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Unread 10-26-2011, 04:34 AM   #1 (permalink)
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JMP 2204 - AC/DC Sound

Hey guys,

just wanna ask what kind of tubes you recommend for a nice crunchy late 70s AC/DC Angus sound?

Playing a 79`2204 and a 1960BX Cab.

And all I need now are some proper tubes. currently there are JJ`s Ecc 83 in the preamp but I really don`t know how old they are....
The EL 34, I have no idea what brand they are, no lettering on them....

Thanks for your help

Rock on.....

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Unread 10-26-2011, 05:48 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: JMP 2204 - AC/DC Sound

JJ 12Ax7's and JJ E34L's in mine. Check out the sound at Sneaky Pete | Free Music, Tour Dates, Photos, Videos

Not AC/DC songs, but you'll get the idea.
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Re: JMP 2204 - AC/DC Sound

aren't you nailing ac dc tones with stock tubes the amp came with? you should. it's allways nicer going nos tubes a la mullards (these are the tubes i have in my 2204 and they absolutly nail the ac dc tones).
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Unread 10-27-2011, 05:02 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: JMP 2204 - AC/DC Sound

I agree ..... A 2204 should nail AC/DC without even trying unless you are using a strat or something with single coils
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Re: JMP 2204 - AC/DC Sound

They do not use much pre amp gain. They crank the master and get gain from the power tubes. Bass 4, mids 6, hi 6 and tweek from there. Angus uses 25s and Malcolm uses Vin30s. Most people play AC/DC with way too much distortion.
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Unread 10-27-2011, 05:59 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Re: JMP 2204 - AC/DC Sound

maybe you didn`t notice that I was asking for tubes....
Because I wanna change them cause I don`t know how old they are....

Sure, that amp delivers Ac/Dc tone. But what brand of tubes are close to the sound of the amp with its original tubes the amp came with in 1979????

that`s the question guys....

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Re: JMP 2204 - AC/DC Sound

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maybe you didn`t notice that I was asking for tubes....
Because I wanna change them cause I don`t know how old they are....

Sure, that amp delivers Ac/Dc tone. But what brand of tubes are close to the sound of the amp with its original tubes the amp came with in 1979????

that`s the question guys....

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i think i covered that for you in my reply...
maybe someone will tell us what tubes were stock for marshall amps at around 78/79...???
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Unread 10-27-2011, 07:54 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Re: JMP 2204 - AC/DC Sound

I think that you'll get closer with proper speaker vs different tubes. What kind of speakers are you running now? Also, what pickups are in your guitar?
I find that the Gibson T-Tops are part of the tone (although I don't know whether Angus used them). Of all my guitars, the LP with T-Tops sounds best for AC/DC.
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Re: JMP 2204 - AC/DC Sound

Get a tone pack from Marty.
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Unread 10-27-2011, 06:14 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Re: JMP 2204 - AC/DC Sound

thanks for you reply guys...

speakers are Greenbacks G12M

Pickups are angus Sig and 57+...


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Re: JMP 2204 - AC/DC Sound

MartyStrat54 sells the tone packs. They are pre amp tubes picked for each slot to bring out the best sounds from your amp.
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Re: JMP 2204 - AC/DC Sound

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Hey guys,

just wanna ask what kind of tubes you recommend for a nice crunchy late 70s AC/DC Angus sound?

Playing a 79`2204 and a 1960BX Cab.

And all I need now are some proper tubes. currently there are JJ`s Ecc 83 in the preamp but I really don`t know how old they are....
The EL 34, I have no idea what brand they are, no lettering on them....

Thanks for your help

Rock on.....

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Can we see some close up pics of your SG?
It looks really cool.
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Re: JMP 2204 - AC/DC Sound

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Can we see some close up pics of your SG?
It looks really cool.
Sure!
Here you go.....

The Custom:









and the Angus Sig.

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Re: JMP 2204 - AC/DC Sound


DAMN, I LOVE the SG Custom. Just like the one Angus used in the Let There Be Rock movie.

Is it a late 60s or a newer reissue?
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Re: JMP 2204 - AC/DC Sound

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DAMN, I LOVE the SG Custom. Just like the one Angus used in the Let There Be Rock movie.

Is it a late 60s or a newer reissue?
Yeah, I always wanted that custom angus used in that movie. And that SG was the closest I could get

It`s not a late 60s it`s a 2007 Limited run. guitar of the week 37 I think
But yeah, it`s a hell of a axe.....

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maybe someone will tell us what tubes were stock for marshall amps at around 78/79...???
that`s what Im talking about. Any info on that would be great...

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Unread 10-30-2011, 11:28 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Re: JMP 2204 - AC/DC Sound

If you want a CP tube try a "Prefered Series 7025" in V1. More headroom, clear and punchy. You might get something similar at TAD in D-Land.

About AC/DC being played with too much gain. Even Malcom did it for a while using a Mesa

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They do not use much pre amp gain. They crank the master and get gain from the power tubes. Bass 4, mids 6, hi 6 and tweek from there. Angus uses 25s and Malcolm uses Vin30s. Most people play AC/DC with way too much distortion.
+1 on watching the gain... AC/DC is pretty clean, especially going back to the Bon years.
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