having the processor active and bypassed.

carnada · 10-20-2009, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Wilder Amplification

Sounds like you have the effects mix parameter in the G-Major up a bit too high. Also you may need to play with the input and output level controls on the G-Major so that the levels are matched between having the processor active and bypassed.

im gonna have to work on that!

Wilder Amplification · 10-20-2009, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by carnada

im gonna have to work on that!

Yeah MIDI takes a learning curve and lots of playing around with the gear. But once you have it down it becomes second nature.

carnada · 10-20-2009, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Wilder Amplification

Yeah MIDI takes a learning curve and lots of playing around with the gear. But once you have it down it becomes second nature.

yeah, I actually think im quiet young to already have a pretty pro rig dont ya think? Im 17 lol.

HOT TUBES 70 · 10-20-2009, 11:11 PM

17 !!!!! yikes kid !! i would say so .....
i know guys who have been playing as long as you have been alive who
would kill for your gear !
fuck i like what you have !!!

carnada · 10-21-2009, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by HOT TUBES 70

17 !!!!! yikes kid !! i would say so .....
i know guys who have been playing as long as you have been alive who
would kill for your gear !
fuck i like what you have !!!

YES! finaly some people that start liking my shit haha! I was always the one with the crap sounding amp, and now look whos da boosssss

and im getting a stereo mesa boogie 50/50 power amp this week

thrawn86 · 10-21-2009, 12:41 AM

Like everyone's tellin' ya Luc, you're gonna have a rig to envy after you get the kinks ironed out.

Wilder Amplification · 10-21-2009, 12:58 AM

OK...now this is funny. You come onto a Marshall amplifier forum...in the Marshall Amps section...seeking advice on how to work with MIDI of all things...yet you not only seem not to own or use any piece of Marshall gear AND you're going with a Mesa power amp. Too funny.

Just to let ya know...unless you have a cab that can be split stereo like the Marshall 1960 cabs, or 2 independent cabs, you will not be in stereo.

And lest we forget...I'm not saying Luc can't play...I've never heard him so I have no idea. But lest we forget...the rig don't mean shit if the owner can't play for shit. IMHO it takes a skilled player to get a great sound out of minimal gear, and it's much more impressive to me when a player can get a great sound out of just a cranked Super Lead with nothing but the amp, the guitar, and the player, rather than a person who can sound decent with gear that does all the work for him. The whole "rig wars" of "how big is your rig" is nothing more than "penis envy" and means absolutely nothing if the player who owns it either can't figure out how to use it or can't play worth a damn through it. If you can't play no amount of multieffects or gear is going to save you, and can actually work against you.

Don't get me wrong, MIDI and multieffects are great tools and definitely have their place. However, 'tis not the gear that makes the player sound good, it's the player that makes the gear sound good. Just like owning a soldering iron and a DMM doesn't make you an amplifier/gear tech, just because you have a badass rig doesn't make you a pro player...it just means either you or your parents have money.

Also, what good is it to have gear that makes you have to get a masters in rocket science to learn how to use?

10-19-2009, 08:26 PM	#39 (permalink)
carnada Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: 22 Acacia Avenue Posts: 664	Re: MIDI help plzz So Just to clarify lol! So when running it with my cab without using all the weird stereo shit, I will just go POD SEND--->G-major(left mono in)---G-major(left mono out)--->POD RETURN I will just use the stereo cables so I can practice with my headphones and program stuff while im at home without using the cab you know? does this sound right?

10-19-2009, 08:49 PM	#43 (permalink)
carnada Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: 22 Acacia Avenue Posts: 664	Re: MIDI help plzz No, it doesnt not have a blend in knob or anything that controls the effects loop

10-20-2009, 12:33 AM	#48 (permalink)
HOT TUBES 70 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: SASKATOON Posts: 1,675	Re: MIDI help plzz thats fuckin crazy man !!! LOL !! i can remember my first multi f/x unit , when i powered it up i thought oh may god , what have i got my self into . the biggest thing is to not let it get you down , take it slow and calm , small steps and soon you'll have it down to a science ... for a young guy , your gonna have a nice rig !!! __________________ MARSHALL 6100LM MARSHALL 1960A W/-G12H 30's CUSTOM BUILT 2X12 W/-V30's "MARSHALL" - only the best will do !

10-20-2009, 11:11 PM	#57 (permalink)
HOT TUBES 70 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: SASKATOON Posts: 1,675	Re: MIDI help plzz 17 !!!!! yikes kid !! i would say so ..... i know guys who have been playing as long as you have been alive who would kill for your gear ! fuck i like what you have !!! __________________ MARSHALL 6100LM MARSHALL 1960A W/-G12H 30's CUSTOM BUILT 2X12 W/-V30's "MARSHALL" - only the best will do !

10-21-2009, 12:41 AM	#59 (permalink)
thrawn86 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Far Nor Cal USA Posts: 426	Re: MIDI help plzz Like everyone's tellin' ya Luc, you're gonna have a rig to envy after you get the kinks ironed out. __________________ Drivin' faster in my car... 02 DSL 401-Ei's 02 1960b 02 Gibson LP Studio Silver 03 PRS Santana SE Holy Grail reverb Originally Posted by J. Robert Oppenheimer "We knew the world would not be the same."

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