pros and cons on the following small amps

heubulldog · 06-18-2011, 05:13 PM

Hi folks, been looking around for home small (living rm / bdrm) practice amps for a while which lead me to these models as far as on Marshall amps are concerned. Any experience / comments on these ?

Marshall MG10 (MG4 series)
Marshall ValvestateI 1080

Marshall Valvestate II 15
Marshall Valvestate II 15R

Marshall MG15DFX (FX)

kfowler8 · 06-18-2011, 05:35 PM

I don't have any experience with any of those but a great house amp is the Line 6 Spider IV. That's probably scraligeous around here but it's a great amp for what it is. I picked up mine on sale new for less than $250 with the foot controller.

coldsteal2 · 06-18-2011, 05:41 PM

Valvstate are great sounding amps

JohnH · 06-18-2011, 06:20 PM

I believe some of the small old valvestates didnt actually have a valve in them.

kebek · 06-18-2011, 08:28 PM

none of those... yet... Marshall does not have a top amp for 1 watt amp... chec Blackstar 1 watt... sound great... hoping Marshall will bring a Haze 1 watt...

SteveGangi · 06-18-2011, 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by heubulldog

Hi folks, been looking around for home small (living rm / bdrm) practice amps for a while which lead me to these models as far as on Marshall amps are concerned. Any experience / comments on these ? ...
Marshall MG15DFX (FX)

I am pleased with the MG series for home practice. It is physically small (a plus) and has a decent "clean". The "gain" or "crunch" can come on pretty hard but if you use it sparingly you can get good enough results for home. The built in effects can be a convenience, but separate pedals will be more useful in the long run. You won't be playing Shea Stadium or Staples Arena with one. If you want a "beast" look elsewhere.

80's Rocker · 06-18-2011, 09:56 PM

Out of those definately a valvestate. MG's are not worth it, I have one from when it was my first amp.

SteveGangi · 06-18-2011, 10:30 PM

Maybe the OP should say what sort of music ... ?

brp · 06-18-2011, 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kebek

... hoping Marshall will bring a Haze 1 watt...

Yes, I hope so too.

heubulldog · 06-19-2011, 02:24 AM

Hi how about Marshall Valvestate 20 (model 8020) vs AVT20 2000 ?

I like to play all range from clean classic rock to metal and anything in between. I like Marshall amps because it seems to give good high gain high distortion than any other but still offer really nice decent clean tone as well.

Is 8020 too big for home practice amp ?

Velvestate I 8020

You Tube

or

AVT20 2000 ?

You Tube

Haze ??
http://www.marshallamps.jp/haze.html

BluesRocker · 06-19-2011, 04:27 AM

Pros- They are Marshalls

Cons- Not all tube construction

Lespaulnmarshall · 06-19-2011, 04:31 AM

Pros; They're al cheap and they all have a Marshall logo
Cons; They all suck

Riffraff · 06-20-2011, 03:28 AM

This is my small pratice amp. It was Marshally after I bypassed the tone controls but I put it back to stock last night so it's all Fender again.

heubulldog · 07-01-2011, 12:44 PM

Thanks.

How are the reverb effect on these models (Marshal amps I've listed, and yours )?? I am thinking that some models has very clear effects, but some do not. Some are hardly noticeable. May be just my ears, not sure.

MKB · 07-01-2011, 01:15 PM

I'm kinda fond of the Marshall Lead 12 combo or stack, sound mighty good and are cheap when you can find one.

Marshall: Lead 12 - Kill'emall 83's Pictures | Ultimate-Guitar.Com

Valvestates are good too. Been using my Haze 40 for a small practice amp, works nice as well.

MKB · 07-01-2011, 01:15 PM

I'm kinda fond of the Marshall Lead 12 combo or stack, sound mighty good and are cheap when you can find one.

Marshall: Lead 12 - Kill'emall 83's Pictures | Ultimate-Guitar.Com

Valvestates are good too. Been using my Haze 40 for a small practice amp, works nice as well.

DSL100 Dude · 07-01-2011, 01:27 PM

Listen, it's a practice amp for the house. You are just looking to have something to piddle around with so really new or used it isn't that big of a deal. I have an old G30 that is from the pre "MG" series stuff. It is solid state and does what needs to be done for its intended purpose. Even did pretty well in last years contest for little crappy amps.

YouTube - ‪Marshall G30RCD w/ Jackson Dinky‬&rlm;

big dooley · 07-01-2011, 01:31 PM

i say valvestate VS100...
100 watt may seem to be overkill, but the solid state poweramp doesn't color anything and thus it doesn't sound bad at real low volumes... for some better volume handling capability's you can plug the speaker into the headphone socket (just not all the way trough, as it is a stereo output)
when your skills improve and you're about to play in a band, it has more then enough power on tap, to hold its own in a bandmix
i fooled A LOT of people in my marshall shootouts, where my little combo competed against full tube designs
payed 200 euro's for it secondhand... they have a little culprint though, some of the big resistors inside needed resoldering in my case... also the internal speaker was swapped for a G12T75 i had laying around
you get a lot of amp for such a price

heubulldog · 07-02-2011, 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DSL100 Dude

Listen, it's a practice amp for the house. You are just looking to have something to piddle around with so really new or used it isn't that big of a deal. I have an old G30 that is from the pre "MG" series stuff. It is solid state and does what needs to be done for its intended purpose. Even did pretty well in last years contest for little crappy amps.
YouTube - ‪Marshall G30RCD w/ Jackson Dinky‬&rlm;

Nice ~!

Yeah, its not like playing for the audience.

I have tested MG 10, sounded "so so" to me (nothing like Tube tho, of course not!). It was not a "crappy amp" in my opinion. Crappy amp would be hardly useful old beat up kind in my mind.

MG10 still cost about $60ish ? I guess it is good for kid's first level amp? (GC guy told me so..) and I was just wondering what was Marshall thiking when they came up with this model.

heubulldog · 07-02-2011, 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveGangi

I am pleased with the MG series for home practice. It is physically small (a plus) and has a decent "clean". The "gain" or "crunch" can come on pretty hard but if you use it sparingly you can get good enough results for home. The built in effects can be a convenience, but separate pedals will be more useful in the long run. You won't be playing Shea Stadium or Staples Arena with one. If you want a "beast" look elsewhere.

How interesting! I thought it was not such a "crappy" amp either! But on high gain and on high volume in clean, I heard a lot of Wah Wah sound. (Not sure if you understand what I mean....). May its the Pick Up sound.

JayCM800 · 07-02-2011, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by heubulldog

Hi folks, been looking around for home small (living rm / bdrm) practice amps for a while which lead me to these models as far as on Marshall amps are concerned. Any experience / comments on these ?

Marshall MG10 (MG4 series)
Marshall ValvestateI 1080

Marshall Valvestate II 15
Marshall Valvestate II 15R

Marshall MG15DFX (FX)

Pros: Affordable, great for bedroom/home practice
Cons: Not "real tube" sound and feel. Not for jamming with a drummer.

Strateuphoria · 07-02-2011, 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kebek

none of those... yet... Marshall does not have a top amp for 1 watt amp... chec Blackstar 1 watt... sound great... hoping Marshall will bring a Haze 1 watt...

yup, that is a very impressive little monster, I must say.

AlvisX · 07-04-2011, 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MKB

I'm kinda fond of the Marshall Lead 12 combo or stack, sound mighty good and are cheap when you can find one.

Bingo , every Marshall proponent should own an 800 series solid state

dig this

http://cgi.ebay.com/MARSHALL-OLDER-A...item33693a460e

heubulldog · 07-10-2011, 08:43 AM

Marshall Valvestate AVT20 ???

1337storm · 07-11-2011, 12:14 AM

I would recommend listening to Blackstar HT-5 and HT-1.
Live and at rehearsal I play either Marshall JVM or ENGL Powerball,
but at home a have a Blackstar HT-5 through a Marshall 1936 and
I think they are better sounding than the small Marshalls at bedroom
levels.

fretfire6 · 07-11-2011, 09:01 AM

Don't overlook the Fender Super Champ XD. All tube, built in effects, dedicated clean channel and a very Marshall-sounding distortion on setting number 13.

heubulldog · 07-15-2011, 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1337storm

I would recommend listening to Blackstar HT-5 and HT-1.
Live and at rehearsal I play either Marshall JVM or ENGL Powerball,
but at home a have a Blackstar HT-5 through a Marshall 1936 and
I think they are better sounding than the small Marshalls at bedroom
levels.

Quote:

Originally Posted by fretfire6

Don't overlook the Fender Super Champ XD. All tube, built in effects, dedicated clean channel and a very Marshall-sounding distortion on setting number 13.

Alright.. will look at these ! Thanks.

What about Epi val Jr vs Vox AC4TV 10" ?

Marshall Mann · 07-15-2011, 11:50 PM

VS 100 is an amazing and under rated amp. I still own mine.

And as Dooly pointed out, it sounds great at low levels.

Dave666 · 07-16-2011, 04:12 AM

Orange Tiny Terror

bulldozer1984 · 07-16-2011, 04:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by heubulldog

Alright.. will look at these ! Thanks.

What about Epi val Jr vs Vox AC4TV 10" ?

Mate, last weekend i went to buy a small practice amp..

I walked in to buy either an MG15fx or a Peavey Vypyr 15..
I walked out with a VOX VT20+ ValveTronix..

Out of the amps i tried this had the warmest sound.. It utilizes a 12ax7 tube to warm the sound and it works pretty well.. Ill admit it has lots of shit tones, but it also has some pretty good ones, and the good tones beat the Vypyr and IMO..It can emulate a pretty good Marshall tone too. I have set it up to sound alot like my JVM, and its pretty close..

Try out a VOX VT series amp mate, they are definitely worth a look..

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kfowler8 Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 97	Re: pros and cons on the following small amps I don't have any experience with any of those but a great house amp is the Line 6 Spider IV. That's probably scraligeous around here but it's a great amp for what it is. I picked up mine on sale new for less than $250 with the foot controller.

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coldsteal2 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Chico, CA Posts: 1,908	Re: pros and cons on the following small amps Valvstate are great sounding amps IbanezMark likes this. __________________ Playing Marshall's since 1969 Vintage Modern 2266, JCM-800, JCM-900,1960A(G12H's), DSL-401,AVT-50combo , CLASS 5 Head,Orange Rockerverb 50, and cab My Youtubes......ColdSteal II on Soundclick.com

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Riffraff Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Dutchess County NY Posts: 1,201	Re: pros and cons on the following small amps This is my small pratice amp. It was Marshally after I bypassed the tone controls but I put it back to stock last night so it's all Fender again.

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heubulldog Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Yamantau mtn Posts: 37	Re: pros and cons on the following small amps Thanks. How are the reverb effect on these models (Marshal amps I've listed, and yours )?? I am thinking that some models has very clear effects, but some do not. Some are hardly noticeable. May be just my ears, not sure.

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MKB Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,078	Re: pros and cons on the following small amps I'm kinda fond of the Marshall Lead 12 combo or stack, sound mighty good and are cheap when you can find one. Marshall: Lead 12 - Kill'emall 83's Pictures \| Ultimate-Guitar.Com Valvestates are good too. Been using my Haze 40 for a small practice amp, works nice as well.

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MKB Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,078	Re: pros and cons on the following small amps I'm kinda fond of the Marshall Lead 12 combo or stack, sound mighty good and are cheap when you can find one. Marshall: Lead 12 - Kill'emall 83's Pictures \| Ultimate-Guitar.Com Valvestates are good too. Been using my Haze 40 for a small practice amp, works nice as well.

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heubulldog Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Yamantau mtn Posts: 37	Re: pros and cons on the following small amps Marshall Valvestate AVT20 ???

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1337storm Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 57	Re: pros and cons on the following small amps I would recommend listening to Blackstar HT-5 and HT-1. Live and at rehearsal I play either Marshall JVM or ENGL Powerball, but at home a have a Blackstar HT-5 through a Marshall 1936 and I think they are better sounding than the small Marshalls at bedroom levels.

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fretfire6 Senior Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: South Jersey Posts: 144	Re: pros and cons on the following small amps Don't overlook the Fender Super Champ XD. All tube, built in effects, dedicated clean channel and a very Marshall-sounding distortion on setting number 13. __________________ AMPS: Marshall 9100 (2) Marshall JMP-1 (2) ENGL Blackmore E-650 (2) SPLAWN Comp. REASON SM-50 ENGL 4x12 V-30 MESA 2x12 V-30 MARSHALL 4x12 1960A

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