Rodney

I have been searching this forum trying to find some thoughts on the the 1959 slp vs the Handwired version

Has anybody tested both and if so is there much of a tonal differance?
Is spending the extra money for Handwired worth it?

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David Corrales

There's a video from a Marshall factory tour where an employee himself says that there's little to no difference. It's more about historic mojo and ease of repairs (but hopefully neither will break hehe).

Theory-wise, if the components are the same and the PCB layout and traces are good they should sound the same 99.9%. Also, in the vein of Mesa Boogie amps, it's easier to produce consistent good quality products by using a PCB and an automated process instead of hand-wiring stuff.

I would rather spend the extra cash on another amp or attenuator.

Redstone

I'd go with the normal one. Like David said. Machines are more consistent than man, so you have a 99.9% chance of getting an awesome amp. get an attenuator with it so it doesn't blow the roof off your house. Believe me. 100watt amps on even volume 0 make noise, on volume 1 it is even too loud for me. I tried it with my YJM and it nearly sent my house flying 200 feet in the air.

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Crunchcity

I would get the handwired one because of the historic mojo and ease of repair.

Blokkadeleider

You might want to have a look at this thread:
Be honest !:1959 vs 1959 hand wired


Gr,

Gerrit.

NewReligion

I would use my ears. As I have had two 1987X's from 2007 and 2010. As with other amps of the same model and "Identical Components", I hear a difference. Another thought is that the HW has no Effects Loop.

Just my $.02

David

Blokkadeleider

Hearing is believing.
Could the tubes have something to do with it too?


Gr,

Gerrit.

*Just to throw some oil on the fire: real 1959's have no effects loop

Wiking

Yeah, let it burn baby, burn I tell ya.

But you are right ofcourse.

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trenchcoat

That would knock out the HW for me.

Rodney

MMMM Im thinking i going to have to find a 1959HW to try for myself and that should answer my own question

I do remember trying 2 Vox AC30 amps once the HW and the PCB versions and the HW did sound better so i guess the same would go for the 1959 Marshall

SuperBeaver

I've googled this question myself in the past just out of curiosity.
The general feeling is they sound the same or as 'same' as two Marshalls can sound.
Your tech will rather you have the HW because it would be theoretically easier to work on. Having said that, I was speaking to a well respected tech recently and I asked him what his favourite amp to work on was and he said the DSL. So there you go, a mass produced PCB amp that cork sniffers would turn their nose up at is his favourite designed amp.

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crossroadsnyc

The HW is suppose to be based on like a 68/69 circuit, whereas the standard reissue is voiced more toward the more 'aggressive' (more gain) tone of a 70's super lead. Your ears will tell you which one you like the best.

As for which is 'better', well, Marshall has been doing the PCB thing since like 1973 ... so, that's nearly 40 years since the hand-wired era was in full bloom. If PCB's were as bad as some internet cork sniffers would have you believe, then any Marshall amp made after 1973 would be considered garbage ... and if you really believed that, I doubt very much you'd have any interest in Marshall amps to begin with (in fact, nobody would, and they'd have been out of business decades ago).

Don't be this guy ...

Polvo

it's more about the components, rather then it was handwired or robotics. Instead of getting a new handwired I would get one from the

dreyn77

THe 1959rr is both pcb and hand wired! In the future the components will get smaller again and look nothing like what we see now and no need for such a big wooden box to put it in. If you like what you see and hear now, get that. too much choice now! cheap prices for guitars now, but not yet for marshall amps. I've played 2 SLP's (different years of production) and they both impressed me with tone. I was VERY tempted to buy. If people are raving about the 1 watters, then these 2 should be what the designer intended to make. (whatever that is) Marshall quotes are truthfull I have found. If you look at GARY MOORE dvd MONTREUX 2010 when he changes guitars the HW plexi sounds very different.