Question about stage monitors

Silverbursted · 02-12-2009, 08:44 PM

I was offered an opportunity to get a 2x10 JBL stage monitor for a really good price. I don't play out, but would like to get a bigger sound (for myself) out of my 401. Would a stage monitor do the same for me as an extension cabinet?

Gain Man · 02-13-2009, 07:01 AM

No, it would not. Stage monitors are designed to cover the entire audible frequency range flat out. Guitar speakers are different: they cut the deep low end and the treble.

So if you want tone, leave it. If you want the ultimate buzz without balls, get the stage monitor.

MKB · 02-13-2009, 01:28 PM

If the drivers in the monitor are usable as guitar speakers (as many speakers are, such as Altecs and EV's), and if you bypass the crossover and disconnect the tweeters, it could do an excellent job. Might be worth doing a bit of research to see if this is possible.

Silverbursted · 02-13-2009, 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gain Man

No, it would not. Stage monitors are designed to cover the entire audible frequency range flat out. Guitar speakers are different: they cut the deep low end and the treble.

So if you want tone, leave it. If you want the ultimate buzz without balls, get the stage monitor.

Thats what I thought. Puts the entire band in your face, sort of speak, huh?

American Viking · 02-14-2009, 08:00 PM

if you want big sound a head and a 4x12 cab is the way to go.

Silverbursted · 02-14-2009, 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by American Viking

if you want big sound a head and a 4x12 cab is the way to go.

There is no doubt about that, but space is my big problem. Oh how I wish I could accommodate a DSL50 with a 4x12.

JohnH · 02-14-2009, 11:54 PM

If the cab is very cheap ie low enough to take a risk (your call), and if the following are both true, I think it could be good:

If, with two 10" drivers, it is currently 4 ohms, suggesting that both drivers are 8 ohms, and if you rewire them in series you can make it 16Ohms. Then you can use this cab in addition to your 16 Ohm internal speaker, with amp set at 8 Ohms. That way, you are not entirely foregoing the natural sound of the amp speaker.

If it has a separate tweeter, that you can disconnect (maybe make it switcheable). Clean electric sounds are quite nice through a full range speaker, but overdriven ones are horrid.

I think theres a chance that this might actually be a cool set up. Another use of it will be as amplification for an acoustic guitar. I know that the 401, through a full range speaker, sounds quite good in this role on the clean channel.

Heres what I know: When I changed my DSL401 internal speaker to a V30, I kept the old Goldback stock speaker. Recently I built it into its own closed back cab, with a couple of switcheable piezo tweeters. It sounds good to me, and what you suggest might be similar, given the points above. I wrote up my speaker build, and also linked in some recorded sound clips. You can hear it with and without the tweeters, and how nasty it is with overdrive unless the tweeters are switched off! The description is post 1 and sound clips linked in post 7 of this Guitarnuts thread:

GuitarNutz 2 - Speaker cab for electric and acoustic

John

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Gain Man Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 16	Re: Question about stage monitors No, it would not. Stage monitors are designed to cover the entire audible frequency range flat out. Guitar speakers are different: they cut the deep low end and the treble. So if you want tone, leave it. If you want the ultimate buzz without balls, get the stage monitor.

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MKB Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 203	Re: Question about stage monitors If the drivers in the monitor are usable as guitar speakers (as many speakers are, such as Altecs and EV's), and if you bypass the crossover and disconnect the tweeters, it could do an excellent job. Might be worth doing a bit of research to see if this is possible.

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American Viking Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: RICHMOND, VIRGINIA Posts: 1,510	Re: Question about stage monitors if you want big sound a head and a 4x12 cab is the way to go. __________________ -I'd rather be a good liver than have one...

02-14-2009, 11:54 PM	#7 (permalink)
JohnH Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Wollongong NSW Posts: 640	Re: Question about stage monitors If the cab is very cheap ie low enough to take a risk (your call), and if the following are both true, I think it could be good: If, with two 10" drivers, it is currently 4 ohms, suggesting that both drivers are 8 ohms, and if you rewire them in series you can make it 16Ohms. Then you can use this cab in addition to your 16 Ohm internal speaker, with amp set at 8 Ohms. That way, you are not entirely foregoing the natural sound of the amp speaker. If it has a separate tweeter, that you can disconnect (maybe make it switcheable). Clean electric sounds are quite nice through a full range speaker, but overdriven ones are horrid. I think theres a chance that this might actually be a cool set up. Another use of it will be as amplification for an acoustic guitar. I know that the 401, through a full range speaker, sounds quite good in this role on the clean channel. Heres what I know: When I changed my DSL401 internal speaker to a V30, I kept the old Goldback stock speaker. Recently I built it into its own closed back cab, with a couple of switcheable piezo tweeters. It sounds good to me, and what you suggest might be similar, given the points above. I wrote up my speaker build, and also linked in some recorded sound clips. You can hear it with and without the tweeters, and how nasty it is with overdrive unless the tweeters are switched off! The description is post 1 and sound clips linked in post 7 of this Guitarnuts thread: GuitarNutz 2 - Speaker cab for electric and acoustic John __________________ DSL401 8412 cab Crate Powerblock 1 x 12 Vintage 30 cab '76 Shergold Masquerader '93 Les Paul Studio '83 Roadstar

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