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Unread 10-28-2011, 02:58 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Question about Hot-Rod Marshalls

Question about Hot-Rod Marshalls.Both modified and amps like Lee jackson and Splawn.
Let me preface this by saying I'm looking for a Hot Rod Marshall in a box style pedall.
Pretty much most of the modified Marshall pedals, like Zvex Distortion, etc, are advertised as 'Hot rod Plexi pedals'..I guess a Brown sound.
I dont know to much about any Hpt Rod JCM800 in a box pedals, although i think the Tonebone classic may be a Hot Rod JCM800 pedal, but I'm not sure..maybe that what be might I'm looking for.
Anyway, back to my question;

Is a real Hot Rod Modified marshall Plexi AMP any different than a Hot Rod modified JCM 800 AMP? Then is a Hot Rox Plexi AMP or hot rodded JCM800 AMP very different than an Splawn Hot Rod AMP? If so How and why.

I know this is kind of vague..hope you catch my drift.

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Unread 10-28-2011, 03:34 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Question about Hot-Rod Marshalls

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Question about Hot-Rod Marshalls.Both modified and amps like Lee jackson and Soldano and Splawn.
Let me preface this by saying I'm looking for a Hot Rod Marshall in a box style pedall.
Pretty much most of the modified Marshall pedals, like Zvex Distortion, etc, are advertised as 'Hot rod Plexi pedals'..I guess a Brown sound.
I dont know to much about any SLO in a box pedals, although i think the Tonebone classic may be a Hot Rod JCM800 pedal, but I'm not sure..maybe that what be might I'm looking for.
Anyway, back to my question;

Is a real Hot Rod Modified marshall Plexi AMP any different than a Hot Rod modified JCM 800 AMP? Then is a Hot Rox Plexi AMP or hot rodded JCM800 AMP very different than an Splawn or SLO AMP? If so How and why.

I know this is kind of vague..hope you catch my drift.
A modded Plexi will sound different than a mdded JCM800 because they are different amps. They both will have a hot rodded MARSHALL thing going on. Buy a Splawn Quickrod which has 3 gears/modes (modded plexi, modded 800, super modded 800) The Splawn will get you all kinds of hot rodded Marshall sounds and they are built like a tank. You can get them new for $1,850.






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Re: Question about Hot-Rod Marshalls

Sorry, I took a closer look at your post and saw that you are asking about a pedal to get the modded Marshall tone with. Check out the Suhr Riot distortion pedal. I think that will do the trick.

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Re: Question about Hot-Rod Marshalls

Religious moniker pimping a religious amp maker?

There's scripture inside of those Splawn chassis, yo.

j/k

But there is something written in those chassis, I used to own a couple before I moved on.
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Religious moniker pimping a religious amp maker?

There's scripture inside of those Splawn chassis, yo.

j/k

But there is something written in those chassis, I used to own a couple before I moved on.
The guy playing in the first clip I posted is playing in a band with a pentagram in their logo. The last time I checked that was not a Christian symbol. A Splawn will still sound great even if you believe in the Tooth Fairy or Santa Claus. Splawn amps sound amazing and it is hard to beat them at their price point. You can buy one and write 666 all over the thing if you want. Check out the clips and don't wet your pants, Christians are not coming to get you. Relax and check out the Suhr Riot pedal clip also. I don't know if John Suhr has ever even cracked open a bible. It really does not have anything to do with getting great tone in the first place. A Splawn Quickrod will do a great job pulling off both modded Plexi and 800 sounds. The Marshall JVM is more versatile, but the modded Splawn tones are better in my opinion. I have owned both. If I was just playing rock clubs I would never have sold my Splawns. You can buy a Friedman Marsha, but that will run you $3,500.

PS: Touching the knobs on a Splawn will not burn your hands or anything. Grow up.
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Sorry, I took a closer look at your post and saw that you are asking about a pedal to get the modded Marshall tone with. Check out the Suhr Riot distortion pedal. I think that will do the trick.

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Suhr riot is for a clean amp, it's too much pedal for dirty.
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Suhr riot is for a clean amp, it's too much pedal for dirty.
It sounds like he wants a modded Marshall in box sounding pedal. The Suhr Riot pedal lives for that kind of stuff. I don't think he was asking about an overdrive pedal to boost a Plexi or 800 into modded tone territory. The Suhr will take a clean channel in modded Marshall land and it will do lower gain settings fairly well too.
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Re: Question about Hot-Rod Marshalls

You mentioned Radial Tonebones.....very good pedals...but I think the "Classic" is more American sounding.....I'm sure it kix...but maybe you should check into the "Hot British" or the 2 channel "Plexitube"......I've played thru the HB and it kicks all kinds of azz....and you could replace the 12ax7 with something like a vintage Mullard or RCA.....everyone's going to have their own opinion, and no one's really wrong....but Those tonebones are designed to sound like and be compatable with Marshall....especially with an amp like a SuperLead or other NMV Marshalls....Steve Lukather endorsed it to me.....
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The guy playing in the first clip I posted is playing in a band with a pentagram in their logo. The last time I checked that was not a Christian symbol. A Splawn will still sound great even if you believe in the Tooth Fairy or Santa Claus. Splawn amps sound amazing and it is hard to beat them at their price point. You can buy one and write 666 all over the thing if you want. Check out the clips and don't wet your pants, Christians are not coming to get you. Relax and check out the Suhr Riot pedal clip also. I don't know if John Suhr has ever even cracked open a bible. It really does not have anything to do with getting great tone in the first place. A Splawn Quickrod will do a great job pulling off both modded Plexi and 800 sounds. The Marshall JVM is more versatile, but the modded Splawn tones are better in my opinion. I have owned both. If I was just playing rock clubs I would never have sold my Splawns. You can buy a Friedman Marsha, but that will run you $3,500.

PS: Touching the knobs on a Splawn will not burn your hands or anything. Grow up.
You can pickup an old JMP for about 1K and have Dave Friedman mod it for $500 to $900 depending on what you want done, thats what i did.

Otherwise a Friedman or Naked amp will set you back about $3500.
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Re: Question about Hot-Rod Marshalls

I was going to say Carl Martin Plexitone is your only choise but man that Suhr Riot kicks serious ass!

When I started to play again 5 years ago I had to borrow our other guitaris's back up rig which consisted of an old Crate Blue Voodoo 50w head and an AVT 4x12 cab. And the Plexitone. We played mostly covers, Maiden, Priest, Accept, Running Wild etc "old school" stuff. The Plexitone thru the Crate's clean channel got me very, very, very close to the Hot-Rodded Marshall tone I was after.

I've got no first hand experience of the Suhr but it sure does sound like it's a good competitor to the Plexitone.
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Re: Question about Hot-Rod Marshalls

When I go to jam nites, I often have to play through pedal boards that 'just don't sound like my 2204'. So I take along my Crate 508 combo, which is the size of a school lunch box, patch the line out into the host's amp and......BAMMMMM....Marshall. Here is one for sale on craigslist.

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Re: Question about Hot-Rod Marshalls

The RIOT sounds great. It does remind me of a PROCO RAT.
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Re: Question about Hot-Rod Marshalls

Or you can buy a 6100 and have all those sounds and more from a real Marshall!
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I have to give props to the Carl Martin Plexi-Tone as well. I can run that thing into my Fender Twin Reverb and get Marshall tones and even a ballpark filthy Mesa vibe as well.
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tone bone hot British is up that alley. Plexi-tube can still do it too. it does a mix.
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Re: Question about Hot-Rod Marshalls

Running any sort of distortion FX in front of a dirty amp will only work if you are Neil Young.

I'm a little confused here, because once you start talking about hot rodded Marshall amps, that opens the door to a wide variety of tones. Trying to find a specific tone out of a pedal is dependent on the type of amp used and how it is set up. I guess first you need an idea of what "your" ideal hot rodded Marshall tone is.
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This is about as Hot-rod as i want right here.
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Re: Question about Hot-Rod Marshalls

I have to say I am a big fan of the Splawn amps. they simply rock out. built very well too. very high quality. the quick rod has alot of great tone available. the cool part about them is you can pick your head box, vinyl color, chassis color, etc.... all for no extra charge. now THAT is cool to me.
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