coldsteal2

really they dont look purple unless they are in the
sunlight or direct white light, and even then more of a blue, but in regular light
look black, and black on stage under stage lighgting.
But if you are in a bright lit room it looks purplish

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I agree...I can't really tell that it's purple most the time. BUT - I will admit that the purple is kinda growing on me...something different. I'm like HT, I like to original black and gold, but maybe it's time to add a little color to my Marshall arsenal.

I hope you get your soon HT. I'm really digging mine so far. Don't see it leaving my gear setup.

steelhorse

+1 about the color also.

Unless the lights are right on it, you can't really tell, but when you can see it, it's sweet looking!

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HOT TUBES 70

i still have had no time to check out the vintage monster....................!!!!!!!!!
soon i hope !

steelhorse

This is the one in black right?

It's probably gone.

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HOT TUBES 70

you love doing that , don't you !!!!!!!!!!!!!

stock_hippie

hope you get to play it this week!!!..i just played a AVT50h...man i was in heaven and on the moon at the same time...my first marshall head..you guys are SS000000 lucky!!!

steelhorse

heh, I'm a relentless prankster with my bros!

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soon i will play a vintage modern , .........................i hope !!!

steelhorse

hope is a good thing

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!!
HOTTUBES..i may play one b4 you BRAHHH!!!!thats a LOL for sure..

DragonSarc

dont want to hijack this thread but does the power tube gets microphonic too when it goes bad? or is it just the preamp tubes?

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HOT TUBES 70

yuk it up !!!!!!!!
we will see who plays one first !!!!!

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I played one before both y'all!

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HOT TUBES 70

well i played one last night , after i was done xmas shopping , i was in the
area and decided to go in and see if it was still there .

i did not have my guitar with me but i ended up playing several guiatars
thru it . so after all this time i have been wanting to hear this amp , i finally
got my chance , no one else in the amp room , with a les paul i set the amp
to the settings suggested by marshall , plug it in and hit my first chord and
what did i hear ..............the most disapointing marshall sound i think that
i have ever heard , i played with the nobs for a half hour and could not find
a good dirty sound in the amp , the clean was great though . so i had a
talk with a few of the guys that work there and asked if there was a problem
with this amp , and they told me that it sounds just like the last 3 heads
and cabs , they all said the same thing i said , sounds very thin !!!
i'm very disapointed with what i heard , the hype about this amp is so huge
but the tone so small !

now i'm expecting to be pelted with comments about my findings but if the
other guys that work there had not told me that the other 3 amps sounded
the same , i would have said that there was something wrong with the amp
but they said they all tryed to get a good sound out of it also .

sorry guys not the best sounding marshall i have heard . IMO !!!!!!!!

steelhorse

I for one am not going to pelt you.

It is what it is. The amp definitely needs collaboration between the player, his instrument and the amp. That's how it was designed and I'm disappointed more than anything that you didn't take one of your guitars as I suggested many times, but hey at least now we can put this thread to rest.

In closing this amp isn't for everyone, especially if you want plug and play and want it to work with any old guitar off the hook. How anyone can say an amp is thin is baffling as well. The tubes in them are ginormous and it really gives it a fat sound imo. I like it so well that I don't think I'm going to change from the stock power tubes and will try to replace them when the time comes with the same tubes.

My experience was just the opposite. It was too muscular and too beefy sounding at first. I then fiddled with the pre amp tubes and achieved a 'modded' Silver Jubilee type sound. Very nice on the cleans and punchy and hot on the high dynamics.

All you need to do is visit any youtube clip or scour the net for clips on the VM and even through pc speakers it's a great sounding amp and not thin or small at all.

Slash, YJM, Aldrich, etc. they all love this amp and some tour exclusively with it.

Bottom line is I love this amp. It's a fickle amp that needs coaxing and definitely not for the player who wants immediate gratification and/or to work with any instrument and type of playing. It responds to a heavy hand more than any of my other amps without getting muddy, yet remains articulate. It's like big cat, if you don't treat it just right it will eat you, your playing or both!

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Steel I'm with you here.
I dialled in awesome tones straight away..... it is the amp that dreams are made of.
I followed my usual SP.
Master volume cranked and then mess with preamp/EQ settings.
Initially detail 2pm , body 9am , mids cranked , treble bass 11am ish and a tiny bit of reverb. Master vol cranked the whole time.
Man i couldn't stop playing. It just blew me head off. Awesome 60's/70's sounds.
I am in love. I cant wait to further explore the sonic landscapes contained within this amp.

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MKB

You can get microphonic power tubes as well as preamp tubes. There have been reports of some VM combos having power tubes that develop microphonic problems. The heads don't seem to have this problem. This is mainly due to the environment in the combos, that's a hard place to put tubes.

steelhorse

+ they're HUGE tubes fit into a tight space.

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stock_hippie

HOT TUBES!!im stuNNed!!...i cant believe iTTT!!!
i never thought youd say it sucked..if thats what youre saying...
unrealll!!!plenty of Marshall folk dont like it!!!so Dont feel bad about it...thanks for beinGG honest!!

HOT TUBES 70

i'm still thinking that there is somthing wrong with those amps , i have played thru many
of marshalls greatest amps and been blown away at how awsome they sound !
the sound of a full cranked JTM or a JMP is a sound that you won't forget anytime soon.
then move a generation ahead to the 800 series , this was a amp that all other amp
companies tested against , these are some if the best electric guitar amps ever made .

now , that all said , it still makes me wonder if those amps were not set up right .
not many marshalls come off the shelf sounding great , this is my experience anyway.

i'm just tying to be fair to the vintage modern seies and the respectfull owners

steelhorse

Yep I bet you are correct. My amp was bias'd way too cold from the factory. So I got that corrected right off the bat, it became to beastly so instead of fiddling with the bias which I left right in the middle between cold/hot, I changed the pre amp tubes and voila! A hot rodded JTM 45/Jubilee was born!

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steelhorse

Also, I like hippie, appreciate you being honest, that's the only to be!

Also brand new amps rarely sound good until the tubes are broken in which is why I may wind up having to tweak mine again once it's burned and broken in. THe VM are truly brand new as are the JVM's.

DSL/TSL are rarely totally brand new as so many test players try them out in the shops + most of the 'new' JCM2000's I've seen are at least a year or so old.

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i wasn't about to slam marshall or you guys , its just what i heard that night
was not up to my standards in terms of tone , and you guys are right , many
guitar greats are touring with them , and i know that they would not use the amp that heard that night .

it would be a cold day in hell that marshall would put out a amp that sounded
like that for real.

i guess in short my hunt for the vintage modern tone continues.

steelhorse

It's all good.

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Tubes...sorry to hear you didn't like it. I love mine, but I also run my DSL when I'm going for more gain. I actually got me an A/B switch, going to get a new cab for it and run both of them for my setup. I love the clean tone of the VM and can get a killer tone for classic/southern rock type stuff. But, I do agree that I prefer my DSL for more gain.

stock_hippie

is the gain the crunchy sound...?..in the 1960 gibson made a fuzztone that i had..battery inside...ia it like that?...man id love a DSL 50...they must be WaCkeDDD!!

jcmjmp

I highly doubt that HotTubes didn't like the amp because the tubes weren't "broken in", as you say.

stock_hippie

HOT TUBES has an
a Marshall ear...i got a AC/DC designer Tshirt for Christmas...

HOT TUBES 70

i agree , not because the tubes were not broken in , but a bias issue more so
if you have ever played a amp that is not biased properly you will know
what i mean ,they sound way off , i once experimented with that on my
jcm 800 2210 , bias cold = ok tone but alot less gain , bias hot = a ton
of gain and poor tone , if you get the bias set right for that amp and the right
tubes involved , it can be a great experience as a guitar player , nothing better than a amp that is just telling you through the speakers " that i'm happy and here's what i can do"

On the flip side of that , is over the years my experience is that some marshalls can have majical nights and then some nights they sound less
than thrilling , could be changes in the humidity , power supply at the
venue , several other things etc.

but what i do know is when a marshall is set up right and its happy,
is a experience that only us guitar players know about , it puts us in
our own state of happy.

i still think that there is more to the vintage modern amp !!!




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