JMP 2204 - AC/DC Sound

bon83 · 10-26-2011, 04:34 AM

Hey guys,

just wanna ask what kind of tubes you recommend for a nice crunchy late 70s AC/DC Angus sound?

Playing a 79`2204 and a 1960BX Cab.

And all I need now are some proper tubes. currently there are JJ`s Ecc 83 in the preamp but I really don`t know how old they are....
The EL 34, I have no idea what brand they are, no lettering on them....

Thanks for your help

Rock on.....

Bon

peterichardz · 10-26-2011, 05:48 AM

JJ 12Ax7's and JJ E34L's in mine. Check out the sound at Sneaky Pete | Free Music, Tour Dates, Photos, Videos

Not AC/DC songs, but you'll get the idea.

avivoni · 10-26-2011, 08:32 AM

aren't you nailing ac dc tones with stock tubes the amp came with? you should. it's allways nicer going nos tubes a la mullards (these are the tubes i have in my 2204 and they absolutly nail the ac dc tones).

madmmx · 10-27-2011, 05:02 AM

I agree ..... A 2204 should nail AC/DC without even trying unless you are using a strat or something with single coils

CAPDUNN · 10-27-2011, 05:56 AM

They do not use much pre amp gain. They crank the master and get gain from the power tubes. Bass 4, mids 6, hi 6 and tweek from there. Angus uses 25s and Malcolm uses Vin30s. Most people play AC/DC with way too much distortion.

bon83 · 10-27-2011, 05:59 AM

maybe you didn`t notice that I was asking for tubes....
Because I wanna change them cause I don`t know how old they are....

Sure, that amp delivers Ac/Dc tone. But what brand of tubes are close to the sound of the amp with its original tubes the amp came with in 1979????

that`s the question guys....

cheers

bon

avivoni · 10-27-2011, 06:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bon83

maybe you didn`t notice that I was asking for tubes....
Because I wanna change them cause I don`t know how old they are....

Sure, that amp delivers Ac/Dc tone. But what brand of tubes are close to the sound of the amp with its original tubes the amp came with in 1979????

that`s the question guys....

cheers

bon

i think i covered that for you in my reply...
maybe someone will tell us what tubes were stock for marshall amps at around 78/79...???

jcmjmp · 10-27-2011, 07:54 AM

I think that you'll get closer with proper speaker vs different tubes. What kind of speakers are you running now? Also, what pickups are in your guitar?
I find that the Gibson T-Tops are part of the tone (although I don't know whether Angus used them). Of all my guitars, the LP with T-Tops sounds best for AC/DC.

CAPDUNN · 10-27-2011, 05:32 PM

Get a tone pack from Marty.

bon83 · 10-27-2011, 06:14 PM

thanks for you reply guys...

speakers are Greenbacks G12M

Pickups are angus Sig and 57+...

thanks

bon

CAPDUNN · 10-27-2011, 08:23 PM

MartyStrat54 sells the tone packs. They are pre amp tubes picked for each slot to bring out the best sounds from your amp.

HoboMan · 10-27-2011, 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bon83

Hey guys,

just wanna ask what kind of tubes you recommend for a nice crunchy late 70s AC/DC Angus sound?

Playing a 79`2204 and a 1960BX Cab.

And all I need now are some proper tubes. currently there are JJ`s Ecc 83 in the preamp but I really don`t know how old they are....
The EL 34, I have no idea what brand they are, no lettering on them....

Thanks for your help

Rock on.....

Bon

Can we see some close up pics of your SG?
It looks really cool.

bon83 · 10-29-2011, 07:37 AM

Quote:

Can we see some close up pics of your SG?
It looks really cool.

Sure!
Here you go.....

The Custom:

and the Angus Sig.

HoboMan · 10-30-2011, 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bon83

Sure!
Here you go.....

The Custom:

and the Angus Sig.

DAMN, I LOVE the SG Custom. Just like the one Angus used in the Let There Be Rock movie.

Is it a late 60s or a newer reissue?

bon83 · 10-30-2011, 11:19 AM

Quote:

DAMN, I LOVE the SG Custom. Just like the one Angus used in the Let There Be Rock movie.

Is it a late 60s or a newer reissue?

Yeah, I always wanted that custom angus used in that movie. And that SG was the closest I could get

It`s not a late 60s it`s a 2007 Limited run. guitar of the week 37 I think
But yeah, it`s a hell of a axe.....

Quote:

maybe someone will tell us what tubes were stock for marshall amps at around 78/79...???

that`s what I´m talking about. Any info on that would be great...

cheers

bon

hbach · 10-30-2011, 11:28 AM

If you want a CP tube try a "Prefered Series 7025" in V1. More headroom, clear and punchy. You might get something similar at TAD in D-Land.

About AC/DC being played with too much gain. Even Malcom did it for a while using a Mesa

Nice guitars by the way!

TradAmpGuy · 10-30-2011, 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CAPDUNN

They do not use much pre amp gain. They crank the master and get gain from the power tubes. Bass 4, mids 6, hi 6 and tweek from there. Angus uses 25s and Malcolm uses Vin30s. Most people play AC/DC with way too much distortion.

+1 on watching the gain... AC/DC is pretty clean, especially going back to the Bon years.

10-26-2011, 04:34 AM	#1 (permalink)
bon83 Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Germany Posts: 55	JMP 2204 - AC/DC Sound Hey guys, just wanna ask what kind of tubes you recommend for a nice crunchy late 70s AC/DC Angus sound? Playing a 79`2204 and a 1960BX Cab. And all I need now are some proper tubes. currently there are JJ`s Ecc 83 in the preamp but I really don`t know how old they are.... The EL 34, I have no idea what brand they are, no lettering on them.... Thanks for your help Rock on..... Bon __________________ 1979 JMP 2204 2005 DSL 50 1960BX Greenbacks 1960A Gibson SG Angus Young Sig Gibson SG Classic Custom (GOTW) 79` "The SG"

10-26-2011, 05:48 AM	#2 (permalink)
peterichardz Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Willard, Ohio Posts: 634	Re: JMP 2204 - AC/DC Sound JJ 12Ax7's and JJ E34L's in mine. Check out the sound at Sneaky Pete \| Free Music, Tour Dates, Photos, Videos Not AC/DC songs, but you'll get the idea. __________________ *The Sneaky Pete Band* *Loud and Proud for 41 years* 2 '77 JMP 50 watt MV's 1 1960AX W G12M's 1 1960A W/ EVM12L's 1 1960A W/ G12 75's 1 1965A Modded & Loaded with 2 EVM12L's 1 112AVT Loaded with EV SRO Seymore Duncan Convertible 100 watt 2 Gibson Les Paul Jr.s Gibson Les Paul Standard Gibson Firebird Epi. Custom Shop Les Paul Jr. Epi. Les Paul Classic Quilt Top Epi. Korina Explorer Epi. Les Paul Chamilien

10-26-2011, 08:32 AM	#3 (permalink)
avivoni Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 1,317	Re: JMP 2204 - AC/DC Sound aren't you nailing ac dc tones with stock tubes the amp came with? you should. it's allways nicer going nos tubes a la mullards (these are the tubes i have in my 2204 and they absolutly nail the ac dc tones).

10-27-2011, 05:02 AM	#4 (permalink)
madmmx Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Warrington, Pa. Posts: 370	Re: JMP 2204 - AC/DC Sound I agree ..... A 2204 should nail AC/DC without even trying unless you are using a strat or something with single coils jcmjmp likes this. __________________ 10 Mesa Lonestar Classic 2x12 79 JMP MK2 100 watt Master Lead 10 Vox AC15HW1 11 American Deluxe Strat 08 American Standard Tele 05 SG Standard 72 Les Paul Deluxe 93 Les Paul Studio 01 Firebird V

10-27-2011, 05:56 AM	#5 (permalink)
CAPDUNN Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: San Diego Posts: 1,650	Re: JMP 2204 - AC/DC Sound They do not use much pre amp gain. They crank the master and get gain from the power tubes. Bass 4, mids 6, hi 6 and tweek from there. Angus uses 25s and Malcolm uses Vin30s. Most people play AC/DC with way too much distortion. TradAmpGuy likes this. __________________ Marshall 6100LM with EL34s and the LM mod removed powering 1960A and B cabinets loaded with a mix of Vintage 30s and G12T75 speakers. Marshall 6101 with EL34s and a Vintage 30. 1912 loaded with a PreRola Greenback. I can't kill this speaker!

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10-27-2011, 05:59 AM	#6 (permalink)
bon83 Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Germany Posts: 55	Re: JMP 2204 - AC/DC Sound maybe you didn`t notice that I was asking for tubes.... Because I wanna change them cause I don`t know how old they are.... Sure, that amp delivers Ac/Dc tone. But what brand of tubes are close to the sound of the amp with its original tubes the amp came with in 1979???? that`s the question guys.... cheers bon __________________ 1979 JMP 2204 2005 DSL 50 1960BX Greenbacks 1960A Gibson SG Angus Young Sig Gibson SG Classic Custom (GOTW) 79` "The SG"

10-27-2011, 07:54 AM	#8 (permalink)
jcmjmp Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 8,116	Re: JMP 2204 - AC/DC Sound I think that you'll get closer with proper speaker vs different tubes. What kind of speakers are you running now? Also, what pickups are in your guitar? I find that the Gibson T-Tops are part of the tone (although I don't know whether Angus used them). Of all my guitars, the LP with T-Tops sounds best for AC/DC. madmmx likes this.

10-27-2011, 05:32 PM	#9 (permalink)
CAPDUNN Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: San Diego Posts: 1,650	Re: JMP 2204 - AC/DC Sound Get a tone pack from Marty. __________________ Marshall 6100LM with EL34s and the LM mod removed powering 1960A and B cabinets loaded with a mix of Vintage 30s and G12T75 speakers. Marshall 6101 with EL34s and a Vintage 30. 1912 loaded with a PreRola Greenback. I can't kill this speaker!

10-27-2011, 06:14 PM	#10 (permalink)
bon83 Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Germany Posts: 55	Re: JMP 2204 - AC/DC Sound thanks for you reply guys... speakers are Greenbacks G12M Pickups are angus Sig and 57+... thanks bon jcmjmp likes this. __________________ 1979 JMP 2204 2005 DSL 50 1960BX Greenbacks 1960A Gibson SG Angus Young Sig Gibson SG Classic Custom (GOTW) 79` "The SG"

10-27-2011, 08:23 PM	#11 (permalink)
CAPDUNN Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: San Diego Posts: 1,650	Re: JMP 2204 - AC/DC Sound MartyStrat54 sells the tone packs. They are pre amp tubes picked for each slot to bring out the best sounds from your amp. __________________ Marshall 6100LM with EL34s and the LM mod removed powering 1960A and B cabinets loaded with a mix of Vintage 30s and G12T75 speakers. Marshall 6101 with EL34s and a Vintage 30. 1912 loaded with a PreRola Greenback. I can't kill this speaker!

10-30-2011, 11:28 AM	#16 (permalink)
hbach Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 1,279	Re: JMP 2204 - AC/DC Sound If you want a CP tube try a "Prefered Series 7025" in V1. More headroom, clear and punchy. You might get something similar at TAD in D-Land. About AC/DC being played with too much gain. Even Malcom did it for a while using a Mesa Nice guitars by the way!

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