Extension CAB for a Class5?

byrdparis · 07-15-2012, 01:48 AM

Hey all.
I'm trying do decide on some 1X12 Cab for my Class5 combo.
I'm looking for something that is more natural and neutral from the actual combo.
also "larger" with more definition with what I got from the 10" In the C5.

I live is Israel, so I guess not so much of a boutique around here.
Here are my options that I can get relativity with no hassles.

Mesa Boogie – compact 1X12\wide
Mesa Boogie – Transatlantic 1X12 (19\23)
Mesa Boogie – lone star 1X12 (23)

Egnater – Tweaker 1x12
Egnater – Rebel 1x12

PRS - SE 2x12 Cabinet

Orange - PPC-112 60W
Framus Dragon 112
Suhr 1 x 12 -Black Unloaded (and buy some 12" like G12 30w)

And ofcourse some Marshalls

What would you get?
I play mostly progressive metal\rock\blues etc.

Thanks a lot from advance
A

brp · 07-15-2012, 02:32 AM

Not sure if you mean the Egnater 1x12 for the Rebel series or the one for the Tweaker.

The Rebel one is closed backed and has the Celestion Elite 80 while the Tweaker is semi-open and has the G12H30-70th.

I have the Tweaker 1x12 and I love it. Great with all 3 of my low watt tube amps.

byrdparis · 07-15-2012, 02:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brp

Not sure if you mean the Egnater 1x12 for the Rebel series or the one for the Tweaker.

The Rebel one is closed backed and has the Celestion Elite 80 while the Tweaker is semi-open and has the G12H30-70th.

I have the Tweaker 1x12 and I love it. Great with all 3 of my low watt tube amps.

hi BRP - thank! :-)
i wrote that i can get the tweaker and the rebel one..

my thoughts was also on the tweaker while its open back and got the G12H30 in it.. i guess it will be more suited?!?

my second choice (or maybe its need to be my first?!) is the Mesa..
how they perform compeer to the egnater?

brp · 07-15-2012, 03:06 AM

I have no idea on the Mesa vs. Egnater question but I agree that the Tweaker cab would (at least technically) be more suited to the Class 5 than the Rebel cab.

I don't know if any of your other options have this but I'd be tempted to get something with a removeable partial back so you can try it semi-open AND closed to see which suits you best, or have the option of both for whatever style you're going for on any given day.
Dr. Z, Jet City and Avatar among other manufacturers as well have this feature.

Roadburn · 07-15-2012, 05:00 AM

Not sure what the situation is in Israël and guitarshops and the gear they have.
But if you can, try a 2x12.

It's personal, but I think speakercabs or combo's with just one speaker don't sound as good as a 2x or even 4x.

Using a smallbox 4x10 myself (Marshall 1965A). Not as bad on your back, like a regular 4x12, but sounds just like one nonetheless

byrdparis · 07-15-2012, 05:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roadburn

Not sure what the situation is in Israël and guitarshops and the gear they have.
But if you can, try a 2x12.

It's personal, but I think speakercabs or combo's with just one speaker don't sound as good as a 2x or even 4x.

Using a smallbox 4x10 myself (Marshall 1965A). Not as bad on your back, like a regular 4x12, but sounds just like one nonetheless

Thanks RB
They (we) got 2X12 AND 4X12 also among the cab's that available.
But i have some "room" issues.
I'm not sure that I can fit an addition 1X12 let alone 2X12 (or 4X12)

I have my own music room around the house (the only thing that the wife let me to called my own ;-))
But it's a very tight one unfortunately…

Roadburn · 07-15-2012, 05:30 AM

That's a pitty. Looks like a very small room indeed.

B.t.w. nice hifi installation you have there!

brp · 07-15-2012, 05:30 AM

I concur w/ Roadburn.
I've been messing around with a couple different 1x12" cabs the last couple years but I'm going out to get myself a 2x12, very likely next week.

After weeks of researching my viable options, I think I've pretty much decided on the Jet City JCA24S+. Great price, loaded with JCA branded Eminence based on the Legends, stereo or mono option and it has the convertible semi-open or closed back panel.

Regarding the room issue, most 2x12 stood vertically are only going to be a few inches bigger footprint than most 1x12.
For example, the Tweaker 1x12 horizontal footprint is 20", vertically it's 15" and the JCA24S+ vertical footprint is 20" for what it's worth.

byrdparis · 07-15-2012, 05:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roadburn

That's a pitty. Looks like a very small room indeed.

B.t.w. nice hifi installation you have there!

thanks

FennRx · 07-15-2012, 06:46 AM

you could make this fit

Mesa/Boogie 2x12 Rectifier Standard Vertical Slant (2x12" Vertical) | Sweetwater.com

Stringjunkie · 07-15-2012, 06:51 AM

I have a closed back 1x12 with a WGS reaper (g12h30 copy) made by Sourmash, and its pretty sweet with my C5.

Darth Federer · 07-15-2012, 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FennRx

you could make this fit

Mesa/Boogie 2x12 Rectifier Standard Vertical Slant (2x12" Vertical) | Sweetwater.com

This is the cab I use for my class 5 and it is awesome. I also have a couple H&K 1x12's that also sound fantastic. The vertical design would help with a tight space and give you good sound spread at the same time. If you get a 1x12, I would suggest looking for one with a ported baffle for better bottom end. Also search the forum for this topic in other threads. There are many.

corbo · 07-15-2012, 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roadburn

Not sure what the situation is in Israël and guitarshops and the gear they have.
But if you can, try a 2x12.

It's personal, but I think speakercabs or combo's with just one speaker don't sound as good as a 2x or even 4x.

Using a smallbox 4x10 myself (Marshall 1965A). Not as bad on your back, like a regular 4x12, but sounds just like one nonetheless

+1 on the 1965 cabs sound great < and are light

07-15-2012, 01:48 AM	#1 (permalink)
byrdparis Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Israel Posts: 280	Extension CAB for a Class5? Hey all. I'm trying do decide on some 1X12 Cab for my Class5 combo. I'm looking for something that is more natural and neutral from the actual combo. also "larger" with more definition with what I got from the 10" In the C5. I live is Israel, so I guess not so much of a boutique around here. Here are my options that I can get relativity with no hassles. Mesa Boogie – compact 1X12\wide Mesa Boogie – Transatlantic 1X12 (19\23) Mesa Boogie – lone star 1X12 (23) Egnater – Tweaker 1x12 Egnater – Rebel 1x12 PRS - SE 2x12 Cabinet Orange - PPC-112 60W Framus Dragon 112 Suhr 1 x 12 -Black Unloaded (and buy some 12" like G12 30w) And ofcourse some Marshalls What would you get? I play mostly progressive metal\rock\blues etc. Thanks a lot from advance A __________________ AMPS and CAB: Marshall JVM 410H Marshall YJM100 Mesa Boogie Mark V Marshall 1960B w.Celestion G12T-75 & V30 Guitars: -Fender stratocaster FSR -Gilmoure custom. -Fender stratocaster JB sig' -Vigier Excalibur Shawn Lane sig' -EBMM John Petrucci 6 (Piezzo, matching headstock) -PRS SE Semihollow natuarl color - bareknuckles -Ibanez SV5470 Desertburst - Suhr ssh+\ssv pups -Yamaha CG100 classical guitar

07-15-2012, 02:32 AM	#2 (permalink)
brp Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 4,068	Re: Extension CAB for a Class5? Not sure if you mean the Egnater 1x12 for the Rebel series or the one for the Tweaker. The Rebel one is closed backed and has the Celestion Elite 80 while the Tweaker is semi-open and has the G12H30-70th. I have the Tweaker 1x12 and I love it. Great with all 3 of my low watt tube amps. __________________ Recommended: On Floor Audio mods by HOT TUBES 70, Martimus Maximus tubes from MartyStrat54, NOS tubes from RiverRatt -- My Studio -- "If we can't laugh at the dead, we have no business killing people"

07-15-2012, 03:06 AM	#4 (permalink)
brp Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 4,068	Re: Extension CAB for a Class5? I have no idea on the Mesa vs. Egnater question but I agree that the Tweaker cab would (at least technically) be more suited to the Class 5 than the Rebel cab. I don't know if any of your other options have this but I'd be tempted to get something with a removeable partial back so you can try it semi-open AND closed to see which suits you best, or have the option of both for whatever style you're going for on any given day. Dr. Z, Jet City and Avatar among other manufacturers as well have this feature. __________________ Recommended: On Floor Audio mods by HOT TUBES 70, Martimus Maximus tubes from MartyStrat54, NOS tubes from RiverRatt -- My Studio -- "If we can't laugh at the dead, we have no business killing people"

07-15-2012, 05:00 AM	#5 (permalink)
Roadburn Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,489	Re: Extension CAB for a Class5? Not sure what the situation is in Israël and guitarshops and the gear they have. But if you can, try a 2x12. It's personal, but I think speakercabs or combo's with just one speaker don't sound as good as a 2x or even 4x. Using a smallbox 4x10 myself (Marshall 1965A). Not as bad on your back, like a regular 4x12, but sounds just like one nonetheless brp likes this. __________________ Gibson Les Paul Standard (2001) Honeyburst Fernandes Japan Customshop Marshall Class 5 (MV by DrTube) H&K TubeMeister 18 1965A (4x G10L-35) Korg AX1500g, Line6 GX, MXR GT-OD, Schaller Fuzz/Sustain, Ibanez FZ7 Fuzz --->GAIN=/=DISTORTION<---

07-15-2012, 05:30 AM	#7 (permalink)
Roadburn Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,489	Re: Extension CAB for a Class5? That's a pitty. Looks like a very small room indeed. B.t.w. nice hifi installation you have there! __________________ Gibson Les Paul Standard (2001) Honeyburst Fernandes Japan Customshop Marshall Class 5 (MV by DrTube) H&K TubeMeister 18 1965A (4x G10L-35) Korg AX1500g, Line6 GX, MXR GT-OD, Schaller Fuzz/Sustain, Ibanez FZ7 Fuzz --->GAIN=/=DISTORTION<---

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07-15-2012, 05:30 AM	#8 (permalink)
brp Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 4,068	Re: Extension CAB for a Class5? I concur w/ Roadburn. I've been messing around with a couple different 1x12" cabs the last couple years but I'm going out to get myself a 2x12, very likely next week. After weeks of researching my viable options, I think I've pretty much decided on the Jet City JCA24S+. Great price, loaded with JCA branded Eminence based on the Legends, stereo or mono option and it has the convertible semi-open or closed back panel. Regarding the room issue, most 2x12 stood vertically are only going to be a few inches bigger footprint than most 1x12. For example, the Tweaker 1x12 horizontal footprint is 20", vertically it's 15" and the JCA24S+ vertical footprint is 20" for what it's worth. __________________ Recommended: On Floor Audio mods by HOT TUBES 70, Martimus Maximus tubes from MartyStrat54, NOS tubes from RiverRatt -- My Studio -- "If we can't laugh at the dead, we have no business killing people"

07-15-2012, 06:46 AM	#10 (permalink)
FennRx Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 508	Re: Extension CAB for a Class5? you could make this fit Mesa/Boogie 2x12 Rectifier Standard Vertical Slant (2x12" Vertical) \| Sweetwater.com __________________

07-15-2012, 06:51 AM	#11 (permalink)
Stringjunkie Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: S W Florida Posts: 3,311	Re: Extension CAB for a Class5? I have a closed back 1x12 with a WGS reaper (g12h30 copy) made by Sourmash, and its pretty sweet with my C5. __________________ Orange Dark Terror JCM1H DSL1H Sourmash 1x12/reaper Sourmash 1x12/green beret Fender American standard strat-stock Fender Blacktop strat-MHD pups Ibanez RG- MHD pups Gibson LP 50s tribute studio-stock

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