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Unread 12-02-2008, 03:07 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Haven't heard much about this amp, anyone got anything to say about this amp? Good? Bad? What's it good for? Where is it preferable used? And so on
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I've got a 3203 Artist. Always fancied one after reading reviews. Managed to score one on ebay for 142..... a bargain.
Part of the mini-stack range produced between 1986-1991 so its smaller than 1959/1987/2203/2204 etc. There is a combo version ... 4203 1x12.
It came with its own cabs. 1965/66 4x10's
30 watts output. A hybrid amp but not as we know today i.e a valve preamp and solid state output. Its the other way round , so it is primarily a valve amp.
2 EL34 output valves. An ECC83 and solid state tone network in the preamp.
Master volume with footswitchable clean and boost channels. Has reverb also.
Rear panel has F/X send and return . line out and impedance selector for 4 and 8 ohms.
I'm still working on my tone for this amp but for what i want its great. Classic hard rock crunch. And it sings/wails enough for me for heavy blues rock/psych. Not tried OD/distortion pedals with it . I tend to crank the master vol and use gain knob as vol. Nice with Microvibe/chorus.
I think its a classic rock/blues amp rather than metal. For me its a keeper. But with a VM2266 on its way I suspect i won't get to mess around with it as much as i'd like.
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Does anyone have a PDF copy of the owners manual they could send me as I just bought one off of Ebay? Also, how do Groove tubes sound in the head? I play a lot of Zakk and Slash. Just can't afford the newer amp heads by Marshall. Any info is greatly appreciated.

Also, does anyone run the Marshall 1936 Lead 2x12 cab with this head? I am looking at one now...

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Hey man the amp is killer.I have one in like great condition.With the matching 2-12 a-b cabs even the original covers.It is really deep and thick.I also own a JCM2000 DSL the limited run in Silver.Dont let the 30watt rating on the 3203 fool you.It is loud, great distortion and you can feel it through you when jamming in front of the amp.O.K. my DSL has a bass button but it seems kind of fake its hard to explain the 3203 has a natural sounding thickness which is unreal.The bad thing the original footswitch is plastic?And if you are using a guitar with high gain pickups the clean channel sounds thin.But for gain the best, really out of some jcm800`s and this jcm2000 this has it beat, gain sounding.Im the second owner and still sports German made el34`s.Really I couldnt be happier with the way she sounds.A buddy stopped over the other night and we were doing night prowler same guitars one was my backup.He used the 2000 I used the 3203 and the leads thru the 3203 sounded awesome and quite exact, so if you had the 3203 and the other guitarist has a different marshall head the differences actually sound really tight together.
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Sound fantastic thru the 4x10...gets a little loose with a 4x12... Highly recommended !
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Yea, I have one. Am the original owner and run the 1965B 2x12 with it.
It takes OD pedals well. (TS9, etc.)
FX loop has to be kept clean with electrical contact cleaner, as well as some of the pots. If the loop gets dirty, the amp will drop out randomly. Makes no sense, but it's true. (Amp tech schooled me on this.)
Had a bias pot installed on the back to tweak the power tubes to taste. Also did the C13 mod to warm up the clean channel. Once again, it's a matter of taste. Will probably wire C13 to a switch to act as a "bright" switch.
I have the original manual, but it really says nothing of value.
I could scan it and send PDF if you want it?
Any 2 button footswitch works with this amp. (I have a Crate that works fine.)
Nice thing about this amp is it sounds good at low volumes due to the SS front end. Sounds good at high volumes due to the EL34 power section.
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Does anyone have a PDF copy of the owners manual they could send me as I just bought one off of Ebay? Also, how do Groove tubes sound in the head? I play a lot of Zakk and Slash. Just can't afford the newer amp heads by Marshall. Any info is greatly appreciated.

Also, does anyone run the Marshall 1936 Lead 2x12 cab with this head? I am looking at one now...

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if you're going to get CP (current production) tubes i'd just get soem JJ's man. solid,reliable and cheap. GT's are rebranded and ass-pensive.
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if you're going to get CP (current production) tubes i'd just get soem JJ's man. solid,reliable and cheap. GT's are rebranded and ass-pensive.
Yea, JJ's are fine. Only issue I had with them was the 12ax7's are harsh in a class A circuit.

Anyone try the reissue Mullards 12ax7's yet?

I can't say enough good things about Tung-Sol reissues in the pre. (have not tried their power tubes yet.) Best new production 12ax7's IMHO. At least in Class A and Fender amps. Just amazing.

Doesn't really apply to the 3203 because it's a PI anyway.
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Very happy with mine. Run through a 1965 with 10's. An EQ dials in your preference very well.
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Yea, I have one. Am the original owner and run the 1965B 2x12 with it.
It takes OD pedals well. (TS9, etc.)
FX loop has to be kept clean with electrical contact cleaner, as well as some of the pots. If the loop gets dirty, the amp will drop out randomly. Makes no sense, but it's true. (Amp tech schooled me on this.)
Had a bias pot installed on the back to tweak the power tubes to taste. Also did the C13 mod to warm up the clean channel. Once again, it's a matter of taste. Will probably wire C13 to a switch to act as a "bright" switch.
I have the original manual, but it really says nothing of value.
I could scan it and send PDF if you want it?
Any 2 button footswitch works with this amp. (I have a Crate that works fine.)
Nice thing about this amp is it sounds good at low volumes due to the SS front end. Sounds good at high volumes due to the EL34 power section.
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Hi Mike and sorry for bumping such an old thread!

I just bought an Artist 3203+1961A. Of course I signed up for the forum!

The unit seem to have dropped out completely thus, needing some expertise advice. There is just a humming, no sound of the guitar. I know the seller has open it up and removed and cleaned everything and i wonder if he has done something wrong putting everything back. I spotted your comment about the manual, perhaps if you have time you can send it to me and I can try to see whats wrong with the unit. I think its in good shape, something is fishy.

Thanks a lot!
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Hi Mike and sorry for bumping such an old thread!

I just bought an Artist 3203+1961A. Of course I signed up for the forum!

The unit seem to have dropped out completely thus, needing some expertise advice. There is just a humming, no sound of the guitar. I know the seller has open it up and removed and cleaned everything and i wonder if he has done something wrong putting everything back. I spotted your comment about the manual, perhaps if you have time you can send it to me and I can try to see whats wrong with the unit. I think its in good shape, something is fishy.

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Clean all the jacks with cleaner, and try a jumper wire in the f/x loop.

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Clean all the jacks with cleaner, and try a jumper wire in the f/x loop.

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Hi Ken and Thank You.

Just a clarification, a jumper wire as in my guitar cable or an additional wire that I put in the f/x loop and to where? My guitar? Sorry, my technical knowledge is on level crap when it comes to Marshall.
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Hi Ken and Thank You.

Just a clarification, a jumper wire as in my guitar cable or an additional wire that I put in the f/x loop and to where? My guitar? Sorry, my technical knowledge is on level crap when it comes to Marshall.
A guitar cable; a 4" long one like you use to put pedals together in a chain. Plug it in to the loop, in both jacks as if it was a pedal. That's a common cure for what you describe on these amps.

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A guitar cable; a 4" long one like you use to put pedals together in a chain. Plug it in to the loop, in both jacks as if it was a pedal. That's a common cure for what you describe on these amps.

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Sorry Ken, F/x = Effects send -return?

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Sorry Ken, F/x = Effects send -return?

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You might not have an F/X loop; I'm not familiar with your amp. I was thinking of the Mosfet Lead 100...similar in some ways. But if you have a loop, yes, it's marked 'send' and 'return'. They frequently lose their connection and a jumper will restore it.

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Thanks Ken I have tried this but it seems it still humming without sound. The little ECC 33 or what the name is of the little tube to the left of the big ones, can this tube be inserted in the wrong way? The guy says he removed it and checked it.

The big tubes (EL 34) are lighting up but the little "12A etc" to the left is not. Perhaps its not meant to. Sorry for bombarding people with questions of this kind but its weird that its not working. Its an Artist 3203 1987

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BY THE WAY: the guy said he removed the reverb cables (red cable, should it go to the left and the black cable to the right?)

I also have it on '8 OHM'
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Thanks Ken I have tried this but it seems it still humming without sound. The little ECC 33 or what the name is of the little tube to the left of the big ones, can this tube be inserted in the wrong way? The guy says he removed it and checked it.

The big tubes (EL 34) are lighting up but the little "12A etc" to the left is not. Perhaps its not meant to. Sorry for bombarding people with questions of this kind but its weird that its not working. Its an Artist 3203 1987

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BY THE WAY: the guy said he removed the reverb cables (red cable, should it go to the left and the black cable to the right?)

I also have it on '8 OHM'
Tubes should light up! They only go in one way. Try replacing it. Can't help on the reverb but once the amp is working it will only function one way.

Try replacing the 12ax7 tube; it only costs $10 for a cheap one.

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Did this amp work before it was sold to you?
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I just bought one of these as well.
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I just bought one of these as well.
AWESOME.

Let us know what you think when you get it. You sounded like you were up to something when you said you were trying to fulfill a tonal need.

Interested in your opinion of the amp.
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Hey guys. Have been trying for over a week to get it working and it just makes me wanna...I dont want to say kill...but hurt somebody really bad. The phase inverter...when I try to swap it, it doesnt sink down easily in its spot, I have to use some force and it just bends the golden sticks( yes I tried with a EH 5751 good choice.) Btw, I have just bent it back but does this pose a threat to the amp in any way ( provided that I get it to work at some point)

Anyway, I have NO sound. NADA. NOTHING. The tubes fires up correctly, the pi does not. Even when I think I have got it right it doesnt light up. I sure as hell dont get any sound from it.

Pardon my french...I was just so happy to finally have found this tube and I dont know what to do. Dont want to spend too much money on fixing it since I traveled 700 km to pick it up...should I mentioned I crashed my car ( albeit softly but still) in a pile of snow ruing my front lights...(nothing happened to the marshall though) haha oh well...thank god I still have my fenders safe and sound and WORKING with my old amp.
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Kudos to everyone at this forum for assisting me with advice and constructive thoughts. I did appreciate it!
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The phase inverter...when I try to swap it, it doesnt sink down easily in its spot, I have to use some force and it just bends the golden sticks( .

Um...if the golden sticks are the tube pins, they shouldn't bend. You'll notice they are in a semi-circular pattern and only fit the socket one way. Maybe you aren't lining it up right and thus bent the pins? Try a new tube there.

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These are great amps. I just sold one, and I have no regrets owning it AT ALL! It had a surprisingly good clean for a Marshall, the crunch was among the 800 line, and it had a descent reverb. I have both 1966 and 1965 cabs, so it sound great through both. My favorite was the 4x10 B cab with the 2x12 top cab. The amp had no problem running both cabs, and sounded great. Good luck with yours.
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Cheers Ken, yes I do have them in the right position but alas, they dont fit thus making me use force and them ending up being bent. I have bent them back but can I use them? Will they leak or anything? Dangerous?
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Just wanted to get back to everyone that helped me out during the 'dark age' a while back: Everything is sorted, the amp is brilliant and I ended up getting to know a Marshall specialist running his own service company just blocks away from me. All well that ends well! Happy New Year's everyone and many thanks from Sweden
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Just wanted to get back to everyone that helped me out during the 'dark age' a while back: Everything is sorted, the amp is brilliant and I ended up getting to know a Marshall specialist running his own service company just blocks away from me. All well that ends well! Happy New Year's everyone and many thanks from Sweden
The problem was oxidation and it needed replacement of pots and pi. The footswitch was weird alltogether but he fixed that too.
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My Artist recently began acting up and I believe it has the same issue. It needs a good cleaning. I replaced the tubes and I'm still having a random volume drop, so off to the teck it goes tomorrow unless I decide to buy some contact cleaner and go for it on my own. BUT it is the best sounding amp I've ever owned by far, so it will not be leaving me ever.
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Back in the mid eighties, in the glorious days when our local music shop had an enclosed room with most every JCM800 amp in stock (with several 2204 full stacks!!), one of the best tones we got in the room was an Artist with a Boss half rack graphic EQ in its effects loop. That EQ really woke it up, and except for volume, kept well up with all the other amps. I've always wanted one since then.

I bought a new 2204 head back then (one of the last JCM800's before the 900's were released) for $650 out the door. Those were the days.
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