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Unread 02-17-2012, 07:56 PM   #1 (permalink)
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ceriatone = marshall??

hi i was wondering if the ceriatone amps have marshall tone? how good is the quallity? im most likey going to sell my AVT head and my mg100fx combo and was thinking of getting one of the ceriatone amps beause i heard they are good clones and cheaper. would this be a good idea? because i cant play o my avt head. honestly i would rather plug my guitar into a rats ass and probably get a better tone. any suggestions ideas comments? thanks
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Unread 02-17-2012, 08:00 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: ceriatone = marshall??

Most people who have Ceriatones are very happy with them.
You'll be trading up, from what you describe.
Which one are you thinking about?
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Unread 02-17-2012, 08:12 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: ceriatone = marshall??

the 2203, 2555 or the 2550. and the build quality? i play fridays with the band and sometimes its a hassle to get to the gig a few hits and dings on the way wouldnt hurt is right? and do these specific amps do good clean tones?
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Re: ceriatone = marshall??

I'd love a chupacabra. Badass. Good amps all around from everything I've heard.
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Unread 02-18-2012, 04:35 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Re: ceriatone = marshall??

I own a Ceriatone Dumble clone, and I am VERY happy with it. Nik (owner of Ceriatone) is a really great guy when it comes to customer service, and his team builds some really great amps. If I hadn't found the JCM 800 I now own, I would have bought another Ceriatone. You really can't go wrong ordering from Nik.
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Re: ceriatone = marshall??

I have a plexi clone I've been real happy with, it gets great cleans, but I agree with above about the chupa, they are monster gain amps that sound great
Cant beat them for the money, I'd buy another one in a second, they are great amps for modding also
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Re: ceriatone = marshall??

Yeah but will for example a Ceriatone 2203 sound exactly like a Marshall 2203?
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Re: ceriatone = marshall??

my experience with the ceriatone is this:
good quality build. had to change the iron to sound good. sounded like a marshall to me.
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Re: ceriatone = marshall??

Would the tone be identical or will it sound a little unusuall to the experienced ear ?
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Re: ceriatone = marshall??

Identical is a subjective word, I've had 2 of the same Marshall heads from the same year that were slightly different..
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Unread 02-18-2012, 02:54 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Re: ceriatone = marshall??

Hi,

as said above the quality is very good but I do not like the transformers.

I have had several Marshalls and their clones - my Ceriatone 1987 sounded ok at the beginning but then the power transformer blew - I had it replaced with a big fat Marshall transformer and now I love it. It is the best nmv amp I have ever had - it sounds fantastic!

I also have a Bugera 1960 which has a very good clean Hendrix sound and my bass player has a Linnemann JTM-45 but neither of these are as 'Marshall' as the Ceriatone.

Buy any Ceriatone kit and get a Marshall transformer - a winning team!

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Re: ceriatone = marshall??

there is a fellow in mccordsville indiana,who is building some great marshall clones.you'll see his heads on e-bay,he has super detailed descriptions, his name is terry. his 1974x clones sound very marshall.be warned,they are as loud as some 50 watt heads,but the build quality is #1.mine is modded with a parallel/cascade preamp switch,and has nos caps,resitors and tubes..he uses a very nice tube depot plexi-box..i give this clone the same respect as my marshalls. i have a 2203x 800 marshall,love it,the 1974x head will sound a bit more vintage marshall.

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Re: ceriatone = marshall??

I have two JTM45's
One is a Ceriatone with Marstrans in it.
The other was built by Will Roemermann in California. He's Nics US service guy.
It has MM's in it, Both are simply outstanding.
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Re: ceriatone = marshall??

thanks but isnt he located overseas? wouldnt that mean that id need to pay atleast 200 more for a amp from him? with that money i could probably ust find an original 2203 or no?
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Re: ceriatone = marshall??

If I recall, he's in Malaysia. It's considerably more than a first class stamp. But I think they're way less than an original.
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Re: ceriatone = marshall??

Shipping from Malaysia is expensive. The Ceriatone hand wiring is top notch and the amps sound fantastic. Having owned and played many vintage Marshalls I will put my Ceriatone (stock transformers and all) right up there with them. Here are some details on my 2204HW: Nad: 2204 hw clips are posted later in the thread.
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Re: ceriatone = marshall??

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Yeah but will for example a Ceriatone 2203 sound exactly like a Marshall 2203?
Not quite.

It will sound good, but an original 2203 is going to be much better.

Ceriatone have great layouts, kits and are on the cheaper side but I did not like their parts. I dealt with Nik before and he was super cool about everything. Definitely a man that's in to his work but I assembled a 2204 Ceriatone kit and used the transformers from my old '87 Marshall 2204 and was not too impressed. I really think it goes down to the quality of parts. Now I am not saying the amp sounded bad at all. It sounded quite good, but it didn't sound as good as my Marshall. It is cool that he has some original designs. I think that if they upped the quality of parts a little bit they could be a bigger contender in the amp world. His build quality is also pretty good from what I hear.

If you're going to go with a kit though, Triode Electronics in Chicago has full amp kits with layouts as well. Much better components and you will save money as you won't have to ship anything internationally. Also the Triode kits come with Classic Tone transformers which are also AWESOME.
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Not quite.

It will sound good, but an original 2203 is going to be much better.

Ceriatone have great layouts, kits and are on the cheaper side but I did not like their parts. I dealt with Nik before and he was super cool about everything. Definitely a man that's in to his work but I assembled a 2204 Ceriatone kit and used the transformers from my old '87 Marshall 2204 and was not too impressed. I really think it goes down to the quality of parts. Now I am not saying the amp sounded bad at all. It sounded quite good, but it didn't sound as good as my Marshall. It is cool that he has some original designs. I think that if they upped the quality of parts a little bit they could be a bigger contender in the amp world. His build quality is also pretty good from what I hear.

If you're going to go with a kit though, Triode Electronics in Chicago has full amp kits with layouts as well. Much better components and you will save money as you won't have to ship anything internationally. Also the Triode kits come with Classic Tone transformers which are also AWESOME.
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Re: ceriatone = marshall??

I can't speak for how they sound, but I can speak for ceriatones service. Really easy to deal with and they make amazing hand built amps for the money. Great little company.

But I would just seek out an original, with shipping it would work out to be really similar in price if not cheaper, and then you have an original Marshall that will always be worth money. More importantly you will get to experience the whole..."I have a real 2203" vibe.

I think clones are better suited for really expensive vintage amps or super expensive boutique amps like matchless or unattainable amps like Dumble and Trainwreck.
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Re: ceriatone = marshall??

For those complaining that the parts are of lower quality, you've got to remember that not everyone buying a Ceriatone has the money for top notched quality parts. This is also taking into account that local Malaysian bands won't even have the cash to buy the standard setup, let alone pay for upgrades. However, I'm sure Nik will be able to accommodate you with regards to getting upgraded parts...
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