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Winged =C='s are a great pick but a bit more expensive. Their overall reputation is they are a durable CP great sounding power tube. I'm running these right now. My RFT's(NOS)are a bit warmer and have really nice mids and highs that aren't harsh but I wanted to give them a rest while I hammer the Winged =C='s some more.
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I just didn't like em'.
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I don't think the Svetlanas are all that bad. My GTEL34M's are drifting like crazy and starting to scare me. I had a pair of Svetlanas handy, so that's what went in. They are a little thin, but the bass boost helped that. I've got the bass and mids on 10 and the treble on 6 or 7 and it sounds pretty good. I've gotten to where I don't even touch the presence control any more. I've really never been in a situation where I needed it with the DSL. Hopefully I'll have some RFT EL34's in it soon and then I won't have to worry about CP tubes for awhile.
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Yeah, but the bottom line is you shouldn't have to use that much bass EQ. You should get some of it naturally from the power tubes.
Like a set of RFT's.
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I've been living in red channel land for the last week or so. I've been trying out some Tungsram ECC83's I'm selling on eBay, making sure they aren't noisy and can handle the gain. They are a strange lot of tubes - Marty tested them way high, but in the DSL they aren't as high gain as my RCA/RFT combination. Not bad sounding, though. I think I developed a distaste for them when I was using them in my old Laney. The more I think about it, that amp was probably needing a cap job pretty bad - I kept blaming the thin, no-bottom-end tone on tubes.
Back to the EQ, I can get a decent JCM800 tone out of the red channel on Ultra Gain 1 with the gain at about 1 o'clock, but it's bright... that's the main reason for the weird settings. I may have a little presence dialed in - I don't really remember. If I'm on the green channel, it's more like 6-6-6. And yes, the bass boost is definitely working. I haven't been able to crank the amp for a few days, and it sounds better with the bass boost at low volume. If I wasn't stuck at the office, I could have had the house to myself for a couple of hours today. That's usually the way it works out. Hey, I forgot to mention: I found a treasure the other day. My wife was going through some old clothes that we had put away in rubbermaid containers years ago (seems like we never throw anything away). She found a Marshall t-shirt that I had gotten at the NAMM show in 2000. It was autographed by Jim Marshall and had the "new" JTM45 RI on the front. That brings my total to 3. For some reason, I didn't even remember having that shirt.
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I wouldn't mind having a JTM45 RI 30 watter. Nice frigg'n amp! Cool on the shirt man.
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Yeah Joe, just by the shirt off of RATT and save yourself some $$$.
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A while back I was interested in changing my EL84's, since I got my amp used and thought I should perhaps, but saw no reason as they were in excellent condition.
I know Marty chimed in and suggested Ei tubes, and after I gave mine a looksee, that's exactly what I have. I like the sound I have, so does anyone else have an opinion on these? (All I'm running are the original preamp tubes btw)
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Matched Pairs, Brand New, MINT NOS NIB 1966-1970 Funkwerk RFT EL84 Tubes. East German Production. These welded plate tubes are more desirable than the later stapled plate RFT's. No opine on the EI's though.
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Yeah, I'll make you a deal, but you'll have to change your name to "Alan" (or "Melanie" if you want my wife's shirt).
I think I know why I didn't remember that shirt. I remember going to the NAMM show in Nashville one year when I was very sick. I made it through it thanks to a large bottle of high-octane cough syrup and a coffee booth that was selling espresso. You ever been so f'ed up you could barely stand up and so wired you couldn't lay down? |
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Those Ei's aren't going to last forever, so I recommend that you start looking around now for a possible deal on a set of tubes. ARS is still selling Ei EL84's. Call them for a price on four. If it's too high, then I would recommend watching EBAY and snagging a set on NOS tubes. ARS Electronics - Audio Catalog Page
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To my ear they have a nice mid section but as the volume increases the high end overpowers it. Creating an insanely harsh tone.
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Its either the JTM or a 3 Monkeys Grease Monkey. The JTM's cheaper. <--- Look! Triple 8! Do I win a JTM45?
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You might want to take a serious look at Ceriatone. They get a bad rep from the cork-sniffers, but a good friend of mine is a customer of theirs. I've never heard a bad sound come from one of his amps. His Plexi50 (1987) is the voice of God.
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I know about these and you are right. I continue to hear good reviews about them. I would love to hear that Plexi50 in person. Love them Plexi tones.
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I'm actually undecided right now. I rushed into my last tube purchases. I think I'm going to keep the JJ's in the pre amp for now, get some more mileage. But the EL34's have gotta go. I'm researching around....
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hey guys i have a vintage modern 2266c 50watt
preampvalves- 4x ecc83 powerampvalves- 2x kt66 speakers-2x g12c Now for my dilemma... I want that Marshall 1960Dave Mustaine Sig. amp sound. I feel i do not have enough experience with tubes to make an educated decision on this, so i am asking for a recommendation of real high quality/quality-sounding tubes to replace all of the existing factory ones in my 2266. |
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Hey I've been looking around allot im not sure what genuine NOS tubes really are. Because there seems to be so many variants claiming NOS, Sovtek, Brimar, made in england made in russia made in germany... its rather confusing. also which would be of higher quality the ones made pre 1990's or post 1990's?
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Now the other thing. Your amp runs KT66's. You would probably get closer to Dave's sound with EL34's. Now there are some important variables here. One is current draw of the heaters in the power tubes. The KT's pull less than the EL34's. Using EL34's could cause the power transformer to run warmer. The only thing I could safely recommend is a pair of NOS Sylvania Fat Boy 6L6GC's. These have more bottom end than a regular 6L6. However, they still sound like a 6L6 and are not going to give you that EL34 sound. I look at it this way. You bought the VM, because you liked how it sounded. Right? Well then you must like the KT66 sound over the EL34 sound and that's not a bad thing. KT66's have their own distinct sound. Now the two things that you can do to quickly change your amp's sound is changing at least the gain preamp tubes with NOS and also your speakers. This is a complete column on its own and I will be brief. Almost all guitar speakers are "colored." That is, they have peaks and dips in their frequency response that give the speaker its distinct sound. In some of my cabinets, I use high quality Mid PA speakers. These are very flat and neutral sounding. You can add more bottom end to an amp by changing the preamp tubes, but you can also do it by changing over to say V30's. If you want the most bottom end, you change both. Most Marshall's are bright. There are speakers out there that will mellow the top end and still have a nice round bottom and mids. Since this is off topic, that is all I will say. The real NOS era ended around 1988, but in my books it was 1984. Regardless, NOS or ANOS (Almost New Old Stock) tubes date from the 40's to the 80's. To me, the best one's where made in the late 50's to the mid 70's. For your amp, you would want a slightly hot V1 and a high gain V2. I would say an Amperex in V1 and a Raytheon Black Plate in V2. I would also recommend that you read up on some of the posts in the Preamp thread. If you have anymore preamp tube questions, please post there as this is a power tube thread.
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I scored a pair of Sylvania Fat Boy 6CA7's. They could be STR tubes. The seller wasn't a tube person and knew very little about them. I got them for less than $70. When they get here, I will know for sure what they are.
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Welcome aboard Custom53.
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I want to let the Aussie's on this thread know that there is a major tube seller on EBAY from Perth. He has been on EBAY for about three months or so, selling some really nice pre and power tubes. His user name is: angst46.
Look him up and then check out his auctions. Time to get some smokin toobs.
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