JCM800 2204, 2210, or a Marshall Major?

Twinky_Bomb · 07-03-2009, 01:08 AM

Okay, here's the scoop. I'm playing on a 1962 Stratocaster, and I mainly play John Frusciante, SRV, and Jimi Hendrix. Now I'm trying to decide if I should get a 2204, or 2210 or a Marshall Major. I know I can't get the exact tone for all three artists with one amp, but which amp would be most versitile?

If you have an answer, please explain why or why I shouldn't get this amp.

P.S. I mainly go for the live sounds on John Frusciante, not studio as the studio is way too hard and expensive to rig up. For example, which would get me the tone at live at Slane? I know JF uses a Silver Jub and a Major, but those two are a little out of the question right now as my tree hasn't produced that much money..sadface.

PaoloJM · 07-03-2009, 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Twinky_Bomb

Okay, here's the scoop. I'm playing on a 1962 Stratocaster, and I mainly play John Frusciante, SRV, and Jimi Hendrix. Now I'm trying to decide if I should get a 2204, or 2210 or a Marshall Major. I know I can't get the exact tone for all three artists with one amp, but which amp would be most versitile?

If you have an answer, please explain why or why I shouldn't get this amp.

P.S. I mainly go for the live sounds on John Frusciante, not studio as the studio is way too hard and expensive to rig up. For example, which would get me the tone at live at Slane? I know JF uses a Silver Jub and a Major, but those two are a little out of the question right now as my tree hasn't produced that much money..sadface.

If it was me, I'd be looking more towards the 1959/1987 NMV type amps.
Frusciante, Hendrix and SRV have that just-breaking-up tone which the 1959 type circuit does great when paired with a strat.
The problem here will be sheer volume. To get "that" tone with 1959 type circuit it gets loud!! You need to pair it with an attenuator of some description.
The 2204 is a little to hard sounding (especially with a strat) and gainy for those tones IMO.
You've mentioned the silver jub and major are out of question, but unfortunaltely a 1959/1987 will be a bit pricey too, even the RIs.

What is your price limit?

jcmjmp · 07-03-2009, 09:13 AM

2204.

The Marshall Major is just stupid loud. You'll never get to really use it to its full potential.

American Viking · 07-03-2009, 11:54 AM

2204 or like paolo said, the Non master volume version the 1987

dmnall · 07-03-2009, 02:39 PM

I would agree with American Viking, jcmcmp or paolo.. Plus I will add the Marshall Major is not only expensive but if anything else is wrong is very expensive. Plus the Majors do not have the traditional Marshall tone, think of a Fender Twin Reverb *minuis reverb* on steroids and they need to be modded with a master volume to be even remotely playable!

Cheers,
Charlie

Twinky_Bomb · 07-04-2009, 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by PaoloJM

If it was me, I'd be looking more towards the 1959/1987 NMV type amps.
Frusciante, Hendrix and SRV have that just-breaking-up tone which the 1959 type circuit does great when paired with a strat.
The problem here will be sheer volume. To get "that" tone with 1959 type circuit it gets loud!! You need to pair it with an attenuator of some description.
The 2204 is a little to hard sounding (especially with a strat) and gainy for those tones IMO.
You've mentioned the silver jub and major are out of question, but unfortunaltely a 1959/1987 will be a bit pricey too, even the RIs.

What is your price limit?

What's NMV?

Well, I'm not really sure what my price range is, I'm just considering all options right now, cause I know either way if I want a good amp I'm going to have to save. Maybe someone could give me some prices on these amps?

Twinky_Bomb · 07-04-2009, 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by dmnall

I would agree with American Viking, jcmcmp or paolo.. Plus I will add the Marshall Major is not only expensive but if anything else is wrong is very expensive. Plus the Majors do not have the traditional Marshall tone, think of a Fender Twin Reverb *minuis reverb* on steroids and they need to be modded with a master volume to be even remotely playable!

Cheers,
Charlie

Did the Major not have a master volume..correct?

Twinky_Bomb · 07-04-2009, 02:18 AM

By the way, sorry if some of my questions sound stupid..I've done all my research into guitars, so i havnt got to learn as much in amps as id like yet, but i am working on it.

Rypsolisti · 07-04-2009, 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Twinky_Bomb

What's NMV?

Non Master Volume.

Twinky_Bomb · 07-04-2009, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Rypsolisti

Non Master Volume.

Haa, easy enough. Why do yall suggest nmv?

dmnall · 07-05-2009, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Twinky_Bomb

Did the Major not have a master volume..correct?

Twinky Bomb,
Majors were a non master volume model and you would need to modify it to have a Master Volume. I had an 71 Major that was modded with a Master Volume and it tamed it down but I needed more High Gain which is why I am running a jcm900 sl-x

Cheers,
Charlie

07-03-2009, 01:08 AM	#1 (permalink)
Twinky_Bomb Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 14	JCM800 2204, 2210, or a Marshall Major? Okay, here's the scoop. I'm playing on a 1962 Stratocaster, and I mainly play John Frusciante, SRV, and Jimi Hendrix. Now I'm trying to decide if I should get a 2204, or 2210 or a Marshall Major. I know I can't get the exact tone for all three artists with one amp, but which amp would be most versitile? If you have an answer, please explain why or why I shouldn't get this amp. P.S. I mainly go for the live sounds on John Frusciante, not studio as the studio is way too hard and expensive to rig up. For example, which would get me the tone at live at Slane? I know JF uses a Silver Jub and a Major, but those two are a little out of the question right now as my tree hasn't produced that much money..sadface.

07-03-2009, 09:13 AM	#3 (permalink)
jcmjmp Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 1,217	Re: JCM800 2204, 2210, or a Marshall Major? 2204. The Marshall Major is just stupid loud. You'll never get to really use it to its full potential.

07-03-2009, 11:54 AM	#4 (permalink)
American Viking Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: RICHMOND, VIRGINIA Posts: 1,420	Re: JCM800 2204, 2210, or a Marshall Major? 2204 or like paolo said, the Non master volume version the 1987 __________________ -I'd rather be a good liver than have one...

07-03-2009, 02:39 PM	#5 (permalink)
dmnall Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 204	Re: JCM800 2204, 2210, or a Marshall Major? I would agree with American Viking, jcmcmp or paolo.. Plus I will add the Marshall Major is not only expensive but if anything else is wrong is very expensive. Plus the Majors do not have the traditional Marshall tone, think of a Fender Twin Reverb minuis reverb on steroids and they need to be modded with a master volume to be even remotely playable! Cheers, Charlie __________________ Charlie Amps 1994 Marshall JCM900 2100 SL-X 100 watt Head Genz Benz 4x12 cab 4x 75 watt celestion speakers Line6 Spider 3 30 watt with 1x 12 celestion and FBV Express Pedal late night practice amp* Guitars 1985 Fender Stratocaster '62 reissue Fiesta Red 2006 Gibson Les Paul Studio Alpine White Gold HW 2005 ESP LTD MHB400 Black Baritone 1992 Jackson Professional Rhoads Pro Dark M. Blue 2006 Martin D16 GT

07-04-2009, 02:18 AM	#8 (permalink)
Twinky_Bomb Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 14	Re: JCM800 2204, 2210, or a Marshall Major? By the way, sorry if some of my questions sound stupid..I've done all my research into guitars, so i havnt got to learn as much in amps as id like yet, but i am working on it.

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