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Unread 09-09-2012, 04:13 AM   #1 (permalink)
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New DSL 40c - reviews, comparison with DSL 401?

Hi,
as a very happy owner of a DSL 401 I'm intrigued by the new DSL 40c.

Looking at the Marshall site it has EL34 valves and the same features as the new DSL 100.

Anybody using one or aware of any reviews?

I'd love to compare it to my 401.

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Unread 09-09-2012, 07:28 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: New DSL 40c - reviews, comparison with DSL 401?

I am gassing for one of these, I can't wait to hear from someone who has actually used one...
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Re: New DSL 40c - reviews, comparison with DSL 401?

Im curious too. The Haze40 effectively replaced the DSL401 in the product range, and now that it has been discontinued, this new combo is next in line.

I won't be changing though (not withstanding accidental split beer or dropping it from a great height) - the way I have my dsl401 set up now is perfect for everything I do.
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Re: New DSL 40c - reviews, comparison with DSL 401?

Played one today. Was more interested in the DSL15 but when I noticed no effects loop that was a deal breaker for me. I then turned to the DSL40 and it sounded, well, like a DSL should! Very ballsy, the 70 Eighty speaker works VERY well with the amp.

My lifelong regret was selling my DSL 50 head, and this one sounded as good to me. It's on my radar for sure!

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Re: New DSL 40c - reviews, comparison with DSL 401?

Excellent. I need to get out to a store that sells Marshall and try one for myself.

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Re: New DSL 40c - reviews, comparison with DSL 401?

btw, the manual is now up:

http://www.marshallamps.com/download...0hbk%20ENG.pdf

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Re: New DSL 40c - reviews, comparison with DSL 401?

well it is there..it works for me
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Re: New DSL 40c - reviews, comparison with DSL 401?

Hmm......40 watt EL34 based platform? Nice! I need to hear one.....
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Re: New DSL 40c - reviews, comparison with DSL 401?

I see it has two 8 ohm outs and a 16 Ohm. Thats good for adding extention cabs, and is more useful than the Haze in that way
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Re: New DSL 40c - reviews, comparison with DSL 401?

Seems to me like they're trying to finally do what they should have from the get-go with the 401: Put the 34's in the power section. I love the 401, but the EL34 sound is what Marshall's are known for. I'm very intrigued by this new amp.
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Re: New DSL 40c - reviews, comparison with DSL 401?

I like the dsl 401, haven't tried the ''new'' one. i just put a g12h 30 watt 55hz greenback (new heritage) in my dsl and it transformed it to one of the best amps i've had. Those speakers are ''it'' for me, I used them in the 80's and missed that sound. (I can"t do clips, sorry , and i didn't dislike the stock speaker, it was okay.
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Re: New DSL 40c - reviews, comparison with DSL 401?

The stock 100w Goldback is not great. I agree. I still promote playing it through a 4x12 cab FTW.
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Re: New DSL 40c - reviews, comparison with DSL 401?

New YouTube clips are beginning to appear: -

Marshall DSL40C 2012 Model Combo Amplifier - Lander's Music - YouTube

Marshall DSL 40C Combo - YouTube

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Re: New DSL 40c - reviews, comparison with DSL 401?

I like what I hear with the new dsl40c but I'm a little disappointed that they don't make a head version. Maybe down the line a little, Marshall will make one.

The 15h is cool but it's got 6v6 tubes. I'm definitely looking for that EL34 Marshall tone.

Does anyone know if Marshall will be making a 50 watt head version of the new Dsl amps?
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The 100w head is switchable between 100 and 50 Watts.
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Just ordered the 40C from musicians friend....15% off until october 8....
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I just got the new DSL40C. I have never owned the 401 so I can't compare them. But, I will say that to me the DSL40C seems very good compared to any amp I have used before. I was jamming with my friend last night and he was blown away by the sound of it. To sum it up, I'd say this is the closest to the Jimi Hendrix sound I've been able to achieve. The DSL40C is much smaller than Jimi's amps but the sound is surprisingly similar.

The best part of the DSL40C is the price. I doubt anyone could find me an amp that sounds this good for under $700. I think once word gets around about the DSL40C, they will be out of stock almost everywhere.

The DSL40C seems very well built. Everything works and everything is new and shiny inside and out. I did notice some things about it which I'll list here and maybe someone will have comments.

1. The standby switch seems to be reversed. When it's in the "ON" position the amp is on, and when it's switched to "off" the amp is off. I would have thought it should be the other way around. I think it should be that when standby is "ON" the amp is sleeping and does not make sound.

2. There was no warranty card in the box so I came to this website and registered online. Maybe that's the new way to register?

That's all I can think of saying after only having the DSL40C for one day.
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Re: New DSL 40c - reviews, comparison with DSL 401?

I've been gaining interest in these too. I haven't seen one in person but it sounds pretty darn sweet in the youtube vids.
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Re: New DSL 40c - reviews, comparison with DSL 401?

I own one for about a week now and played it at least 4 hours each day. Here's the text of a review/question I posted on another thread, hope it's useful:

I loved the original dsl series and figured I'd pick up one of these new cheaper Vietnamese-made dsl's. Had it for about a week and love it.

I'm really only reviewing the Lead 1 setting of the Ultra Gain channel because I stay there 99% of the time. The clean channel is what it is. If you want super sparkly cleans you wouldn't have bought a Marshall in the first place. It is usable however. The crunch setting on the clean channel reminds me of a Marshall bluesbreaker or old plexi. A lot of you will love it.

On Lead 1/Ultra Gain channel, however, tou get that gritty wonderful mid-heavy EL34-inspired crunch that Marshall is so famous for. Think GnR's AFD tone. That's tone straight from heaven for my ears.

I was pleasantly surprised at the Celestion 70/80 speaker. I know they went with it because it's cheaper and I expected it to really suck but it seems to hold the low end well without barfing out. I've ran the Lead 1/Ultra channel at levels of volume = 5, gain = 6 and that's loud enough to play any live venue of 500 seats or less on its own. Anything bigger I guess you could mic it.

I also like the digital reverb. I'm not much of a reverb guy. I feel like a very little goes a long way, especially with good tube amps. What I liked is that the reverb is very subtle and usable. Normally anything past 2 way overdoes it but this one is mostly a hint of reverb that works well with the tubes. I've set it as high as 6 and get a very organic sounding reverb out of it. If you're into surf-music style reverb you definitely need a pedal.

I like that they included a footswitch but I do have to complain about button 2. It toggles the reverb off/on on whatever channel you're on. I've played guitar for decades for fun and as an occasional touring semi-pro and I've never needed to toggle reverb off and on during a song. If I did I'd buy a digi-verb pedal and use that instead. I have no use for this button. What I would have loved is for them to make button 2 toggle between OD settings on both channels. On the classic gain channel it should toggle between clean/crunch and on the ultra gain channel it should toggle between lead1/lead2. If they had done that the pedal would be perfect. I wonder if that is mod I could have done since the functions I mention are controlled by toggles on the faceplate? A friend who builds his own amps once told me if a function is a toggle on the face of an amp then you can mod it to be toggled via footswitch.

All in all I honestly believe the DSL40C will take over the tube market in the $500-$750 range. I've owned a lot of tube amps in that price range (Fender Hot Rod, Peavey Classic, Peavey Valveking, Peavey Vypyr, Bugera, Crate, Blackstar) and this amp is better than any of those by far.

If you have the big bucks don't be a fool, buy a JVM. If you're in the market for a $500-$750 tube amp I'm pretty sure you'll be happy with this one. Hope this is helpful and hope someone can answer my question about a mod for the function that button 2 on the footswitch could control.
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I'm about to become a Marshall owner for the first time. I've been playing electric since the mid 80's. I've owned and gigged with Peavey, Mesa, Line 6, Rivera, and Genz Benz. I have no idea why I've never owned a Marshall since most of my favorite players use them. I mainly play blues, classic rock, and 80's metal.

I pulled the trigger on the DSL40C and am really excited. I've only heard clips but like what I hear. My only concern is how this amp will sound at low volumes. I don't gig anymore and just play at home mostly at lower volumes. Since this isnt' a MV amp I hope it works well.

I'll post an update after I get it.
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I look forward to that. I haven't yet tried one.

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Love mine. Just like my DSL50 but in an all in one lightweight portable package!
The addition of the resonance control instead of deep switch is really nice!
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Mine is awesome. I love the thing. I've been using and abusing it every night for a week now. I posted a more detailed review above. The differences I've noticed are:

1. The controls on the front are a little different. On the new version the EQ section is for both channels instead of separate EQ per channel. The new version has presence and resonance controls which are very useful. The new version has a gain and volume per channel. The new version has a tone shift button for cutting the mids.

2. The speaker in the new version is a Celestion 70/80, probably not as good as the old version.

3. The new version is made in Vietnam, the old one was made in the UK.

I haven't inspected the wood used yet so I don't know if it's particle board or plywood but for a 1x12 combo it's really heavy so it could by decent wood.

The tone, which is the most important thing of all, is spot on DSL tone. My all-time favorite Marshall tone!

In my own worthless opinion I truly believe this new DSL40C will take over the $500-$750 tube amp market. Its main competitors would be Fender Hot Rod, Peavey Classic and Valveking, Line 6 Spider Valve and it blows those away.
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Mine is on the UPS truck and will be waiting for me when I get home from work.



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Ok, so it's here. I've spent about 30 mins with it and so far I am really liking it.

Cleans and crunch are great and respond well to guitar volume adjustments.

Leads 1 & 2 can be a bit buzzy but I'm sure I can work on that with tube and or speaker swaps. I haven't plugged it into my 412 yet so we'll see how that thickens things up.

It also sounds really good at low volumes which I need. I know this is something the NMV Marshalls are not known for but if you have low volume requirements this amp will work just fine.

This is my first Marshall after about 25 years of playing. I've had some great tube amps over the years but for some reason never bought a Marshall. I think it's a keeper.
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Can't wait.
It's always very exciting to pull up the item on their tracking site and see that it's out for delivery. Once I was waiting for a new guitar and it was out for delivery then the dude never showed. By 9:00pm that night the status suddenly changed. The delivery date bumped up a day and the status was "at fedex facility." I was crushed. Had to wait a whole other day.
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It's always very exciting to pull up the item on their tracking site and see that it's out for delivery. Once I was waiting for a new guitar and it was out for delivery then the dude never showed. By 9:00pm that night the status suddenly changed. The delivery date bumped up a day and the status was "at fedex facility." I was crushed. Had to wait a whole other day.
I hate it when that happens! What's worse is when the status changes to DELIVERED but still no package. Happened to me twice last week with USPS.
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I just received mine earlier this week. I have owned plexi. old dsl and a jvm. I got this combo because I needed to down size but still play clubs.Ok here we go.


Channel on clean is ok, weak on volume but very clean. Crunch and it comes alive. I find volume at 5 and gain at 5 perfect. very good when light picking or volume down on the guitar. This is a very punchy amp even with the 70/80 speaker.Reverb is good. Reminds me of the one on JVM.

Ultra channel 1 is where I am at most of the time. Classic marshall in every way. Pleny o gain. again very punchy with thump on the low end even with a open back cab design.Gain at 4 volume at 3.

Ultra channel 2 with the mid pushed is very heavy, but for those who want to live there may want a little better speaker if the volume is pushed.

I find this amp to be very bright as I am running the treble on 0 mids at 4 and bass at 8. presence and resonance are at noon.This is wilth a HSS Strat. Your mileage may very.

No Fizz at all in this amp!!! My JVM and old DSl was good but was better after adding a choke. This one doesnt need that mod.

I noticed that the 1st preamp tube is not shielded and had a O ring on it for damping. Looks like winged "C"s for the power tubes

This amp takes pedals very well as I think most Marshalls do.I push mine with a Barber DDLG.

If this amp holds together it will be a keeper. I have played about eveything else in its price range. Good job Marshall.
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