Satriani goes JVM 410H - Page 2

j2112c · 03-09-2010, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by MartyStrat54

I want to sound like me, not somebody else. I don't buy sig amps or guitars.

Yes! I never buy them either. Agreed! In addition... it does not matter whos' set up you copy or have a go of... you always end up sounding like you... it is in the hands like handwriting... and some of us are doomed to bad handwriting!

HOT TUBES 70 · 03-09-2010, 06:01 PM

It seems most of his latest video shows he's using the JSX amps Live , at least thats what i have seen . But you bring a good point ....he could play a CRATE and make it sound damn good !! LOL !!

hacksaw · 03-09-2010, 06:11 PM

When Chickenfoot came to our area, I scoped out the stage and the FOH board.. all JVM210H amps. They rocked.

xrlnt6 · 03-09-2010, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by j2112c

Yes! I never buy them either. Agreed! In addition... it does not matter whos' set up you copy or have a go of... you always end up sounding like you... it is in the hands like handwriting... and some of us are doomed to bad handwriting!

so very true

HOT TUBES 70 · 03-09-2010, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by hacksaw

When Chickenfoot came to our area, I scoped out the stage and the FOH board.. all JVM210H amps. They rocked.

And i bet he made them sound great !!!
The guy flat out rocks !!

RICHIE GRIMES · 03-04-2011, 08:55 PM

YouTube - Rig Rundown - Joe Satriani

Gblev · 03-05-2011, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by hmstrat

No offense, but all of these "signature series" amps are a joke... Contrary to what they want us to believe, the circuits on signature series amps vary very little - if any at all - from regular stock models of that same amp. Why pay extra for some guy's signature on the front and a slightly different bias on the tubes? Gibson and Fender have been running that hustle for years... Remember, Jimi played a regular old Strat; just like SRV did... Marshall amps are already expensive enough - without paying more for one to get Satriani's last name is inked on the front... Trust me on this: "You will not sound anymore like Satriani now by playing thru a Marshall than you did by playing thru a Peavey..."

I don't know where you get that the sig. amps are more expensive than the regular stock, because a Marshall Plexi 1959SLP 100W sells new for $2349 (USD), where the AFD is selling for $1999 (USD.) Sigs look to be about the same or a little cheaper, when compared to a model of equal stature, not to mention a it's a limited edition. The JCM Slash still holds pretty good value.

AudioWonderland · 03-06-2011, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by steelhorse

He had it going on with the 6100 and should have struck a deal back before he signed with Peavey and maybe he tried but Peavey made him a better offer, but it also looks like he's trolling for the better deal here folks. It's obvious he's about endorsements and a few of his products are pretty lame imo in fact the JSX is about the only thing 'signature' of his that I've personally tried that I actually like, all the rest, meh.

You can get the same thing cheaper or better that doesn't have his red color or sig on it.

imo...

I am sure he will keep that in mind when you are paying his bills....

Its called a business for a reason.

nuke · 03-06-2011, 08:41 AM

Contrary to what people may believe Marshall does not pay artists to use their amps, they never have. They may offer them the amps at a great price but they also do not "give" any of their amps away for free, they never have.

The signature amps are built in very limited quantities and are not very profitable for Marshall, but they recognize on a worldwide scale the market for the amps. From where you sit it may not make sense but we don't see all the data they do on worldwide demand.

I very much disagree that these signature amps are basically the same as a production model, look at amps like the AFD and YJM or even the 1959RR, very different. I suspect you will see all these artist amps come to a end soon, but we will also see some of the best amps Marshall has ever built hitting the market within two years, they are very good at keeping things quite.

Australian · 03-06-2011, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by AudioWonderland

I am sure he will keep that in mind when you are paying his bills....

Its called a business for a reason.

Even famous guitarists GAS for new amps.

yladrd61 · 03-20-2011, 04:41 AM

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Originally Posted by MartyStrat54

I agree with you 100 per cent and maybe I didn't make myself clear. I was just stating the fact that when you pull a celeb in like Satriani, if your Marshall, you just don't stand around with your hands in your pockets. They want to use the guy as a marketing tool. That's what they are paying him for. I agree that sig amps are a farce and not just Marshall's. Like you said, Gibson and Fender are doing it to with their sig guitars and charging a bundle. The Johnny Winters Firebird is off the hook...over 7 G's for a weathered, beat up replica. Note: I want to sound like me, not somebody else. I don't buy sig amps or guitars.

Marty

Yeah Signature models are a joke. But if you have ever seen Johnnny Winter play Highway 61 on his real '64 Gibson Firebird. There ain't nothing like the real thing !!! He may have to sit in a chair now but he is still Muddy Waters' albino son !!!

JayCM800 · 03-20-2011, 10:13 AM

Ok, but when there's talk of "joke" "cheap" signature heads don't leave the 2203KK out!!

JCM800 2203ZW
JCM 2255 SL
JCM800 2203KK
AFD100
YJM100

There! I want one of each please, thank you!

Sir Don · 03-21-2011, 12:42 AM

I play the JS1200 Ibanez, it's one of the best guitars I've ever played!

bhm1905 · 03-21-2011, 01:15 AM

its simple joe satriani one of the best guitarists of all time goes back to marshall the best amp maker of all time ,its simple really

Classic 59 · 09-22-2011, 09:21 PM

Any news on his signature series amp?

MonstersOfTheMidway · 09-23-2011, 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Classic 59

Any news on his signature series amp?

Some time next year, or perhaps preorders in mid december but that's really just a guess. You could email marshall and ask them when marketing will begin for the Satch JVM (it doesn't hurt to ask, and you may actually receive that information.

You might also try asking Santiago Alvarez, since he is the person designing the Satch amp (he's a busy guy, but he sometimes drops by.

You can also try looking at Satriani's website for hints. Many times, the release of a new signature series amplifier will coincide with the release of a new album (either a Satch record or a Chickenfoot record.

A few other signature Marshalls coming out next year, too. Until then, keep saving up.

Blisster · 09-23-2011, 01:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hmstrat

No offense, but all of these "signature series" amps are a joke... Contrary to what they want us to believe, the circuits on signature series amps vary very little - if any at all - from regular stock models of that same amp. Why pay extra for some guy's signature on the front and a slightly different bias on the tubes? Gibson and Fender have been running that hustle for years... Remember, Jimi played a regular old Strat; just like SRV did... Marshall amps are already expensive enough - without paying more for one to get Satriani's last name is inked on the front... Trust me on this: "You will not sound anymore like Satriani now by playing thru a Marshall than you did by playing thru a Peavey..."

I disagree in the case of the 2203KK. Its a true re-issue of the very same amp Kerry King has been using for 20+ years to get his signature tone.
The AFD and the YJM may be different stories however.

big dooley · 09-23-2011, 03:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Blisster

I disagree in the case of the 2203KK. Its a true re-issue of the very same amp Kerry King has been using for 20+ years to get his signature tone.
The AFD and the YJM may be different stories however.

the satriani JVM has a circuit, that is different from the original JVM... and not only by a couple resistors or capacitors...

as for AFD and YJM... they simply made what the artist wanted... as with the satch JVM and the 2203KK... this is what a sig is all about...

Classic 59 · 09-25-2011, 07:30 AM

Santiago was kind enough to send me this link awhile back.

http://licklibrary.ceros.com/iguitar...sue2/page/102/

I am really looking forward to the final product.

MonstersOfTheMidway · 09-25-2011, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Classic 59

Santiago was kind enough to send me this link awhile back.

iGuitar Magazine Issue 2

I am really looking forward to the final product.

Interesting:
choke
Modified power supply.
Less gain than the JVM on some channels.
6100-based clean channel
AFD100-based mode for in the crunch channel
2203KK-based noise gate
possible other tweaks?

MadIrishman · 09-26-2011, 02:22 PM

Satriani talks about his signature model in this months Guitarist magazine from the UK.

JS: "The star of this record was the prototype of a version of the Marshall JVM410 that (engineer) Santiago Alvarez made for me, which is going to be a signature model. Channels 4, 3, and 2, are totally unique now, but channel 1 is mode 1, which is now more like the original Marshall 30th Anniversary 6100 at my request."

Guitarist issue 346 ? on sale now! | Guitarist | MusicRadar.com

MonstersOfTheMidway · 09-26-2011, 06:44 PM

The more I read about Satch's signature "JVM," the more I realize it is true that it isn't really gonna be a "true" JVM since he is incorporating tonal characteristics of the 6100 and AFD 100. Satch's signature Marshall will create quite a buzz, but from what I'm now reading, I doubt I'll even give it a play at the music stores (I'm more interested in the 50th anniversary amp and the new zakk wylde signature.

If Marshall would consider doing this, I would be interested in purchasing another JVM with the stock features but with at least one of the following added features:

1. noise gate similar to JCM 800 2203KK and YJM 100
2. EPA similar to YJM100 and AFD 100
3. Adjustable external bias similar to YJM100 and AFD 100
4. Faulty valve alert system with LEDs similar to YJM100 and AFD 100

Though I haven't seen the finished Satriani Marshall, I think I'd rather have a new JVM with one of these added features instead.

Classic 59 · 12-22-2011, 10:14 PM

Any updates? This is going to be one amazing amp...

alvagoldbook · 12-23-2011, 12:16 AM

Aw hell. And I was about to buy a JVM. I can't now, knowing a douche like Satriani plays one.

CAPDUNN · 12-23-2011, 01:39 AM

He loves and uses the 6100 channel. The other features are icing on the Cake!

trigmachine · 12-23-2011, 04:39 AM

regardless of what Satch plays through he's gonna sound like Satch be it Peavey or Marshall i shoukd imagine its nothing more than fancying a change with the added insentive of some cash!

spacerocker · 12-23-2011, 07:09 AM

Sounds like it is going to be a very interesting amp!

I have to laugh when I think of the amount of flaming I received on certain forums, for complaining that the JVM is too compressed and tight sounding, didn't sound "classic" enough on the crunch channels, and didn't feel "dynamic" enough for me...Consequently, I carried out several mods suggested by people here and elsewhere (and sometimes Santiago himself) to get the amp to sound and play how I wanted...

Now, a couple of years later, we have Joe saying that he wants the amp modded for a more classic sound, wants a bit less gain on the OD channels, and wants the amp to be more dynamic, and suddenly, everyone thinks these changes are cool

Seriously, though apart from the lack of built in reverb, (if that happens on the production amps) - the JS sig JVM sounds fantastic, and a lot closer to what I wanted in the first place!

spacerocker · 12-23-2011, 07:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Classic 59

Santiago was kind enough to send me this link awhile back.

iGuitar Magazine Issue 2 Joe Satriani

I am really looking forward to the final product.

Very interesting feature. Santiago is obviously a very knowlegable and articulate guy.

But I always find it helps, when listening to someone with quite a strong Spanish accent - to have a wailing guitar sound-track blasting away in the background!

carrots · 12-23-2011, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by radiomatts

Okay, here's what I don't get. I saw a video from Premiere Guitar where Satriani and his tech talk in different videos about his gear with Chickenfoot. In both instances and in You Tube videos, he's using the Satchurator pedal into his Peavey's

This news from Marshall must be REALLY new. Begs to ask the question though...betcha that Satchurator pedal is on his pedal board, but why if you're using either a Marshall JVM or his Peavey?

I've never understood why you'd use a distortion pedal with an amp capable of all that gain.

I like the sach pedal........ Been using it for about 2 years.

Also Joe is working on a Marshall amp that will be releases with his stamp on it this coming year. Its a JVM with some teakes. Theirs a video of him talking about it on you tube.

drybone · 12-23-2011, 11:31 AM

I posted pics of his touring rig from last year, front and back.

03-09-2010, 06:01 PM	#32 (permalink)
HOT TUBES 70 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Saskatoon , Canada Posts: 8,798	Re: Satriani goes JVM 410H It seems most of his latest video shows he's using the JSX amps Live , at least thats what i have seen . But you bring a good point ....he could play a CRATE and make it sound damn good !! LOL !! __________________ Custom pedals Pedal modifications

03-09-2010, 06:11 PM	#33 (permalink)
hacksaw Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Tulsa Posts: 59	Re: Satriani goes JVM 410H When Chickenfoot came to our area, I scoped out the stage and the FOH board.. all JVM210H amps. They rocked.

03-06-2011, 08:41 AM	#39 (permalink)
nuke Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: On the Dark Side of the Moon Posts: 3,999	Re: Satriani goes JVM 410H Contrary to what people may believe Marshall does not pay artists to use their amps, they never have. They may offer them the amps at a great price but they also do not "give" any of their amps away for free, they never have. The signature amps are built in very limited quantities and are not very profitable for Marshall, but they recognize on a worldwide scale the market for the amps. From where you sit it may not make sense but we don't see all the data they do on worldwide demand. I very much disagree that these signature amps are basically the same as a production model, look at amps like the AFD and YJM or even the 1959RR, very different. I suspect you will see all these artist amps come to a end soon, but we will also see some of the best amps Marshall has ever built hitting the market within two years, they are very good at keeping things quite.

03-20-2011, 10:13 AM	#42 (permalink)
JayCM800 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: New York, New York Posts: 4,290	Re: Satriani goes JVM 410H Ok, but when there's talk of "joke" "cheap" signature heads don't leave the 2203KK out!! JCM800 2203ZW JCM 2255 SL JCM800 2203KK AFD100 YJM100 There! I want one of each please, thank you! Harlequin tusk and Blisster like this.

03-21-2011, 12:42 AM	#43 (permalink)
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03-21-2011, 01:15 AM	#44 (permalink)
bhm1905 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Northumberland,uk Posts: 232	Re: Satriani goes JVM 410H its simple joe satriani one of the best guitarists of all time goes back to marshall the best amp maker of all time ,its simple really JayCM800 likes this. __________________ JCM2000 DSL401 Epiphone Zakk Wylde Bullseye Lp Greg Covington Treble Booster(for those queen moments)

09-22-2011, 09:21 PM	#45 (permalink)
Classic 59 Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 48	Re: Satriani goes JVM 410H Any news on his signature series amp?

09-25-2011, 07:30 AM	#49 (permalink)
Classic 59 Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 48	Re: Satriani goes JVM 410H Santiago was kind enough to send me this link awhile back. http://licklibrary.ceros.com/iguitar...sue2/page/102/ I am really looking forward to the final product.

09-26-2011, 02:22 PM	#51 (permalink)
MadIrishman Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Austin TX Posts: 14	Re: Satriani goes JVM 410H Satriani talks about his signature model in this months Guitarist magazine from the UK. JS: "The star of this record was the prototype of a version of the Marshall JVM410 that (engineer) Santiago Alvarez made for me, which is going to be a signature model. Channels 4, 3, and 2, are totally unique now, but channel 1 is mode 1, which is now more like the original Marshall 30th Anniversary 6100 at my request." Guitarist issue 346 ? on sale now! \| Guitarist \| MusicRadar.com

09-26-2011, 06:44 PM	#52 (permalink)
MonstersOfTheMidway Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: A chair Posts: 2,355	Re: Satriani goes JVM 410H The more I read about Satch's signature "JVM," the more I realize it is true that it isn't really gonna be a "true" JVM since he is incorporating tonal characteristics of the 6100 and AFD 100. Satch's signature Marshall will create quite a buzz, but from what I'm now reading, I doubt I'll even give it a play at the music stores (I'm more interested in the 50th anniversary amp and the new zakk wylde signature. If Marshall would consider doing this, I would be interested in purchasing another JVM with the stock features but with at least one of the following added features: 1. noise gate similar to JCM 800 2203KK and YJM 100 2. EPA similar to YJM100 and AFD 100 3. Adjustable external bias similar to YJM100 and AFD 100 4. Faulty valve alert system with LEDs similar to YJM100 and AFD 100 Though I haven't seen the finished Satriani Marshall, I think I'd rather have a new JVM with one of these added features instead. dodgethis likes this. __________________ You have to expect that not everyone is going to like what you like, believe what you believe, or think what you think, so dissenting opinions are valid whether you like it or not!!! Returning from double secret probation.

12-22-2011, 10:14 PM	#53 (permalink)
Classic 59 Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 48	Re: Satriani goes JVM 410H Any updates? This is going to be one amazing amp...

12-23-2011, 12:16 AM	#54 (permalink)
alvagoldbook Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 289	Re: Satriani goes JVM 410H Aw hell. And I was about to buy a JVM. I can't now, knowing a douche like Satriani plays one.

12-23-2011, 01:39 AM	#55 (permalink)
CAPDUNN Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: San Diego Posts: 1,650	Re: Satriani goes JVM 410H He loves and uses the 6100 channel. The other features are icing on the Cake! __________________ Marshall 6100LM with EL34s and the LM mod removed powering 1960A and B cabinets loaded with a mix of Vintage 30s and G12T75 speakers. Marshall 6101 with EL34s and a Vintage 30. 1912 loaded with a PreRola Greenback. I can't kill this speaker!

12-23-2011, 04:39 AM	#56 (permalink)
trigmachine Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: SCOTLAND Posts: 155	Re: Satriani goes JVM 410H regardless of what Satch plays through he's gonna sound like Satch be it Peavey or Marshall i shoukd imagine its nothing more than fancying a change with the added insentive of some cash! __________________ BE COOL

12-23-2011, 07:09 AM	#57 (permalink)
spacerocker Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: UK Posts: 674	Re: Satriani goes JVM 410H Sounds like it is going to be a very interesting amp! I have to laugh when I think of the amount of flaming I received on certain forums, for complaining that the JVM is too compressed and tight sounding, didn't sound "classic" enough on the crunch channels, and didn't feel "dynamic" enough for me...Consequently, I carried out several mods suggested by people here and elsewhere (and sometimes Santiago himself) to get the amp to sound and play how I wanted... Now, a couple of years later, we have Joe saying that he wants the amp modded for a more classic sound, wants a bit less gain on the OD channels, and wants the amp to be more dynamic, and suddenly, everyone thinks these changes are cool Seriously, though apart from the lack of built in reverb, (if that happens on the production amps) - the JS sig JVM sounds fantastic, and a lot closer to what I wanted in the first place!

12-23-2011, 11:31 AM	#60 (permalink)
drybone Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 53	Re: Satriani goes JVM 410H I posted pics of his touring rig from last year, front and back.

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