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Unread 08-12-2012, 05:45 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Unhappy I thought that Marshall will produce the 1 watters the WHOLE year.

And guess what?
I asked to MF if they are going to have a JMP1 H available some day and they told me this:

"Unfortunately, we have sold out of our inventory of these amplifiers, and will not be receiving any more in-stock, as Marshall has discontinued their production. I apologize for the inconvenience, however if there is anything else we can do to assist you, please let us know."
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Unread 08-12-2012, 06:12 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: I thought that Marshall will produce the 1 watters the WHOLE year.

Which completely contradicts ALL of the information we've had since January about these amps: (that they are limited to 500 heads and 500 combos worldwide per amp model).
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Unread 08-12-2012, 06:15 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: I thought that Marshall will produce the 1 watters the WHOLE year.

I don't have any authoritative answers for you, but Marshall did say they were producing these amps all year.

It seems they shipped a LOT more JCM's to the states than the first two.

At least some more JTM1's have shown up in the states recently.

I haven't seen any more JMP1's yet, but AMS is taking pre-orders (I think), and they seem to be available in the UK.

It's still only August, hopefully some more will show up. Good luck.
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Re: I thought that Marshall will produce the 1 watters the WHOLE year.

I've only heard Chris George in a demo video say they would be produced all year. It's certainly possible he was mistaken unless someone else has heard it from a different source.
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Which completely contradicts ALL of the information we've had since January about these amps: (that they are limited to 500 heads and 500 combos worldwide per amp model).
I've never heard a specific number on how many were going to be produced. All of mine have serial numbers below 500 though so it would be nice to know how many were actually made. I wonder if Marshall will release that information.
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And guess what?
I asked to MF if they are going to have a JMP1 H available some day and they told me this:

"Unfortunately, we have sold out of our inventory of these amplifiers, and will not be receiving any more in-stock, as Marshall has discontinued their production. I apologize for the inconvenience, however if there is anything else we can do to assist you, please let us know."
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Thats good news. Now you can buy a real Marshall instead.
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And guess what?
I asked to MF if they are going to have a JMP1 H available some day and they told me this:

"Unfortunately, we have sold out of our inventory of these amplifiers, and will not be receiving any more in-stock, as Marshall has discontinued their production. I apologize for the inconvenience, however if there is anything else we can do to assist you, please let us know."
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Are you in the UK as if you are Marshall should make you one to order?
I know America had a bit of a rough deal as cautious Marshall dealers only ordered small amounts from them,but as far as the situation goes those munchkin amps are limited time,not numbers!

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On a plus side though,you've now got a very good excuse to splash out on a YJM!

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Unread 08-13-2012, 11:14 AM   #9 (permalink)
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They will be in prodution all year then that is it. Here in the US it is the distributor that has to order them, Marshall will fill whatever quanity they ask for. The distributor only orders what retailers ask for.

That is how it works.
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..., but Marshall did say they were producing these amps all year.
..and that's exactly what Marshall is doing. They are producing the 50th anniversary amps the entire year.

I think there's a big confusion because apparently nobody knew/knows how many they will make of each version.

I did read somewhere that they would make each amp for 10 weeks, but that could also been interpreted as when a new amp would 've been available.
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I've heard there may be another run of the JMP's. That's the one I'd like to get, if I do get one.

Howevers, a used 4104 is also very appealing...
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Re: I thought that Marshall will produce the 1 watters the WHOLE year.

If I were to guess, I would say that the production line is established for a run of one type. Then the next. I would be surprised if they mixed models on a production run. 10 weeks makes mathematical sense. But "things" happen in the world of production. It is also possible that they are running in 4~8 week cycles and they they will fill the back-orders on later runs. That seems to be what is happening with the JTMs. It seems that everybody is expecting new shipments of JTMs in Sept. Another possibility is that these new JTMs were actually slow moving product sitting in a warehouse for the USA market - until the demand finally came around.

I just ordered a JTM-1C from Eddies Guitars that is due in to come in in the next few weeks. It would be interesting to see what the S/N of that amp will be.
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Re: I thought that Marshall will produce the 1 watters the WHOLE year.

I wish I had a dollar for every product the MF says is "discontinued". I don't buy from them as I am in Canada, but I like to check the price. The DSL has been discontinued about a dozen times I think according to them. And so has a American Deluxe Ash Fender Strat. They get more stock and Lo and Behold...it's not discontinued anymore...well until they run out of stock again.
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If I were to go to my local Marshall dealer (not Guitar Center) and order a
JCM-1 or a JMP-1, would the odds be in the dealer's favor that he could obtain one?


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I doubt it very seriously. It doesn't make sense for a dealer to order just one unit of anything. There would have to be a larger order placed i think in order to justify shipping and handling costs.
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I doubt it very seriously. It doesn't make sense for a dealer to order just one unit of anything. There would have to be a larger order placed i think in order to justify shipping and handling costs.
They can order a 1 off - & if it ships with the 20 YJMs they ordered at the same time they'll save $hitloads in freight!!
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Re: I thought that Marshall will produce the 1 watters the WHOLE year.

Where would one find the serial number on one of the combos?
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Some thoughts:

The JTM1 and JMP1 initial shipments sold out quickly. By the time the JCM1's came up, they seem to have produced a lot more. Now we are seeing JTM1's in the pipeline again.

Based on what I have seen, I wouldn't be surprised if another run of JMP1's show up in a few weeks.
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Marshall are making them all year, don't believe the distrubutor.
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Thats good news. Now you can buy a real Marshall instead.

I bought a Haze 40! $250! I saved $500! Now I can save and wait until something better and more complete comes out! Not worth the price vs function! I agree with most people that there are way more better options than those one watters Marshall or not!
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I bought a Haze 40! $250! I saved $500! Now I can save and wait until something better and more complete comes out! Not worth the price vs function! I agree with most people that there are way more better options than those one watters Marshall or not!
It depends on the application ... but if you're talking pure tone, the price increase from a Haze 40 to one of the 1w amps is worth every penny. The only advantage to the Haze 40 would be volume (which only matters if you're using it for gigs).
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I bought a Haze 40! $250! I saved $500! Now I can save and wait until something better and more complete comes out! Not worth the price vs function! I agree with most people that there are way more better options than those one watters Marshall or not!
You didn't save $500. That would imply you got the same tone and quality for your $250. That is definitely not the case. You went with the do-it-all digital watch over the made with pride Rolex. Nothing wrong with that but the two are not interchangeable.
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Marshall may make them all year long, but that does not mean they are being shipped into the USA. So if you are in the US - yes, they are OUT OF STOCK in most US stores.

They are very limited in the US becuase Marshall USA didn't order that many. And I would assume they aren't ordering any more than they announced earlier in the year which was 250 of each of the 10 units for a total of 2,500 units.....
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Re: I thought that Marshall will produce the 1 watters the WHOLE year.

Except there seems to be a shit-ton of JCM1 amps available in the USA. Makes that whole "250 of each" thing meaningless, doesn't it?
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Lot of stores just got new batch of JTM1 which I thought was sold out back in March. Maybe they ordered more JTM1s and they got shipped with JCM1s. I see some stores are expecting more JMP1 in September too.
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Can somebody please direct me to a reliable source that says they are a limited production run? I always thought they were only to be made for this year. Time, not number.
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This is all crap!!! Every local dealer (including the dreaded GC) has said they have a minimum annual requirement to sell certain Marshall products. Many stores received only one or two of each with no option to reorder (some received additional amps later regardless). The bottom line here in the US is that Marshall distribution setups are fickle and often unethically handled. The big seller retailers get the lions share and likely have reorder capability (that doesn't mean Marshall will honor the order). I ran a local shop for several years and I avoided Marshall just because US distribution was hellacious.

I would not be surprised if 1,000's of JCM's are produced and whatever they sell a bunch of will have higher production numbers. Whores don't have sales limits . Why should they???

Let me clarify that I own a JCM1, JMP1, and have owned 10 or more Marshalls over the last 20 years. I love the amps.
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On the back, on the far right hand side - To the right of the speaker outs, to the right of the little Union Jack sticker, it will be white, oriented vertically, and will have a barcode on it.

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