My amp

Vintager12 · 02-22-2009, 05:05 AM

My marshall amp is a modded vintage modern and it is a better amp then the marshall bluesbreaker Ive compared my amp with a TSL122 a JCM 800 A JCM 900 and the bluesbreaker. Results of the test :

TSL was not as good as what i thought my modded valvestate sounds better

I know it is not an amp to turn on and play but you must take your time to get a cool rock tone out of it. So a guy helped me to get a good rock tone out of it but my modded valvestate was allways better

The JCM 800 was a great good sounding amp and I had a nice rock tone when i turned it on ! But it was not soundin much better as my modded Valvestate. to get an impression of how my modded valvestate sounds listen to this amp : YouTube - FJA Modded Marshall 2203 high gain 2 this JCM amp just sounds a little heavier

The JCM 900 was a great amp and sounded 30 % better as the Modded valvestate to me.

Lets hope i can buy one after a long time saveing my money

The bluesbreaker was horible ! Never played through a soo bad amp.

Cheers.

jtm-series player · 02-22-2009, 06:07 AM

crossroadsnyc · 02-22-2009, 08:20 AM

What mods were done to your Valvestate? From what I recall, you only mentioned placing a Marshall Guv'nor pedal in front of it. Anything special I'm missing out on here? And no, you can't hide behind "musicianship secrecy" when you make an outlandish comment (or series of) like this...you have to be able to back up these claims somewhat.

I can appreciate you liking the tone you are getting from your rig, but to say that the combination of a Valvestate & Marshall Guv'nor pedal are not only equal to, but greater than, a TSL / JCM800 / Bluesbreaker is, at best, wishful thinking. Particularly in the case of the JCM800 & the Bluesbreaker, you are talking about two of the most revered amps in Marshall history.

*edit: how did you arrive to the conclusion that the JCM900 sounds 30% better than the Valvestate?

jtm-series player · 02-22-2009, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Vintager12

My marshall amp is a modded vintage modern and it is a better amp then the marshall bluesbreaker

cool man! I didn't know that the valvestates are modded vintagemoderns!
thx man!

Vintager12 · 02-22-2009, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by crossroadsnyc

What mods were done to your Valvestate? From what I recall, you only mentioned placing a Marshall Guv'nor pedal in front of it. Anything special I'm missing out on here? And no, you can't hide behind "musicianship secrecy" when you make an outlandish comment (or series of) like this...you have to be able to back up these claims somewhat.

I can appreciate you liking the tone you are getting from your rig, but to say that the combination of a Valvestate & Marshall Guv'nor pedal are not only equal to, but greater than, a TSL / JCM800 / Bluesbreaker is, at best, wishful thinking. Particularly in the case of the JCM800 & the Bluesbreaker, you are talking about two of the most revered amps in Marshall history.

*edit: how did you arrive to the conclusion that the JCM900 sounds 30% better than the Valvestate?

I dont know what mods are did.. but it sounds a lot bettter then a normal valvestate i dont know what mods are did because the owner before me did the mods i dont did it. And i dont know if its exactly 30 % better I like it more i think its something like 30 %. And I used a bluesbreaker but realy the modded valvestate was better, and it also was better then the TSL , and i dont said it is better then the JCM 800 i just said my modded valvestate is commin close to that tone but the JCM sounds havier.

Vintager12 · 02-22-2009, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by jtm-series player

cool man! I didn't know that the valvestates are modded vintagemoderns!
thx man!

I dont said that, I just said Its a modded valvestate and it sounds better then a Bluesbreaker.

WrenchDevil6 · 02-22-2009, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by jtm-series player:
cool man! I didn't know that the valvestates are modded vintagemoderns!
thx man!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vintager12: I dont said that, I just said Its a modded valvestate and it sounds better then a Bluesbreaker.

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Originally Posted by Vintager12

My marshall amp is a modded vintage modern... FIRST POST

Do you read your own writing?

Vintager12 · 02-22-2009, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by WrenchDevil6

Do you read your own writing?

damn now i see it must be valvestate.
But the strange thing is that my modded valvestate's sound is between a JCM 800 and a Vintage modern.

HOT TUBES 70 · 02-23-2009, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Vintager12

damn now i see it must be valvestate.
But the strange thing is that my modded valvestate's sound is between a JCM 800 and a Vintage modern.

i have never heard of a valvestate that could stand along side of a 800
or better yet a vintage modern tonewise !!!

Vintager12 · 02-23-2009, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by HOT TUBES 70

i have never heard of a valvestate that could stand along side of a 800
or better yet a vintage modern tonewise !!!

No, it isnt better but it has a special sound, the JCM 800 dist. sounds too heavy and the dist. of my amp a little havier then the VM dist. And its not better but the Valvestate comes pretty close to it.

vettahead · 02-23-2009, 09:59 AM

The bluesbreaker was horible ! Never played through a soo bad amp.

..... sounds like a case of wrong amp for what your looking for, a bluesbreaker is basically a 45-50 in a box.. i have a genuine 50 and my god the tone is like im playing gods own amp. if ur after down and dirty, it aint for you, sounds nothing like a 900 and never will.

IMHO i double that your valvestate will sound as good as a 800 or 900 cranked man, those thinks cook when juiced, just as all valve amps do, valvestates suffer terriblly at high (gig)volumes with sitting in/on top of a mix. 800's900's justy cut through like a hot knife through butter.

Vintager12 · 02-28-2009, 10:09 AM

Sorry for this thread......

02-22-2009, 05:05 AM	#1 (permalink)
Vintager12 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 693	My amp My marshall amp is a modded vintage modern and it is a better amp then the marshall bluesbreaker Ive compared my amp with a TSL122 a JCM 800 A JCM 900 and the bluesbreaker. Results of the test : TSL was not as good as what i thought my modded valvestate sounds better I know it is not an amp to turn on and play but you must take your time to get a cool rock tone out of it. So a guy helped me to get a good rock tone out of it but my modded valvestate was allways better The JCM 800 was a great good sounding amp and I had a nice rock tone when i turned it on ! But it was not soundin much better as my modded Valvestate. to get an impression of how my modded valvestate sounds listen to this amp : YouTube - FJA Modded Marshall 2203 high gain 2 this JCM amp just sounds a little heavier The JCM 900 was a great amp and sounded 30 % better as the Modded valvestate to me. Lets hope i can buy one after a long time saveing my money The bluesbreaker was horible ! Never played through a soo bad amp. Cheers. __________________ The Emperor of the Vintage Modern.

02-22-2009, 06:07 AM	#2 (permalink)
jtm-series player Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: europe/austria/graz Posts: 354	Re: My amp __________________ WTB: Ibanez AD202 Analog Delay (european version) Marshall JTM622 + JTMc 220 Marshall JTM600 + JTMc 410 Marshall JTM312 + JTMc 112 Marshall 2558 (silver jubilee) for sale

02-22-2009, 08:20 AM	#3 (permalink)
crossroadsnyc Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: NYC Posts: 444	Re: My amp What mods were done to your Valvestate? From what I recall, you only mentioned placing a Marshall Guv'nor pedal in front of it. Anything special I'm missing out on here? And no, you can't hide behind "musicianship secrecy" when you make an outlandish comment (or series of) like this...you have to be able to back up these claims somewhat. I can appreciate you liking the tone you are getting from your rig, but to say that the combination of a Valvestate & Marshall Guv'nor pedal are not only equal to, but greater than, a TSL / JCM800 / Bluesbreaker is, at best, wishful thinking. Particularly in the case of the JCM800 & the Bluesbreaker, you are talking about two of the most revered amps in Marshall history. *edit: how did you arrive to the conclusion that the JCM900 sounds 30% better than the Valvestate?

02-23-2009, 09:59 AM	#11 (permalink)
vettahead Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: blackburn, uk Posts: 11	Re: My amp The bluesbreaker was horible ! Never played through a soo bad amp. ..... sounds like a case of wrong amp for what your looking for, a bluesbreaker is basically a 45-50 in a box.. i have a genuine 50 and my god the tone is like im playing gods own amp. if ur after down and dirty, it aint for you, sounds nothing like a 900 and never will. IMHO i double that your valvestate will sound as good as a 800 or 900 cranked man, those thinks cook when juiced, just as all valve amps do, valvestates suffer terriblly at high (gig)volumes with sitting in/on top of a mix. 800's900's justy cut through like a hot knife through butter. __________________ MY GEAR Genuine Marshall 67 jtm50 Black Flag (reverse logo) Marshalll 4x10 Basketweave Cab Mesa boogie DC-10 Line 6 Vetta stack( i know i know, great for live though) 01 PRS singlecut (10 top,pre lawsuit) 84 Tokai love rock (cherry sunburst) 87 Tokai Breezy sound tele Alpine white 88 USA Fender strat 76 ephihone 335 with 66 335 pups in it Taylor 415 ltd edition numbered 4 of 25 Airbrushed Gibson sg 79 washburn falcon

02-28-2009, 10:09 AM	#12 (permalink)
Vintager12 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 693	Re: My amp Sorry for this thread...... __________________ The Emperor of the Vintage Modern.

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