A Touch of Class...Class5 Owners Welcome!

DSL100 Dude · 08-16-2010, 11:55 AM

That's right. There are quite a few of us on here and the numbers are growing. After reading the recomendation I figured what the heck, why not start up a thread for all of our stuff.

Gtarzan81 · 08-16-2010, 12:03 PM

If you didn't, I was going to. This should be a great place for tube reco's, speaker ideas, and whatnot.
Lassez le bon temps roullez!

nedcronin · 08-16-2010, 12:48 PM

Cool can't wait to get one myself.....

esquire · 08-16-2010, 02:02 PM

I own 2 of them . And I absolutely love them. Great amp ,great price. Would like to see Marshall make a 10 or 12 watt version in custom colors with a 12 speaker.And I have used them to gig out with.nothing bad to say.I heard that some of them rattle but not mine.I also own a 95 JTM 30 with 2 10's and a 1by12 cab . Another VERY underratted amp.

I am running a Les Paul florentine cutaway and Fender telecaster thru a Digitach RP 500 into a Boss DD 20 gigadelay.Sounds great just plugged straight into amp with my guitar also.

rjohns1 · 08-16-2010, 02:05 PM

I tried one of these out recently, and it had a strange, overbearing midrange bark. Is this characteristic of these, or was it just me? I tried several different guitars, and still, mostly midrange honk out of it. I wanted to like it, but just couldn't.

benjammin420 · 08-16-2010, 02:31 PM

I love my Class 5, this little attenuator is a great match for it, I can't recommend it enough Reyes Audio Output Tamer

Gtarzan81 · 08-16-2010, 03:41 PM

Current tubes

Orig:
v1:Marshall labeled yellow 12ax7
v2: Marshall labeled red 12ax7
output: Sovtek el84

Now:
v1:CP Tung sol low noise ax7
v2: CP tung sol high gain ax7
output: soviet el84 from marty

I may switch out to a mullard ri ax7 in v2, as i hear good things about them.

What are ya'll running?

AKADave · 08-16-2010, 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rjohns1

I tried one of these out recently, and it had a strange, overbearing midrange bark. Is this characteristic of these, or was it just me? I tried several different guitars, and still, mostly midrange honk out of it. I wanted to like it, but just couldn't.

Speaker probably needed some play time. Marshalls are all about the mids though.

tonefreak · 08-16-2010, 03:50 PM

I love mids.

RHP · 08-16-2010, 03:51 PM

I just got the Class 5 last week, I like it so far. It's a cranking little amp.

rjohns1 · 08-16-2010, 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AKADave

Speaker probably needed some play time. Marshalls are all about the mids though.

Yeah, it could be the speaker. I should go try it out with a cab. I agree about the mids, but this was too wonky for me. Cool amp though.

MonstersOfTheMidway · 08-16-2010, 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DSL100 Dude

That's right. There are quite a few of us on here and the numbers are growing. After reading the recomendation I figured what the heck, why not start up a thread for all of our stuff.

"Why not"? Why do it in the first place? Who cares, really. All you guys are trying to create your own little subdivisions, your own little clicks, and it's pointless. It's all Marshall, man!

Gtarzan81 · 08-16-2010, 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MonstersOfTheMidway

"Why not"? Why do it in the first place? Who cares, really. All you guys are trying to create your own little subdivisions, your own little clicks, and it's pointless. It's all Marshall, man!

Have you told the 6100 or dsl guys how you feel?

Youre taking all this a bit too seriously. Crank a marshall, have a beer, and relax brother.

MonstersOfTheMidway · 08-16-2010, 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gtarzan81

Have you told the 6100 or dsl guys how you feel?

Youre taking all this a bit too seriously. Crank a marshall, have a beer, and relax brother.

I couldn't be more relaxed. And believe me, at least people in the 6100 thread know that there are people here who have recognized this subdivision/click and have brought it up elsewhere (I know Marty hinted as much on a different thread, and I agree with Marty).

And believe this: there is not jealousy or envy on my part. I like those 6100s, Class 5, DSL, TSL, Plexis, Haze, JVMs, etc., but all these guys who want to huddle in their own little threads have a tendency to develop these hostile alliances and attack other members for stupid reasons. I'd like to think this time it will be different, but it's a tendency. That's all.

Gtarzan81 · 08-16-2010, 05:36 PM

Larger groups naturally subdivide along affinity and commonality lines. Happens everywhere.....churches, local chamber of commerce, schools, ect... The Marshall forum is no different.

Any group can have an "us vs them" mentality. It has to be part of the culture, and come from the leaders of the said group, that the "us vs them" mindset won''t be allowed.

DSL100 Dude · 08-16-2010, 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MonstersOfTheMidway

"Why not"? Why do it in the first place? Who cares, really. All you guys are trying to create your own little subdivisions, your own little clicks, and it's pointless. It's all Marshall, man!

My feelings on this are quite simple. One thread that has info, pictures, help etc. and general BS is normally a good reference point on any large forum. A few "regular posters" will tend to keep it going so that it will be right on the front page of the forum so that other new members will have a source to quickly find.

I do not see this as any different then the tube topics or the various guitar topics in another section.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MonstersOfTheMidway

I couldn't be more relaxed. And believe me, at least people in the 6100 thread know that there are people here who have recognized this subdivision/click and have brought it up elsewhere (I know Marty hinted as much on a different thread, and I agree with Marty).

And believe this: there is not jealousy or envy on my part. I like those 6100s, Class 5, DSL, TSL, Plexis, Haze, JVMs, etc., but all these guys who want to huddle in their own little threads have a tendency to develop these hostile alliances and attack other members for stupid reasons. I'd like to think this time it will be different, but it's a tendency. That's all.

I can't speak for anyone else but I know that I personally have no interest in making "hostile alliances" with anyone. Like you have said, it IS all Marshall and we are all part of that great big Marshall family.
I will say this. I would stop posting in the thread if it were to get the way you describe. Having a bit of back and forth ribbing between fellow members is one thing, attacking another member without reason is another.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gtarzan81

Larger groups naturally subdivide along affinity and commonality lines. Happens everywhere.....churches, local chamber of commerce, schools, ect... The Marshall forum is no different.

Any group can have an "us vs them" mentality. It has to be part of the culture, and come from the leaders of the said group, that the "us vs them" mindset won''t be allowed.

I agree. I am not going to sit on here and act like I an king of the thread or some other crazy crap. I may have started it but the admins are the ones that can lock it, delete it, or any other option that they want to do. Now that it has begun all I can hope for is that it continues in the way in which I intended.
Heck, maybe even get a sticky if it was decent enough.

And yes, I think both the Preamp and Poweramp tube threads should be stickied.

DSL100 Dude · 08-16-2010, 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rjohns1

I tried one of these out recently, and it had a strange, overbearing midrange bark. Is this characteristic of these, or was it just me? I tried several different guitars, and still, mostly midrange honk out of it. I wanted to like it, but just couldn't.

I will agree with the other guys. Let that speaker break in a bit. I played mine through my 1960 most of the day but as soon as I played the combo speaker I was like UGGGH! That is not like the one in the store. I think it is a bit honkish too. I plan on doing an intense break in period this weekend with it. I will keep you posted.

DSL100 Dude · 08-16-2010, 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by benjammin420

I love my Class 5, this little attenuator is a great match for it, I can't recommend it enough Reyes Audio Output Tamer

I personally do not really have a need for this but at the same time it really interests me so I will be having to try one out.

Are there any tone issues like what is claimed with the bigger stuff?

DSL100 Dude · 08-16-2010, 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gtarzan81

Current tubes

Orig:
v1:Marshall labeled yellow 12ax7
v2: Marshall labeled red 12ax7
output: Sovtek el84

Now:
v1:CP Tung sol low noise ax7
v2: CP tung sol high gain ax7
output: soviet el84 from marty

I may switch out to a mullard ri ax7 in v2, as i hear good things about them.

What are ya'll running?

I am bone stock right now but I think I am going to use my Martimus Maximus money that I had saved up for my DSL to go to this.

DSL100 Dude · 08-16-2010, 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RHP

I just got the Class 5 last week, I like it so far. It's a cranking little amp.

I know right! I am a C5 n00b too but I have been waiting for over a year to get one.

I am already working on number two.

edit: Oh yeah, and welcome to the Marshall Forum!

08-17-2010, 12:00 AM

I finally tried one, and it sounded WAY better in person than the video demo on Marshall's site. Actually, I think the sound/tone quality on most of their demos could be a lot better, as other models also sounded way better in person to me. Anyway...

It was obvious that one needs to roll off the low end as you turn up the volume pot-as was mentioned by whoever did that video demo on this site. The only tone issue I had was wishing for a bit more treble. Could be an easy mod. The one I tried had the 1 piece back, but didn't rattle. I really liked the little bugger, but can't justify getting one at this time. Maybe if I can sell some crap...

colchar · 08-17-2010, 01:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MonstersOfTheMidway

I couldn't be more relaxed. And believe me, at least people in the 6100 thread know that there are people here who have recognized this subdivision/click and have brought it up elsewhere (I know Marty hinted as much on a different thread, and I agree with Marty).

Do you mean clique?

Quote:

And believe this: there is not jealousy or envy on my part. I like those 6100s, Class 5, DSL, TSL, Plexis, Haze, JVMs, etc., but all these guys who want to huddle in their own little threads have a tendency to develop these hostile alliances and attack other members for stupid reasons. I'd like to think this time it will be different, but it's a tendency. That's all.

Or maybe people just figure this is the easiest way to share information about a specific amp with others who own it without having to comb through pages of threads on other amps? Seriously, it shouldn't be a big deal.

DSL100 Dude · 08-17-2010, 05:48 AM

Hey fellas, how many colors have the Class 5 been made in so far?

I know of red and green as well as black of course but I thought someone on this forum had a picture of the ones they owned and I was thinking white maybe?

benjammin420 · 08-17-2010, 06:13 AM

I've seen pictures of red and white; I've only seen black and green in person (I own a green)

DirtySteve · 08-17-2010, 03:08 PM

Hi folks, new here, but I’ve been looking around some and first I just want to say that I’m glad I’m not looking for Slash tone...

I was going to start a thread on this subject for my first post, but since it’s already started I’ll post here.
I’ve had my Class 5 for a few months now and I really love it. I play an LP style guitar with a fuzz and an OD and I don't think I've ever really had more fun playing guitar! It's causing me to learn to play better and I'm learning new things too.

Now, I’m the type that has a hard time leaving things alone so I’ve already done quite a few tube swaps. Mine came stock with a Sovtek el84, and a White and a Red label Marshall preamp tubes. (I read somewhere that the White label is a sovtek and the red label is a JJ and they looked the same when I compared them) Tubes I’ve tried in various combinations are the Marshall labels, Sovtek 12ax7 WA, WC, and LPS, Tungsol ri, ns mullard ri, EH, JJ and Penta 12ax7B preamp tubes. And Sovtek, JJ, Tad and RI Mullard EL84s.

I finally settled on a JJ el84, Tungsol ri 12ax7 in V1 and a Mullard ri 12ax7 in V2. Out of all the tubes I tried, I found this combination to be the most responsive and dynamic without getting muddy or brittle or honky or thin or,.. in other words, this combination has less things going on that I don‘t like than any of the other combinations I tried. But I don’t think it’s perfect and I may try some NOS tubes later on down the road. (when I can afford some and know more what to look for)

Ok, I'm using a JJ el84 right now, but I liked the Sovtek, too. (I’d like to try a Sovtek el84 M) I find the JJ to be darker/warmer and smoother than the sovtek, but I like them both and wish I could find a cross between the 2. To me the TAD was even darker than the JJ and I didn‘t like that. The ri Mullard seemed to be the smoothest of them all but I thought it was too bright and thin sounding, although to be fair, it was the first one I swapped and it’s been a while, so I may try it again.

Anyway, I absolutely love this amp and I'm greatful to Marshall for getting in the low watt game with a fantastic sounding and affordable amp! Now I'm going to go and play it for a while...

Steve

DSL100 Dude · 08-17-2010, 10:28 PM

Thanks Ben! That's what I'm talkin' 'bout.

I have my black one that I bought on impulse when I found out they were in stock and I have my red one on order that I have been waiting on.

What the heck, I may have to go with all four colors!

Hey Steve! Welcome to the forum. Looks like you have been working your C5 big time. Thank you for that great info. I too am wanting to get in there and start playing with the tubes to see where this thing can go.
For NOS we have an amazing source right here on the forum. Marty has a ton of knowledge and some sweet stock. Check him out on the tube topics.

benjammin420 · 08-18-2010, 01:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DSL100 Dude

Thanks Ben! That's what I'm talkin' 'bout.

I have my black one that I bought on impulse when I found out they were in stock and I have my red one on order that I have been waiting on.

What the heck, I may have to go with all four colors!

I heard the white ones are only available in the UK, if not, I would buy one of those in a heartbeat. I havent seen red in person but they are sharp, I could see myself with at least 3

esquire · 08-18-2010, 06:19 AM

Where can I pick up a red one?

benjammin420 · 08-18-2010, 06:46 AM

I thought it might not be a bad idea if there was a Class 5 orientated social group too

http://www.marshallforum.com/groups/...l-class-5.html

benjammin420 · 08-18-2010, 06:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by esquire

Where can I pick up a red one?

Your best bet would probably be to ask your local Marshall dealer. Then again I was told that the white ones are only available in the UK, and Ive heard from some Americans who own green ones that they had to order them from Canadian stores. It'd be nice though if there were regional restrictions

08-16-2010, 12:03 PM	#2 (permalink)
Gtarzan81 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Knees in the breeze Posts: 4,012	Re: A Touch of Class...Class5 Owners Welcome! If you didn't, I was going to. This should be a great place for tube reco's, speaker ideas, and whatnot. Lassez le bon temps roullez! __________________ Gibson Les Paul Studio in Blue 6100LM!!

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esquire Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Keene NH Posts: 101	Re: A Touch of Class...Class5 Owners Welcome! I own 2 of them . And I absolutely love them. Great amp ,great price. Would like to see Marshall make a 10 or 12 watt version in custom colors with a 12 speaker.And I have used them to gig out with.nothing bad to say.I heard that some of them rattle but not mine.I also own a 95 JTM 30 with 2 10's and a 1by12 cab . Another VERY underratted amp.I am running a Les Paul florentine cutaway and Fender telecaster thru a Digitach RP 500 into a Boss DD 20 gigadelay.Sounds great just plugged straight into amp with my guitar also.

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rjohns1 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 2,019	Re: A Touch of Class...Class5 Owners Welcome! I tried one of these out recently, and it had a strange, overbearing midrange bark. Is this characteristic of these, or was it just me? I tried several different guitars, and still, mostly midrange honk out of it. I wanted to like it, but just couldn't. __________________ "Everything electronic runs on smoke. Forget all that electron nonsense. Notice how stuff stops working when you let the smoke out?"

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08-16-2010, 03:41 PM	#7 (permalink)
Gtarzan81 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Knees in the breeze Posts: 4,012	Re: A Touch of Class...Class5 Owners Welcome! Current tubes Orig: v1:Marshall labeled yellow 12ax7 v2: Marshall labeled red 12ax7 output: Sovtek el84 Now: v1:CP Tung sol low noise ax7 v2: CP tung sol high gain ax7 output: soviet el84 from marty I may switch out to a mullard ri ax7 in v2, as i hear good things about them. What are ya'll running? __________________ Gibson Les Paul Studio in Blue 6100LM!!

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tonefreak Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Larsen WI. Posts: 12,064	Re: A Touch of Class...Class5 Owners Welcome! I love mids. __________________ Why waltz when you can Rock n Roll?

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RHP Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 2	Re: A Touch of Class...Class5 Owners Welcome! I just got the Class 5 last week, I like it so far. It's a cranking little amp.

08-16-2010, 05:36 PM	#15 (permalink)
Gtarzan81 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Knees in the breeze Posts: 4,012	Re: A Touch of Class...Class5 Owners Welcome! Larger groups naturally subdivide along affinity and commonality lines. Happens everywhere.....churches, local chamber of commerce, schools, ect... The Marshall forum is no different. Any group can have an "us vs them" mentality. It has to be part of the culture, and come from the leaders of the said group, that the "us vs them" mindset won''t be allowed. __________________ Gibson Les Paul Studio in Blue 6100LM!!

08-17-2010, 12:00 AM	#21 (permalink)
80s dude Guest Posts: n/a	Re: A Touch of Class...Class5 Owners Welcome! I finally tried one, and it sounded WAY better in person than the video demo on Marshall's site. Actually, I think the sound/tone quality on most of their demos could be a lot better, as other models also sounded way better in person to me. Anyway... It was obvious that one needs to roll off the low end as you turn up the volume pot-as was mentioned by whoever did that video demo on this site. The only tone issue I had was wishing for a bit more treble. Could be an easy mod. The one I tried had the 1 piece back, but didn't rattle. I really liked the little bugger, but can't justify getting one at this time. Maybe if I can sell some crap...

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benjammin420 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 295	Re: A Touch of Class...Class5 Owners Welcome! I've seen pictures of red and white; I've only seen black and green in person (I own a green) __________________ "Yeah, well, that's just like, your opinion...man"

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DirtySteve Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Lakeland FL Posts: 6,569	Re: A Touch of Class...Class5 Owners Welcome! Hi folks, new here, but I’ve been looking around some and first I just want to say that I’m glad I’m not looking for Slash tone... I was going to start a thread on this subject for my first post, but since it’s already started I’ll post here. I’ve had my Class 5 for a few months now and I really love it. I play an LP style guitar with a fuzz and an OD and I don't think I've ever really had more fun playing guitar! It's causing me to learn to play better and I'm learning new things too. Now, I’m the type that has a hard time leaving things alone so I’ve already done quite a few tube swaps. Mine came stock with a Sovtek el84, and a White and a Red label Marshall preamp tubes. (I read somewhere that the White label is a sovtek and the red label is a JJ and they looked the same when I compared them) Tubes I’ve tried in various combinations are the Marshall labels, Sovtek 12ax7 WA, WC, and LPS, Tungsol ri, ns mullard ri, EH, JJ and Penta 12ax7B preamp tubes. And Sovtek, JJ, Tad and RI Mullard EL84s. I finally settled on a JJ el84, Tungsol ri 12ax7 in V1 and a Mullard ri 12ax7 in V2. Out of all the tubes I tried, I found this combination to be the most responsive and dynamic without getting muddy or brittle or honky or thin or,.. in other words, this combination has less things going on that I don‘t like than any of the other combinations I tried. But I don’t think it’s perfect and I may try some NOS tubes later on down the road. (when I can afford some and know more what to look for) Ok, I'm using a JJ el84 right now, but I liked the Sovtek, too. (I’d like to try a Sovtek el84 M) I find the JJ to be darker/warmer and smoother than the sovtek, but I like them both and wish I could find a cross between the 2. To me the TAD was even darker than the JJ and I didn‘t like that. The ri Mullard seemed to be the smoothest of them all but I thought it was too bright and thin sounding, although to be fair, it was the first one I swapped and it’s been a while, so I may try it again. Anyway, I absolutely love this amp and I'm greatful to Marshall for getting in the low watt game with a fantastic sounding and affordable amp! Now I'm going to go and play it for a while... Steve

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