Michael1987xl

The only thing hard about that is deciding which room to keep which amp in and, then, which one you feel like plugging into at the moment.

Trust me on this. All of life's problems should be just that vexing.

__________________
Michael

What matters most is what you learn after you know it all.

2007 Marshall 1987xl MK II Vintage Re-Issue.
Univox 1221.
Kasino Model 802 (Make me an offer...please).
A few guitars and a couple of cabinets.

Marshall Amps

__________________
This advertising will not be shown in this way to registered members.
Register your free account today and become a member on Marshall Amp Forum

Gtarzan81

Well, I'm saving for a motorcycle, so if I bought the Phaez and kept the Class 5 also, I'd be a month or 2 more so away from my bike.

__________________
Gibson Les Paul Studio in Blue
6100LM!!

benjammin420

His prices are very good, I'm just terrible at saving up money. I'm thinking about making it a xmas present for myself, I think I could put down a deposit when I order, and pay the rest when he goes to actual make the amp. He gave me a rough quote but we didn't really nail a final design. I pretty much just want a 1974x head.

__________________
"Yeah, well, that's just like, your opinion...man"

Gtarzan81

I told him I was after the Jimmy Page "The song remains the same" live album tone, and proposed a 1987x head in 2 EL84. He said he hadnt tried that yet, but thought it would sound awesome, and would be a bit more gainey than the el34 version.

That's where things stand as of right now .

__________________
Gibson Les Paul Studio in Blue
6100LM!!

benjammin420

That sounds cool, I didnt know he made amps that power full. A 50w amp with a 1/2 power switch would be cool too

__________________
"Yeah, well, that's just like, your opinion...man"

Gtarzan81

2xEL84 would be about 20 watts at most. Most likely in the 14-18 watt range, depending on how the circuit is tuned.

__________________
Gibson Les Paul Studio in Blue
6100LM!!

DirtySteve

Sorry,... no relation,... but I have read his posts and I did try an 8ohm WGS Green Beret and 8ohm Veteran 30 and I didn't like the results.

By the way, (ref. post #25) I'm using a Sovtek EL84 now and I definately prefer it over the JJ I had in there... More open sounding and a little brighter.

What pedals are you guys using with your C5s? I'm using a Black box Russian Muff that I've modded (I don't even think it's a muff anymore), an MXR Classic OD, and occasionally a GE-7 for a boost. I'm thinking about a good boost but I don't know anything about them. Just curious as to what y'all are using...

Steve

benjammin420

I have a Keeley Fuzz Head and Java Boost, as well as a modded DS-1. I also have a Boss delay and chorus, EVH phase 90, and a Danelectro octave/fuzz

__________________
"Yeah, well, that's just like, your opinion...man"

DSL100 Dude

I have to say +1 on getting the new custom "mini 87" and keeping the Class 5. The bike will come too. It took me 20 years to get a Marshall head and cab after selling my previous stack.

The idea of the "mini 87" sounds fantastic. I could see that being a big hit.

__________________
1987x
DSL 100
Class 5
Class 5 Rojo
G30RCD
1960A

DSL100 Dude

Steve, I normally use my TS-9 as a boost but I am getting a Seymour Duncan Pickup Booster. Several fellas on here have given it a thumbs up and it is supposed to be very transparent which is what I am looking for.

__________________
1987x
DSL 100
Class 5
Class 5 Rojo
G30RCD
1960A

DirtySteve

I looked at a Java boost, but at the store I was at they didn't have a C5 so I didn't try it out. The discription seems like it would work very well. Can you tell me a little about how it works with the Class 5? I have a feeling a boost might be just what I need.

benjammin420

It works very well with the C5, its a mild boost, just enough to kick the tube a little harder. I prefer it with single coils, to fatten them up, though it works good with humbuckers too. Great for Tony Iommi/Rory Gallagher/Frank Zappa type tones

__________________
"Yeah, well, that's just like, your opinion...man"

DirtySteve

I've been wanting a RI TS-808 for a long time, but I keep putting it off. Maybe it's time to go for it. I will certainly check out an SD Pickup Booster,.. thanks!

DirtySteve

Very cool! thank you, sir!

benjammin420

I have a demo of the Java boost in conjunction with the DS1, but thru my Fender Champ though. I can put together a clip with the C5 if you like

__________________
"Yeah, well, that's just like, your opinion...man"

DSL100 Dude

The TS-808 would be very nice. I would get one but it is kind of hard to justify the purchase since I have a TS-9. I know, close but not quite but...

When I feel like getting really over the top and in to 80's kinda sound the TS-9 as an overdrive pushing the C5 dimed is a lot of fun. To my ears the TS-9 shapes the tone too. I feel like it levels it out quite a bit.

It is not quite as noticable when using it as a boost but it is still there. I am hoping the SD will just give me straight up boost to see how far I can push the C5.

__________________
1987x
DSL 100
Class 5
Class 5 Rojo
G30RCD
1960A

DirtySteve

I ruined my ts-9dx trying to modify it so I haven't been able to try one, but I have to believe it will work better than the MXR I'm using now. That's why I want the 808. I had already modified my ts-9dx to 808 spec.s but I ruined the pedal because I wouldn't leave it alone.

Dude, when you say "over the top and in to 80's kinda sound" what is it you mean exactly? To me that means a lot of things, but I think of tighter and more palm muting friendly.

Benjammin, it's very cool of you to offer to go through the trouble of doing that, but I don't know how it would compair with the C5, would it tell me anything?... hey, it just dawned on me that in 25 years of playing around at playing electric guitar, I have never played a Fender... ever!

poeman33

I have been using just a stock Boss DS-1. It loses bottom end, but otherwise sounds okay. I would really like to give the pedal the Keeley mod and see what it sounds like.

__________________
---------------
CSA (Certified Strat Addict)

DSL100 Dude

That is exactly what I ment. Everything gets very tight and for lack of a better term, compressed. It still has that great tone of the amp but with the higher gain and more focused. It reminds me of an almost Randy Rhodes sound to it.

More like an over the top vintage tone. For modern stuff I reckon it would still not really be that intense.

__________________
1987x
DSL 100
Class 5
Class 5 Rojo
G30RCD
1960A

DSL100 Dude

Dude! Your in Canada and not giving HT a shot at it???? His OFA stuff has been getting praise by several guys on here. I am actually sending my DS-1 to him as well. Just a matter of getting my lazy arse to the post office.

__________________
1987x
DSL 100
Class 5
Class 5 Rojo
G30RCD
1960A

DirtySteve

Well, that does it! "tight, higher gain, more focused, over the top vintage". those are all the right words, and that's all I want from an OD or boost. All I'm using my MXR for now is to goose my Russian Muff. I think I'll try both the TS-9 and the 808 and see what I think. For the record,.. I don't want modern sounds, that's why I love the C5. I just think now I might be able to get all I need from one amp. That would be sweet.

Gtarzan81

I'm pretty sure I'm gonna send him my TS5 here soon. Supposedly those are easier to mod to TS808 specs than the TS7 I just got.

__________________
Gibson Les Paul Studio in Blue
6100LM!!

benjammin420

There is a DIY mod discussed in this thread (basically you clip the D4 and D5 diodes) I tried it and loved it, and everyone who's done it has had a positive reaction, I recommend it
Boss DS-1... like it/hate it/DIY mods/ANYTHING - My Les Paul Forums

__________________
"Yeah, well, that's just like, your opinion...man"

DSL100 Dude

I jammed this evening with the TS-9 on the C5 dimed. I set the tone straight up at 12 o'clock, drive at about 9 o'clock and level cranked.

Yeah, that bad boy was pushed to the limits and jammin'. I know the speaker is still in that break in period so the highs if you stand right in the path of the speaker are brutal but once you get out of that "nasty zone" the setup has a great 80's vibe to it.

I played a melody of stuff from Cinderella's "Shake Me" to Kingdom Come's "Get it On" to assorted Dokken and Skid Row's "Youth Gone Wild". I really had fun with some early Motley Crue doing "Ten Seconds to Love" (which by the way just friggin sounded amazing) to the Iron Maiden classic "Wrathchild". Even pulled back the gain for a bit and fooled around with a bit of AC/DC and Blackfoot.

It was a fun little jam/break in period.

__________________
1987x
DSL 100
Class 5
Class 5 Rojo
G30RCD
1960A

Roadburn

Ahh, well it was a bit too obvious anyway


I tried my Ibanez FZ7 (This fuzz is really over the top, 3 "damage" settings, 1 no damage, 2 10% damage, 3 100% damage. 10% and 100% make it sound as if you recorded it with extra mic clipping)

MXR CS-OD gives a nice boost, the overdrive/gain department isn't as good though. Very chirpy, like a cricket.

Havn't tried my Schaller fuzz/sustain yet (fuzz gain dial is dusty), and havn't tried my Korg either (not a lot of stomp boxes in it, just amps, speaker emulation, modulation, reverb and delay. I don't know how to use it with a tube amp)



Maybe I've been looking too much for other people's sound instead of inventing my own.

__________________
Gibson Les Paul Standard (2001) Honeyburst
Fernandes Japan Customshop
Marshall Class 5 (MV by DrTube)
H&K TubeMeister 18
1965A (4x G10L-35)
Korg AX1500g, Line6 GX, MXR GT-OD, Schaller Fuzz/Sustain, Ibanez FZ7 Fuzz

--->GAIN=/=DISTORTION<---

poeman33

Thanks very much. I might try this.

__________________
---------------
CSA (Certified Strat Addict)

Micky

This works. Personally I kinda like mods where no drilling or case mods are required. They are easy to reverse.
On my DS-1 I unsoldered the diodes, plus I replaced a couple caps and am ready to mod/replace a couple resistor values.

Great pedal, very versatile and inexpensive!

__________________
I can understand stupidity, but there is no excuse for ignorance...
Marshall MHZ15, DSL40c, M4, 4X12 full stack, Gibson LP, VOX, Eminence, Celestion, Ovation, Fender & more...

DSL100 Dude

Seriously?

I was asked to turn it down today. I had to laugh. I finished up practice at about a little below nine o'clock and when it came time to do the show I dimed it.

They came up after the show and said thank you and that it sounded much more blended.

__________________
1987x
DSL 100
Class 5
Class 5 Rojo
G30RCD
1960A

benjammin420

too bad youre not on the MLP forum, I was trying to tell people that some players dont think the C5 is too loud for home use (thinking of your comments here) but they ignored me

__________________
"Yeah, well, that's just like, your opinion...man"

DSL100 Dude

Too funny. Maybe I should join up just to "enlighten" the group.

I can certainly understand folks in apartments that only have a common wall to deal with but I am really shocked at how many people think the amp is too loud. Makes me wonder how companies have been selling large amps for all these years.

__________________
1987x
DSL 100
Class 5
Class 5 Rojo
G30RCD
1960A