swany

Hi All


Can someone briefly tell me the best way to connect your POD XT Live for the best sound possible?


I Have a Mrshall DSL 100 and Cab and currently connect my Guitar to the Pod and then the POD to the AMP. Is this coorect. I was told i should use the Effects loop inputs in the back of the AMP.


I just want to get the best distortion (and effects) sound possible but still currently not happy with the sound. Can some help and let me know which leads go where??


Thanks

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Murmel

4 cable method is the key, google will find the details.

Australian

have you set it up, so that it compliments your amp? In the manual you have directions to set it up specifically for your combo amp, or if you have a stack you set it up for that etc.
Using amp setting instead of Line setting. These things make a difference.

BTW: its the X3Live that does 4cable method. XTlive doesnt do it.

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Murmel

Oh , that´s bad. In that case I would sell it and get an X3Live or a GT10.

Constantine

With the POD xt there only two way to do this.

1) Plug straight into the amp and use it as a pedalboard. The same as having a wah-dist-flanger-comp-noisegate->amp fox example

2)Plug the POD in your Amps FX Return. This way you you cancel the amps Pre-amp and use only the Power amp. So you'll have a digital modeler for Preamp and a Pair/Quad of EL34s as your Power amp. If you do this, go easy on every Gain/Volume knob, both on your POD and your Amp. Start with every Gain/Vol at 0 on both POD/AMP.

You should do a little bit more research on the FX loop thing. I don't know if there's a Master bypass button on the POD but if there is DO NOT push if you're plugged into your FX Loop. You don't wanna fry anything

Get as much info as you can. I know people who do this with no problem at all. However...you wanna do this right

LuredMaul

I use mine in the effects loop for effects only.

you have to build a bank of patches for this.

Salsg

I run mine (when I use an amp) thru the return of the fx loop. Sounds much better than the front of the amp.
No issues at all running it that way.
Only issues to worry about is the output level of the Pod, the gain/level in the amp models are not issues, don't worry about starting them high. One or two of my patches they are all the way up, it's the actual output of the POD to watch, but that I have up pretty high too. Turn down this level if you get distortion. I don't even on max.
Have your master on the amp set low and turn up from there.

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swany

Thanks guys for the responses. I guess im still a little confused

So is it safe to say if i use my FX loop ill use the Amps on the POD XT Live and effects. And if i want to use my MArshall Amp ill plug it in at the front.

To get the best rock sound (distortion), will i get a better sound using the MArshall DSL 100 head (plugged in the front) or should i plug it in the fx loop and use the amps on the Pod??

Thanks

Salsg

You will get a lot of variety of overdrives and distortions by using the POD for a preamp, while using the DSLs red channel you get that one, but you can tweak it with the PODs pedals and eq.
For me, I just use the POD for the different amps, and just use my MArshall as a power amp. That way I use the plexi models, the 800 models, and there is a JCM2000 model in there too. I also like using the Vox and Fenders too for the cover band I am in.

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swany

thanks

Im not even sure if i can set up a PDO XT LIVE through the effects loop. I tried but im not getting a clear sound.

Salsg

I'm not sure maybe something peculiar about the DSL.

How are you connecting it?

Guitar>pod>into return fx loop of amp>speaker cab

I don't know if the master volume will control the power amp on the DSL (it does on my 6100)
Keep the volume on the amp low, like 1 or so, the level ouput on the POD to 0, then slowly bring up the level until you get a sound.

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swany

thanks salsq

Up until now i hav just connected Guitar to Pod to Amp (at the front)

I have now tried Guitar to Pod (using the two outs on the pod to the send and return fx loop at the back of the amp) but not sure if this is correct

Salsg

Only send the mono output into the fx return, don't have the other output going into the send.
If you are using the guitar in the front of the amp, and want to use the POD thru the fx loop, then the fx send would go into the input of the POD, and the mono output of the POD would go into the fx return.

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swany

Thanks Salsq. With your last post which one do you prefer for a better sound?

Salsg

I use the POD into the power amp return and I use the amp modeling. It sounds a lot better than running into the preamp, even with changing the settings on the POD.
I just got a PA so I've been running the POD into that. Overall it sounds better for the non-Marshall tones, but I think running it into an EL34 power section of my 6100 made the Marshall models sound more authentic, but it hurt the Fender tones.

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eljeffebrown

As brief as I can be,



DON'T!

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carnada

maaan why do you buy a DSL if you are gonna use the POD as a preamp and multieffects unit?

Why not just get a poweramp like the mesa boogie 50/50 stereo tube power amp, and then just plug the POD to that? you would have saved like 700 dollars and the pod would have sounded much better.

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eljeffebrown

Carnada, he has Two problems a "Mrs-hall" DSL AND a Line 6!

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If he can get that XTlive to sound great with a Marshall then hes a better man than I. The amp and cab simulation is a great idea, but I'm yet to be convinced. It may be countless futile hours spent trying to get it working right, when pedals do the job right out of the box.

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swany

thanks all. ill see how i go. My gig is in 3 weeks!

Furies

In a bit for more Marshall-sounding authenticity, I'm going primitive and actively replacing my PodXT's functions with pedals that go straight into the amp input.

So far I've reduced my PodXT's role to merely a guitar tuner and multi-effects - all amp and cab modeling is turned off. In time, I will replace those remaining functions, too.

Last year, I ran the amp head clean and flat and then used the Pod to do everything. It was great for an eclectic set of cover tunes, but the compensatory graphic EQ curve I had to use in the effects loop was insane - I had to boost lows by 12db and cut highs by 6db to warm it back up. That introduced a lot of phase shift along the way and imparted a "faux" tone on everything. Now the EQ is cutting and boosting 3db here and there, and the tone is much more honest.

leikdoi

I own a POD XT Pro and run it into a Sonic Maximizer and a Boogie Stereo 50/50 power amp and I run that, stereo, into a Marshall 1960B cabinet. I don't like it a much as I do my heads, but I do enjoy the flexibility of having an assload of amps and effects easily at my disposal.

I've found, and El Jeffe may vouch for me, that the more you fine tune a JPOD the more realistic it can sound. Especially if you run your POD into a computer and use Line 6 Edit. Running the POD into a tube guitar power amp is the key with this guy. The front end of a head has too much of it's own EQ in it. A solid state PA amp is okay, but still a bit sterile. The tube power section adds some of the personality back to your tone that the POD lacks.

Just one man's opinion.

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eljeffebrown

Ya know Rick, I was gonna say something to you the other night when we played with you guys about your setup, I just never had the oppertuity. I was listening to Los just strum around on his gitfiddle there and I wasn't as impressed by his tone as I was by the Orange on the other side. I don't know what it was. let me see if I can put this into words. Your rack while sounding good, sounds sterile and "flat" compared to that orange on the other side. The tone is there but it doesn't "jump" off the stage like the Orange does, ya know what I mean? and I think that is in part TO the line 6 in front of your 50/50. I've seen you guys before. When George was in the band using his Vox and Los had his 900 what was coming off the stage sounded organic. Carlos's sound BY IT'S SELF the other night sounded "one dimensional". The band sounded phenomenal as a whole and alway's do, but the tone of the Pod Pro XT/mesa 50/50 Combo to me anyway, sounded one dimensional, NOT BAD, just a little flat.

With that said, you still have your peddle board, sell that rack, buy yourself a pristine cond JCM800 and then walk away with a big smile on your face!

By the way everyone check out Ricky's band Deriva on myspace. They kick ass!

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