What The Hell Is Diode Clipping????

travismbrown · 10-13-2008, 04:53 PM

I have a 900 and ive heard people complain about diode clipping, but to be honest i dont know what the hell it really is. . .

***Adwex*** · 10-13-2008, 05:06 PM

A diode is an electronic component, it is a one-way resistor...current can flow through it only one way. They are used to electronically "chop off" part of the signal waveform so that it sounds distorted. Usually, distortioh or overdrive is caused by increasing the gain so that the tubes saturate and create a pleasant form of distortion. Diode clipping is kinda like cheating to simulate higher gain, but it really isn't.

sojatriani · 10-13-2008, 05:17 PM

Diode clipping is how overdrive pedals get their distortion. The 900s have a built in OD pedal, at least that's what I tell myself. The JCM900 to me is the best sounding of the JCM line of amps. The diode clipping was made to give the 900 more than the 800. That is why there are only three pre-amp tubes on the 100 watter, Did it work, I say yes, but that is subjective.

HOT TUBES 70 · 10-13-2008, 05:33 PM

love my marshalls but , i never liked any 900 i played . as you said this is subjective.

steelhorse · 10-13-2008, 05:39 PM

They hear that term and it's like bad juju or something which is silly.

The JCM900 in the hands of the right player is an awesome instrument. It helps to have the correct tubes in them and an EQ but it has lots of sweet gain imo.

KISS used them for a number of years: Marshall JCM900 SL-X Master Volume Amp

and they were the non reverb model (and yes I realize the SLX does NOT have the diode clipping!)

However THE JCM 900 SERIES is another under rated amp! Mod the diode clipping stage and I believe you have a completely different beast.

I personally have heard a few 900's and they all sounded fine to me, but the SLX-2100 I have is superior by far imo.

steelhorse · 10-13-2008, 05:40 PM

And didn't one of the arguably all time great Marshall's have the same diode clipping?

The Silver Jubilee series.....

HOT TUBES 70 · 10-13-2008, 06:58 PM

the 900 series amps did not have great life span, this was due to there buzzy tone etc.
but you do have a good point that in the right hands and the right player they to can sound great . and another tip of the hat to marshall on building the greatest sounding
amps on the planet.

steelhorse · 10-13-2008, 07:01 PM

I have a 900 that's almost 14 yrs. old and I'd not heard of the amp until I met the owner a year ago and we talked about trading his halfstack for a Peavey Ultra 60 combo w/1 x 12 cab & when I played through it I was hooked and that was the old 'who knows how old they are' tubes in there!

Since the tube change and bias it's an even better amp!

HOT TUBES 70 · 10-13-2008, 07:08 PM

thats great to hear , this is the way i see it .. as long as its a marshall

GOD BLESS JIM

steelhorse · 10-13-2008, 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HOT TUBES 70

thats great to hear , this is the way i see it .. as long as its a marshall

GOD BLESS JIM

+1

coldsteal2 · 10-13-2008, 08:46 PM

you can play through the regular gain channel and bypass
the diode cliping on the 900.

sojatriani · 10-13-2008, 08:57 PM

But why...the OD sounds sooo good, The only Marshall I favor more than the 900 is the 6100. Diode clipping is not a bad thing, in fact it is a good thing, I almost traded my 900 but steelhorse reminded me that I would miss it. I bought it brand new in 1993 and it is one of the only pieces of gear I still have. I sometimes want to trade it, but, I could never find that sound again. I have owned several 800 series heads, all are gone, none sounded as good as the 900.

coldsteal2 · 10-13-2008, 09:00 PM

oh i like it fine, i just said that for people that dont
like it, some people dont like the 900 because of
the diode cliping, for them they can use the regular
gain channel

i use mine the way it is

steelhorse · 10-13-2008, 09:05 PM

ok now I'm thinking if I can trade or sell my JSX that I will bring my 900 home from the shop.

The only reason I haven't yet is because I have too many amps and gear here!

I have my DSL100 and JSX posted in the classified thread for sale or trade for a VM.

I love the JCM900 too!

sojatriani · 10-13-2008, 09:08 PM

Those sound clips are killer, nice sound on your VM. Very vintage...but yet...modern....LOL!!!

sojatriani · 10-13-2008, 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by steelhorse

ok now I'm thinking if I can trade or sell my JSX that I will bring my 900 home from the shop.

The only reason I haven't yet is because I have too many amps and gear here!

I have my DSL100 and JSX posted in the classified thread for sale or trade for a VM.

I love the JCM900 too!

Sometimes the best advice.....is your own

coldsteal2 · 10-13-2008, 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sojatriani

Those sound clips are killer, nice sound on your VM. Very vintage...but yet...modern....LOL!!!

thats whats cool about the Vintage Modern, it sounds
vintage but also sounds very modern, the dynamic
gain and mid boost gives the modern edge
they are awesome amps

HOT TUBES 70 · 10-13-2008, 10:08 PM

the last time i checked the the front end of the lm 6100 had no diodes
but i could be wrong , and to further that if someone knows different
please let me know , thanks

travismbrown · 10-13-2008, 11:43 PM

So what is the difference in the silver jubilee series amps, if they used diode clipping as well what seperates that from my 900 4100 dual verb? besides slash I mean. . .

Also what is the tonal diference between the two can anyone offer up some sound clips??

steelhorse · 10-14-2008, 12:19 AM

The design of the amp with it's different circuitry, transformers, caps, etc have a lot to do with the difference in responsiveness and tone and the difference between the 2 is noticeable. Not even close imo.

The Vintage Modern is the closest amp made now that even resembles a Jubilee.

The Jubilee is a very open and dynamic amp with great tone. More organic and 'raw' sounding not as refined or tight as the JCM series which is what makes it so great.

That looseness is what makes the vintage mojo happen imo. You can hear the strings through the amp, the volume and tone controls take on a life of their own as do the woods of the guitars body, neck and fretboard.

It's one of the best amps Marshall has ever done imo.

Coupled with the V30 equipped cab and I'm in heaven.

You can check out youtube for clips, but a soundclip doesn't do it justice.

5er driver · 10-14-2008, 02:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by steelhorse

They hear that term and it's like bad juju or something which is silly.

The JCM900 in the hands of the right player is an awesome instrument. It helps to have the correct tubes in them and an EQ but it has lots of sweet gain imo.

KISS used them for a number of years: Marshall JCM900 SL-X Master Volume Amp

and they were the non reverb model

this is another under rated amp

The SL-X has no clipping diodes. It may be the only JCM 900 model amp that doesn't have them. It uses 4 pre amp tubes for extra super gain. I have a SL-X 100 watter and love it. Check the avatar.

steelhorse · 10-14-2008, 03:08 AM

I wasn't specifically referring to just the SLX series although I should have been more specific.

I meant the JCM900 series in general (detractors don't care whether it's an SLX or not right) gets a bad rap partially due to the clipping diode feature on most of them.

Cool avatar btw!

5er driver · 10-14-2008, 03:19 AM

steelhorse - I know you weren't singling out the SL-X, that was actually a nice highlight. I didn't know Kiss used them, I thought they weren't very reliable when used hard. A bridge rectifier or something like that tends to over heat & burn out? So far no probs with mine with moderate use. And you're right, the JCM 900 detractors nock them all.

steelhorse · 10-14-2008, 03:39 AM

Yes I've read the same thing about the bridge rectifier but mine was gigged for a few years before I got it and used in the studio as well.

I'm like you, I consider my playing time on it moderate at most although I plan on retrieving it from the shop in the next day or so. I've had it on consignment, but I've decided to pull her back and put the JSX out instead.

HOT TUBES 70 · 10-14-2008, 09:33 AM

the 900 series does get a bad rap but , a good tech can do some some
simple mods to make a 900 sound great, as for the slx i have herd nothing
but good things about them , and yet again marshall only made them for
a few years.

travismbrown · 10-14-2008, 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HOT TUBES 70

the 900 series does get a bad rap but , a good tech can do some some
simple mods to make a 900 sound great, as for the slx i have herd nothing
but good things about them , and yet again marshall only made them for
a few years.

What kind of mods are out there? How expensive are they and what do they do?

Im pretty sure I need a tube replacment but its hard to find a qualified tech in Waco, TX

sojatriani · 10-14-2008, 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by travismbrown

What kind of mods are out there? How expensive are they and what do they do?

Im pretty sure I need a tube replacment but its hard to find a qualified tech in Waco, TX

Hey, I am in Fort Worth, We have a gazillion techs here. Cruise up 35, I can give you about fifty names of great techs, there is a shop in Arlington who does great work, they did work for Dimebag, Eric johnson, etc...

***Adwex*** · 10-14-2008, 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by travismbrown

So what is the difference in the silver jubilee series amps, if they used diode clipping as well what seperates that from my 900 4100 dual verb? besides slash I mean. . .

Also what is the tonal diference between the two can anyone offer up some sound clips??

I had a 900 that I sold recently (4500 50 watter). Ever since I got the Jubilee, I had no use whatsoever for the 900, they are miles apart from each other, IMHO. The preamp in the Jubilee is a unique design among Marshalls, and many people agree that it is argueably the best sounding amp Marshall ever made. Unlike the 900, which absolutely requires an EQ pedal in the effects loop to get any kind of low end, the Jubilee's EQ is quite capable of creating more than enough bass (the bassist in my band was complaining that I had too much bottom). Despite the fact that the Jub and the 900 both have diode clipping, the Jubilee sounds so much smoother, and more articulate. It is truly one of the best lead guitar amplifiers ever made....by anyone.

Check the recordings on our MySpace link below if you want to hear a Jubilee (panned hard right). No fancy multitrack recording rig, just a live rehearsal, with miced cabs.

Adam

steelhorse · 10-14-2008, 01:41 PM

I've had the same Jubilee you have and the JCM 900 SLX-2100 blew the Jubilee out of the water with the bass after the complete re-tube with the high gain JJ kit which included the hand picked pre amp tubes, 1 balanced for the phase inverter and the matched quad of E34L's. It has enough bass that I no longer use the EQ w/it.

Bear in mind that the model I have doesn't have the diode clipping as it uses an additional pre amp tube for more gain, but yeah this amp has lots more balls than the Jubilee and the Jubilee wasn't bad either.

Tone wise it's the apples and oranges thing. The Jubilee is old school and tuned more for the vintage vibe. Great tone no doubt about it, but the SLX 2100 is a monster. Roll the gain back and it's right there for blues, crank it up and you have metal.

It's as hand made and built as were the Jubilees.

imo the SLX-2100 is unheralded, but a few noteworthy bands used them, the most notable was KISS.

RachelMorgan · 10-14-2008, 03:02 PM

What I find quite funny is how people will absolutely say how tube overdrive is the best and all sorts of stuff like that, then have no qualms about sticking a bunch of solid state overdrive and distortion pedals in front of their amp. So you've got an all tube cascading gain circuit and you stick a tubescreamer in fron of it to tighten it up or push it that little bit more. So yeah, why not put one directly inside the amp?

10-13-2008, 04:53 PM	#1 (permalink)
travismbrown Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 44	What The Hell Is Diode Clipping???? I have a 900 and ive heard people complain about diode clipping, but to be honest i dont know what the hell it really is. . .

10-13-2008, 05:06 PM	#2 (permalink)
*Adwex* Super Moderator Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 1,631	Re: What The Hell Is Diode Clipping???? A diode is an electronic component, it is a one-way resistor...current can flow through it only one way. They are used to electronically "chop off" part of the signal waveform so that it sounds distorted. Usually, distortioh or overdrive is caused by increasing the gain so that the tubes saturate and create a pleasant form of distortion. Diode clipping is kinda like cheating to simulate higher gain, but it really isn't. __________________ http://www.youtube.com/MarshallLesPaul

10-13-2008, 05:17 PM	#3 (permalink)
sojatriani Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 279	Re: What The Hell Is Diode Clipping???? Diode clipping is how overdrive pedals get their distortion. The 900s have a built in OD pedal, at least that's what I tell myself. The JCM900 to me is the best sounding of the JCM line of amps. The diode clipping was made to give the 900 more than the 800. That is why there are only three pre-amp tubes on the 100 watter, Did it work, I say yes, but that is subjective. __________________ Marshall 92 JCM 900 4101/running thru 1936 212 cab Marshall 2008 Vintage Modern half stack 1975 VOX AC30 with extension cab Peavey Classic 50 212 combo Peavey Triple XXX 212 combo '85 Les paul '74 strat 2002 American Deluxe Strat/Fat 50's 2004 Richie Sambora Strat 1997 USA Roadhouse Strat 1992 Ibanez RG 550 1996 ESP Eclipse

10-13-2008, 05:33 PM	#4 (permalink)
HOT TUBES 70 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: SASKATOON Posts: 1,675	Re: What The Hell Is Diode Clipping???? love my marshalls but , i never liked any 900 i played . as you said this is subjective.

10-13-2008, 05:39 PM	#5 (permalink)
steelhorse Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 3,888	Re: What The Hell Is Diode Clipping???? They hear that term and it's like bad juju or something which is silly. The JCM900 in the hands of the right player is an awesome instrument. It helps to have the correct tubes in them and an EQ but it has lots of sweet gain imo. KISS used them for a number of years: Marshall JCM900 SL-X Master Volume Amp and they were the non reverb model (and yes I realize the SLX does NOT have the diode clipping!) However THE JCM 900 SERIES is another under rated amp! Mod the diode clipping stage and I believe you have a completely different beast. I personally have heard a few 900's and they all sounded fine to me, but the SLX-2100 I have is superior by far imo. __________________ www.ricojronline.com 760-956-6619 Garmopat Pedal Mods "I wouldn't mind hearing your head smash through a glass door. That would be cool..." luekmeyer Last edited by steelhorse; 10-14-2008 at 06:18 PM.

10-13-2008, 05:40 PM	#6 (permalink)
steelhorse Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 3,888	Re: What The Hell Is Diode Clipping???? And didn't one of the arguably all time great Marshall's have the same diode clipping? The Silver Jubilee series..... __________________ www.ricojronline.com 760-956-6619 Garmopat Pedal Mods "I wouldn't mind hearing your head smash through a glass door. That would be cool..." luekmeyer

10-13-2008, 06:58 PM	#7 (permalink)
HOT TUBES 70 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: SASKATOON Posts: 1,675	Re: What The Hell Is Diode Clipping???? the 900 series amps did not have great life span, this was due to there buzzy tone etc. but you do have a good point that in the right hands and the right player they to can sound great . and another tip of the hat to marshall on building the greatest sounding amps on the planet.

10-13-2008, 07:01 PM	#8 (permalink)
steelhorse Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 3,888	Re: What The Hell Is Diode Clipping???? I have a 900 that's almost 14 yrs. old and I'd not heard of the amp until I met the owner a year ago and we talked about trading his halfstack for a Peavey Ultra 60 combo w/1 x 12 cab & when I played through it I was hooked and that was the old 'who knows how old they are' tubes in there! Since the tube change and bias it's an even better amp! __________________ www.ricojronline.com 760-956-6619 Garmopat Pedal Mods "I wouldn't mind hearing your head smash through a glass door. That would be cool..." luekmeyer

10-13-2008, 07:08 PM	#9 (permalink)
HOT TUBES 70 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: SASKATOON Posts: 1,675	Re: What The Hell Is Diode Clipping???? thats great to hear , this is the way i see it .. as long as its a marshall GOD BLESS JIM

10-13-2008, 08:46 PM	#11 (permalink)
coldsteal2 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Chico, CA Posts: 1,555	Re: What The Hell Is Diode Clipping???? you can play through the regular gain channel and bypass the diode cliping on the 900. __________________ http://www.youtube.com/user/kroftkarl http://www.soundclick.com/bands/defa...&content=music

10-13-2008, 08:57 PM	#12 (permalink)
sojatriani Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 279	Re: What The Hell Is Diode Clipping???? But why...the OD sounds sooo good, The only Marshall I favor more than the 900 is the 6100. Diode clipping is not a bad thing, in fact it is a good thing, I almost traded my 900 but steelhorse reminded me that I would miss it. I bought it brand new in 1993 and it is one of the only pieces of gear I still have. I sometimes want to trade it, but, I could never find that sound again. I have owned several 800 series heads, all are gone, none sounded as good as the 900. __________________ Marshall 92 JCM 900 4101/running thru 1936 212 cab Marshall 2008 Vintage Modern half stack 1975 VOX AC30 with extension cab Peavey Classic 50 212 combo Peavey Triple XXX 212 combo '85 Les paul '74 strat 2002 American Deluxe Strat/Fat 50's 2004 Richie Sambora Strat 1997 USA Roadhouse Strat 1992 Ibanez RG 550 1996 ESP Eclipse

10-13-2008, 09:00 PM	#13 (permalink)
coldsteal2 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Chico, CA Posts: 1,555	Re: What The Hell Is Diode Clipping???? oh i like it fine, i just said that for people that dont like it, some people dont like the 900 because of the diode cliping, for them they can use the regular gain channel i use mine the way it is __________________ http://www.youtube.com/user/kroftkarl http://www.soundclick.com/bands/defa...&content=music

10-13-2008, 09:05 PM	#14 (permalink)
steelhorse Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 3,888	Re: What The Hell Is Diode Clipping???? ok now I'm thinking if I can trade or sell my JSX that I will bring my 900 home from the shop. The only reason I haven't yet is because I have too many amps and gear here! I have my DSL100 and JSX posted in the classified thread for sale or trade for a VM. I love the JCM900 too! __________________ www.ricojronline.com 760-956-6619 Garmopat Pedal Mods "I wouldn't mind hearing your head smash through a glass door. That would be cool..." luekmeyer

10-13-2008, 09:08 PM	#15 (permalink)
sojatriani Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 279	Re: What The Hell Is Diode Clipping???? Those sound clips are killer, nice sound on your VM. Very vintage...but yet...modern....LOL!!! __________________ Marshall 92 JCM 900 4101/running thru 1936 212 cab Marshall 2008 Vintage Modern half stack 1975 VOX AC30 with extension cab Peavey Classic 50 212 combo Peavey Triple XXX 212 combo '85 Les paul '74 strat 2002 American Deluxe Strat/Fat 50's 2004 Richie Sambora Strat 1997 USA Roadhouse Strat 1992 Ibanez RG 550 1996 ESP Eclipse

10-13-2008, 10:08 PM	#18 (permalink)
HOT TUBES 70 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: SASKATOON Posts: 1,675	Re: What The Hell Is Diode Clipping???? the last time i checked the the front end of the lm 6100 had no diodes but i could be wrong , and to further that if someone knows different please let me know , thanks

10-13-2008, 11:43 PM	#19 (permalink)
travismbrown Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 44	Re: What The Hell Is Diode Clipping???? So what is the difference in the silver jubilee series amps, if they used diode clipping as well what seperates that from my 900 4100 dual verb? besides slash I mean. . . Also what is the tonal diference between the two can anyone offer up some sound clips??

10-14-2008, 12:19 AM	#20 (permalink)
steelhorse Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 3,888	Re: What The Hell Is Diode Clipping???? The design of the amp with it's different circuitry, transformers, caps, etc have a lot to do with the difference in responsiveness and tone and the difference between the 2 is noticeable. Not even close imo. The Vintage Modern is the closest amp made now that even resembles a Jubilee. The Jubilee is a very open and dynamic amp with great tone. More organic and 'raw' sounding not as refined or tight as the JCM series which is what makes it so great. That looseness is what makes the vintage mojo happen imo. You can hear the strings through the amp, the volume and tone controls take on a life of their own as do the woods of the guitars body, neck and fretboard. It's one of the best amps Marshall has ever done imo. Coupled with the V30 equipped cab and I'm in heaven. You can check out youtube for clips, but a soundclip doesn't do it justice. __________________ www.ricojronline.com 760-956-6619 Garmopat Pedal Mods "I wouldn't mind hearing your head smash through a glass door. That would be cool..." luekmeyer

10-14-2008, 03:08 AM	#22 (permalink)
steelhorse Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 3,888	Re: What The Hell Is Diode Clipping???? I wasn't specifically referring to just the SLX series although I should have been more specific. I meant the JCM900 series in general (detractors don't care whether it's an SLX or not right) gets a bad rap partially due to the clipping diode feature on most of them. Cool avatar btw! __________________ www.ricojronline.com 760-956-6619 Garmopat Pedal Mods "I wouldn't mind hearing your head smash through a glass door. That would be cool..." luekmeyer

10-14-2008, 03:19 AM	#23 (permalink)
5er driver Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Stuttgart, Germany Posts: 182	Re: What The Hell Is Diode Clipping???? steelhorse - I know you weren't singling out the SL-X, that was actually a nice highlight. I didn't know Kiss used them, I thought they weren't very reliable when used hard. A bridge rectifier or something like that tends to over heat & burn out? So far no probs with mine with moderate use. And you're right, the JCM 900 detractors nock them all. __________________ The 5er Driver Now Annoying In ((((((Stereo)))))) Plug that beotch in an' let her rip!

10-14-2008, 03:39 AM	#24 (permalink)
steelhorse Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 3,888	Re: What The Hell Is Diode Clipping???? Yes I've read the same thing about the bridge rectifier but mine was gigged for a few years before I got it and used in the studio as well. I'm like you, I consider my playing time on it moderate at most although I plan on retrieving it from the shop in the next day or so. I've had it on consignment, but I've decided to pull her back and put the JSX out instead. __________________ www.ricojronline.com 760-956-6619 Garmopat Pedal Mods "I wouldn't mind hearing your head smash through a glass door. That would be cool..." luekmeyer

10-14-2008, 09:33 AM	#25 (permalink)
HOT TUBES 70 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: SASKATOON Posts: 1,675	Re: What The Hell Is Diode Clipping???? the 900 series does get a bad rap but , a good tech can do some some simple mods to make a 900 sound great, as for the slx i have herd nothing but good things about them , and yet again marshall only made them for a few years.

10-14-2008, 01:41 PM	#29 (permalink)
steelhorse Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 3,888	Re: What The Hell Is Diode Clipping???? I've had the same Jubilee you have and the JCM 900 SLX-2100 blew the Jubilee out of the water with the bass after the complete re-tube with the high gain JJ kit which included the hand picked pre amp tubes, 1 balanced for the phase inverter and the matched quad of E34L's. It has enough bass that I no longer use the EQ w/it. Bear in mind that the model I have doesn't have the diode clipping as it uses an additional pre amp tube for more gain, but yeah this amp has lots more balls than the Jubilee and the Jubilee wasn't bad either. Tone wise it's the apples and oranges thing. The Jubilee is old school and tuned more for the vintage vibe. Great tone no doubt about it, but the SLX 2100 is a monster. Roll the gain back and it's right there for blues, crank it up and you have metal. It's as hand made and built as were the Jubilees. imo the SLX-2100 is unheralded, but a few noteworthy bands used them, the most notable was KISS. __________________ www.ricojronline.com 760-956-6619 Garmopat Pedal Mods "I wouldn't mind hearing your head smash through a glass door. That would be cool..." luekmeyer Last edited by steelhorse; 10-14-2008 at 06:20 PM.

10-14-2008, 03:02 PM	#30 (permalink)
RachelMorgan Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Seattle Posts: 207	Re: What The Hell Is Diode Clipping???? What I find quite funny is how people will absolutely say how tube overdrive is the best and all sorts of stuff like that, then have no qualms about sticking a bunch of solid state overdrive and distortion pedals in front of their amp. So you've got an all tube cascading gain circuit and you stick a tubescreamer in fron of it to tighten it up or push it that little bit more. So yeah, why not put one directly inside the amp? __________________ Guitars: ESP LTD Alexi-600 V; Gibson SG Standard; Schecter C-1 Hellraiser (JB/'59 w/ JB coil tap) Amps: Randall Lynch Box; Peavey 6505+; Fender HR Deville. Board: Typically a tuner and TS808 Speakers: Two Avatar Contemporary 212s

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