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Eddie Van Halen Reveals He Straight Up Lied About His Early Amps |*Guitar Squid

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zenfly

I never really cared what gear anyone used.. all the threads about how do I get this tone or that just make me laugh anyway.. Slash tone etc..
This is a great forum where we have freedom of speech so everyone rock on..

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50WPLEXI

I used to early on, but now no way. I like MY tone that I've worked hard to develop. Now I still love to hear certain player's tones, it still inspires me.

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MaxFrames

So, he used a simple voltage regulator between the mains plug and the amp, and with this he was getting the same result as you would get by using an expensive power soak between the power amp and the cabinet? Seriously? I dunno much about this stuff, but could it be he's STILL lying?
If it's simple as that, I might do that as well.... who wouldn't want to get the same tone, at 1/3 of the volume so not to upset the neighbors when you're shredding?

FennRx

Does anyone even care what evh says about anything at this point?

NewReligion

I feel for all of the guys who could only afford one amp at a time and blew them up over the last 40 years trying to get the evh tone due to his dis/misinformation. I said it before and I still don't believe a word he says. In addition I liked his earlier tones over that of the Peaveys and Fenders.

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NewReligion

Too late to take him serious.

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Wycked Lester

ed's gonna sound like ed no matter how many volts he uses, or doesn't use.

I did run across a variac a couple years ago and picked it up...its just been sitting on the shelf looking at me ever since.... Maybe I'll break it out and try it on my old cheapo Peavey Windsor.

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bvoris

You want my tone?
[IMG]http://www.marshallforum.com/members/bvoris-albums-other-picture7217-****-you-slash.jpeg[/IMG]

LOL

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DWK302

Never really thought his tone was anything special. All that tapping and divebombs seem kinda silly now. Over it.

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HeHasTheJazzHands

While the studio tones weren't that good with the Peaveys or EVHs, I think his tone on the recent VH tours sound really awesome with the EVHs.

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ReiGnMaN

Remind me not to pay attention to you based on your previous comments you're tone deaf to my genre

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MaxFrames

But... any technical insight about being able to mimick a power soak by using a (supposedly cheaper, and in all cases single, whereas for a stereo amp you would need two power soaks) variable current transformer? Or any real life experience of valve amps sounding great, at a fraction of the volume and without risk of damage/significant lifespan shortening, by using a such device? Or is what EVH said basically just hot air?

SonVolt

One of my amps has a Variac built in to it in addition to the power scaling/wattage lowering switches. The Variac really does lower the volume while preserving the tone better than dropping the watts from 100 down to 10 etc.

HeHasTheJazzHands

I think it is true that he used a variac, but it would wear out his amps so quickly that the tubes and, I believe, even the trannies needed to be changed out frequently.

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zenfly

I'm 63 and funny as it is I've been playing since 1963 (oh shit// math.. I was 14) but the search still goes on for that tone of my own.. So much of it for me comes from the use of the pic more than the great amp/guitar/tubes though I'm well stocked on all counts.. It's the combo of the bashing,grinding,scrubbing,popping,along with the light touch I work on constantly.. I guess what I'm saying is so much of all these great players tone is what their doing with their hands as much or more than their gear..

"Now I still love to hear certain player's tones, it still inspires me"
For sure ++.. Thats what got us all into this anyway.. At least for me.. I heard early rock and wanted to do that..

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Fender 63 Vibroverb,
Fender 67 Super Rev
Fender 91 Vibroking.
Dr.Z Maz18
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MaxFrames

So, on this amp you will be using either the Variac or the power scaling (not both), and the former gives a better tonal result than the latter, correct?
What amp is that and did you mod it to include these two gimmicks? If so, what was the cost?

zenfly

It's right here on this finger.. the other 9 help too... It really is all it the fingertips boys and girls..

I pushed the like button because there is no "I Love It"..

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Fender 57 5e3 Deluxe,
Fender 63 Vibroverb,
Fender 67 Super Rev
Fender 91 Vibroking.
Dr.Z Maz18
too many guitars..

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SonVolt

You can use both power scaling and the variac at the same time. Power scaling works better at bedroom volumes. The Variac works better at band volumes when you can't crank the amp to it's full potential b/c of volume issues. I wouldn't really call it a gimmick as it does indeed do what's it was designed to do with satisfactory results.

Here's the amp

bvoris

Awesome LOL

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Billyblades

old news......... hes just now confessing to what we allready knew for years...
when i was a member at the plexipalace about 13 yrs ago we allready had it nailed!
or just a ppimv on a 2204/3 and done!

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poeman33

As a rock guitar player...EVH certainly was extremely influential and I still admire his ability. But as for what he says...I have listened to things he has said for decades now. He changes his stories and opinions every time someone offers him a new deal or a new interview. I trust him about as far as Dave can throw him...probably less. I'd say that only he know for sure what he was doing in those days...but he has destroyed enough brain cells that even he probably can't remember.

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Wycked Lester

Where the **** were you last week when I was getting hammered and even called a few names for saying that same shit?


But yea, totally agree.

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My favorite head ever - 2203
Second favorite head - Jubilee

My #1 Guitar - 98 Custom Shop Jackson Soloist-Mike Shannon Built
My #2 Guitar - 1982 Les Paul Std.

I dig blues and metal.

"IF IT'S TOO LOUD, YOUR TOO CLOSE"

bassinvader

cracks me up....as these bands start out they have a half decent rig...a couple of pedels...may be distortion,flanger,chorus ect...then the get a break play stadiums...the have racks n racks of effects...only to get the sound of the early days....like ummm the edge!! he has a fork lift to bring his gear n he sounds no different to the early days were he was double delaying!!!

rnau

If he bought an English version and it ran on half, how did he jam a UK socket into an american outlet without changing something?

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Ed Hunter

This info is not new at all. I was aware of the amp "myth" years ago
and he still is not coming up totally clean he still has not told what was used on VH I?
That record has more gain than any other VH record and more than any plexi with just a variac on it can get and there is a reason for that and no one sayin. some say he used a OD box?
who the **** knows? and who the **** cares?
Seriously i feel bad for anyone spending thousands on gear to get a "ghost" tone
even eddie himself cant get that tone again

Nudge68

I'm a huge EVH fan, he got me started. I'm only interested in the music and musician. The personal stuff is none of my business and have no interest in any of it.

I believe his tone comes from his fingers and I've heard a lot of him on u-toob using all sorts of stuff that affirms this... to my ears anyway.

He's human in that he has needs, fears, motivation, insecurity and what not.

Bless him!

cheers,

Matt.

wakjob

Ted Templeman... that's how Eddie got his VH1 sound.

Case closed.

dreyn77

lied?

the amp is BOG standard!!!!

the strat was a strat. (sometimes it had a HB paf sometimes a slightly hotter one) 'on fire'

then there was a darker guitar with a dimazio SD humbucker 'you really got me'

the increase in gain was a pedal (mxr EQ 6 band)

the Phase 90 for something extra

a delay

THAT'S IT.

NO variac
NO slaving from one amp to another
NO constant changing of tubes
NO
NO
NO

I can do VH 1 all day long at the volume of a quiet whisper!!
HOW?
blackmore strat into a phase 90 into a mxr EQ into a marshall master lead. vol set to just on. the exact tone/sine wave for 'on fire'.

if you want all the other VH tones just plug in the different guitars with the hotter pickups

'HE' did talk the truth when he said the sound of the strat with a humbucker was nothing special, he thought it was special at the time.

marshallmellowed

Slash connects a variac to his earrings to get his tone, nose ring to get more snarl.

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