Paul Kossof

Tommy Griffiths · 06-02-2010, 06:29 PM

Hey guys. As you might know I am a VERY big fan of Paul Kossoff (Shame he was taken from us at a VERY young age). But I am wondering what are the attributes to his town. I know he used a Marshall Plexi and used an Orange amp once on Top of the pops.

I considered getting a Marshall Class 5 as I know his tone is mostly a cranked up Marshall more than anything.

Anything else you guys can add to help me get his tone? As far as I know it is a bare tone, No pedals. Paul Kossoff was just direct to amp.

Rock on.

Sir Don · 06-02-2010, 07:10 PM

Start with a Gibson Les Paul straight into a 1959SLP, that's about it.

guitarman8 · 06-02-2010, 07:58 PM

Use a heavy set of strings and vibrato at double speed. You can get his tone with most marshalls loud and not too much overdrive on the master volume type.

I figurede out so many of Free's songs. My favorites for tone are The Steeler, I'm a Mover and Walk in my Shadow, any band I'm in we cover these songs whether known or not.

T-Bird · 06-03-2010, 02:40 AM

Hi.

RIP Paul.

Don't forget to use bass cabs, that's one big contributing part in the sound of some of the early "heavy" players. As the break-up is different, so is the interaction between the amp and the cab.

Regards
Sam

Lespaulnmarshall · 06-03-2010, 07:03 AM

Just plug your axe in, crank your volume, and ROCK out! Just plug and play... Plug and play.

Brett Blackmore · 06-03-2010, 08:00 AM

Hi,

I found this - I hope it is not too much too read:

"First, many say that Koss preferred Marshall Super Bass heads, though he apparently also used Super Leads and Super PAs. Super Basses and Super Leads supposedly were largely the same (as was the Super PA), and at the time many Marshalls were one-offs – basically the same, but different components here and there.

The folks at the Plexi Palace forums are super-educated about Marshalls and Marshall components, and seem to be up on the finer points of Koss’s preferred Marshalls. But he may not have used a Marshall for the studio version of “All Right Now.” Here’s what one person wrote on the forum:

My memory says the man used a Selmer T&B 50 [amp] on that record. I can’t prove it because I don’t remember who told me. But I do have a Selmer T&B 50 and it sounds “right on” with an appropriate guitar. I can get that tone easily with the Selmer and a [Gibson] L5S. I still have a Les Paul Special, which comes close through a Marshall, but the Selmer is the key element. Like I said…a strange choice, but [Koss] worked in the Selmer store. If he got a good one, would he let go?

Interesting. Selmer amps apparently didn’t go very far, possibly because they were eclipsed by Vox, but there are a few kicking around and have their devotees.

Koss’s Marshalls

> Free had Marshalls pretty much all the way, from Koss’s early ‘66 JTM45 (thru a homemade 4×12 with Selmer brickwork cloth) to their multiple stacks based around Super Bass/Lead and PA heads. That’s what’s in all of the pictures and live clips.

> However, a Super PA is essentially a Super Lead and Super Bass sound-wise. I’m not sure which input he was using. I think it would be fair to say he was using the Super Bass “side” of the Super PA.

> In live shows supporting “Tons of Sobs,” Koss began using a 100-watt Marshall Super Lead head with dual 4×12 Marshall cabinets equipped with bass speakers, which he felt had a more rounded tone than the guitar speakers.

> His ‘69 Super Bass had a mid ‘69 metal panel. It was an absolutely fantastic sounding amp. It had ‘his’ tone no matter where you put the controls (they really didn’t do much). It was stupid loud. The mains was one of the high-current ones.

> The biggest change [in that '69 Super Bass] was the slope resister was a 33k, and it had the additional .68uf cap in the tone stack. The other caps were right for a Super Bass (250pf/500pf):

- Standard Super Bass shared cathode
- 33k slope with 250pf treble cap
- Looks like a 100k feedback resistor
- v2 bypass cap is a .68
- .005?? [not sure] on the volume control

> Almost the perfect mix and match of Lead and Bass components – probably as thick as a milkshake with tons of undertones.

Koss didn’t use a “standard” Super Bass or Super Lead, if there was such a thing as “standard.”

His Les Pauls

He owned several ’50s and ’60s Les Pauls, notably a ‘59 burst stripped to a natural finish (in the video linked to below), and a ‘58 he got in a trade with Eric Clapton: Koss traded a 1957 black Les Paul Custom for it.

All apparently had high action and heavy strings (11s and/or 12s), and he is rumored to have used heavy picks.

Here’s his full list of guitars, compiled by user Kossoff_Fan at lespaulforum.com:

1) Yamaha FG 150E acoustic.
2) Guild acoustic, now owned by Paul’s daughter.
3) Gibson Hummingbird acoustic.
4) 1957 Gibson Les Paul TV/TV Jr. – TV Yellow, one pickup, first electric guitar.
5) 1954 Les Paul Custom, black, two P90s.
6) 1957 Les Paul Custom, black; 3-pickup, traded to Clapton.
7) 1958 or ‘59 Gibson Les Paul Sunburst, tigerstripe finish used w/ Black Cat Bones [Koss's pre-Free band].
8) 1958 darkburst Les Paul Sunburst – Traded from Clapton, later owned by Terry Newman and Paul Rodgers, auctioned off for charity in September 2000.
9) 1960 Les Paul Sunburst – Exchanged with Kenny King, first Les Paul, later owned by Gary Winterflood. This guitar is featured in “Burst, The 1958-60 Les Paul Standard” by Vic DaPra & Jay Scott. This is the one with the label w/ Koss’s name and address on the inside back plate.
10) 1960 Les Paul Sunburst, bright red – In the Stealer video, now owned by Arthur Ramm. This guitar is featured in “The Gibson Les Paul” book by Tony Bacon & Paul Day.
11) 1959 Les Paul Sunburst, stripped to a natural finish. This guitar is featured in Guitarist magazine, March 1994.
12) Fender Stratocaster – White, 1957 neck, 1960 body, 1964 pick-ups, mint-green pickguard. [Possibly the one owned by Dave Murray of Iron Maiden, or maybe it was the other one Koss owned.]
13) Fender Stratocaster.
14) Gibson Melody Maker, sunburst.
15) Gibson Les Paul Recording.
16) Gibson L5S.
17) Gibson ES-335, block-neck."

Cheers Brett

Tommy Griffiths · 06-03-2010, 04:36 PM

Wow, Thanks for the info guys, So on a budget, Do you think a Marshall (Non master volume AKA Class 5) would be good along with an Epiphon Les paul? Im not looking to nail it as I do not own his hands, Just the ballpark. A plexi is a dream at the moment, They cost my right arm and I need that....Thanks for the info on Paul Kossoff it was an interesting read and very educational. Paul Kossoff remains one of my favourite players although he was underrated and shadowed by many such as Eric Clapton.

george76 · 06-03-2010, 05:28 PM

the bass speakers he is know to have used were T1511 celestions (G12M 25 watters with bass cones). These are the speakers marshall used in their early bass cabs. They are very similar to the T1221's (lead cone G12M) but slightly thicker/muddier sounding.

ive also seen him use orange cabs on different videos, I think most of those old orange cabs had G12H T1281's (bass cones again). but not 100% sure about those. these certainly sound like t1281's to me...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NH5wbYP5xkQ#t=1m38s

if you are on a budget you should be able to pick up a set of blackbacks fairly cheaply which should get you pretty close.

if money is no object go for the pre-rola labelled speakers with the 014 pulsonic cones.

Brett Blackmore · 06-04-2010, 07:03 AM

Hi,

yes, you will get close to his sound with a Les Paul and Marshall Plexi but you will have a problem with the volume you need to get that sound. Plexis have a lot of headroom and don't break up early. You will need :-

1) an overdrive pedal (cheap, but they change the sound...)
2) or an antenuator (expensive...)
3) or a Master Volume mod (cheap, but a hassle if you don't know anybody who can do it...)

Cheers Brett

Tommy Griffiths · 06-04-2010, 01:52 PM

Volume is no problem, My neighbours love me. I play with my amp on ten most days. Speaker configs shouldnt be a problem so thanks for the reccommendations.

Tommy Griffiths · 06-06-2010, 06:29 PM

Any other advice people can give?

JohnnyG · 08-19-2010, 08:07 AM

you could always look for a used selmer amp to get the classic "all right now" tone. Go for one of the 50w heads as it's distorts earlier than the 100.

Belive me the selmer SV series from the 1970's is a lot easier on the pocket than a same era plexi / jmp!!!

nedcronin · 08-19-2010, 11:15 AM

I think the Partridge Family used Selmers too. I love Free they had such great songs.
Back in the early 70's my uncle used a Baldwin Exterminator in a band......check out the ad from 1969
http://www.vintageguitars.org.uk/adDetails/81

RickyLee · 08-19-2010, 07:17 PM

The "All Right Now" tone to me is one of those magical tones that I have never been able to capture. My cover band plays that song and I have always played the solo pretty much note for note - even though his vibrato is quite tough to reproduce for sure. As for the guitar tone of that song, I need to actually sit down and give it a good listen (which I ususally don't like to dissect a song - more so one that I truely love) because I am starting to wonder if the two left and right panned guitar tracks are 12 string electrics, or even just one of the two maybe an electric 12 string??

Anyone hearing what I am hearing on this? Or confirm or set me straight on this?

Tommy Griffiths · 02-07-2011, 10:18 PM

Sorry for long absence, I am still trying to track down a Selmer amp here in the Uk.

TheMullerFan · 03-21-2011, 10:15 AM

I think pure volume is a huge part of his sound. Just be loud as hell, lean back on your stack and wail!

peterichardz · 03-21-2011, 05:12 PM

Tommy, We play several Free songs in our shows. I get very close to Pauls tone with my '77 JMP 2204 thru a basketweave cab with greenbacks.

We do play VERY LOUD and I do push my EL34's hard.

SoloDallas · 03-21-2011, 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by peterichardz

Tommy, We play several Free songs in our shows. I get very close to Pauls tone with my '77 JMP 2204 thru a basketweave cab with greenbacks.

We do play VERY LOUD and I do push my EL34's hard.

I think this is the way to do it. The basketwave furthermore is IT. Especially the vintage ones. They're equalizers on their own.

I do too play All Right Now, I have been playing it for circa 20 years. Only recently I got closer.

I have recently made a collaboration - for good fun - of it. Played from the multitracks available, I removed Kossoff's guitars, played over it and remixed it. I'm the player on the left

YouTube - All Right Now - (collab with SoloDallas)

demonufo · 03-21-2011, 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brett Blackmore

Super Basses and Super Leads supposedly were largely the same (as was the Super PA), and at the time many Marshalls were one-offs – basically the same, but different components here and there.

The early incarnations were quite close, but by 1968 the circuits were less similar. The split (rather than shared) cathode of the later superleads was quite a bit more gainy and aggressive, and through the years the Superleads became brighter and brighter. All the re-issues (other than the JTM45-100) have split cathode also, and most have later 70's style circuitry rather than the classic sounding amps. Even the handwired SLP isn't really very authentic.

Back to the OP;
As for a class 5 being close, well I wouldn't bank on it, but you can always try.

germ_x · 03-22-2011, 02:11 PM

But a cranked Class5 through a greenback cab will sound within a block or so of the ballpark - surely much closer than any other modern Marshall (except, perhaps, the VM, but I think the Class5 would be closer [I have/had both]).

06-02-2010, 06:29 PM	#1 (permalink)
Tommy Griffiths Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 77	Paul Kossof Hey guys. As you might know I am a VERY big fan of Paul Kossoff (Shame he was taken from us at a VERY young age). But I am wondering what are the attributes to his town. I know he used a Marshall Plexi and used an Orange amp once on Top of the pops. I considered getting a Marshall Class 5 as I know his tone is mostly a cranked up Marshall more than anything. Anything else you guys can add to help me get his tone? As far as I know it is a bare tone, No pedals. Paul Kossoff was just direct to amp. Rock on. __________________ Equipment I Currently Have No Guitars Or Amplifiers. I Am Looking For A New Setup At The Moment. Long Live The Telecaster.

06-02-2010, 07:10 PM	#2 (permalink)
Sir Don Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Adelaide, South Australia Posts: 518	Re: Paul Kossof Start with a Gibson Les Paul straight into a 1959SLP, that's about it. __________________ My gear: 2204, 2210, 2555, 9005, 1959, 5005, 4103, 2100, JCM1 H, Class 5, DSL50, JVM410HJS https://www.facebook.com/rockinthebo...age_fan_invite

06-02-2010, 07:58 PM	#3 (permalink)
guitarman8 Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: San Francisco Posts: 97	Re: Paul Kossof Use a heavy set of strings and vibrato at double speed. You can get his tone with most marshalls loud and not too much overdrive on the master volume type. I figurede out so many of Free's songs. My favorites for tone are The Steeler, I'm a Mover and Walk in my Shadow, any band I'm in we cover these songs whether known or not.

06-03-2010, 02:40 AM	#4 (permalink)
T-Bird Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Finland (Northern Europe) Posts: 519	Re: Paul Kossof Hi. RIP Paul. Don't forget to use bass cabs, that's one big contributing part in the sound of some of the early "heavy" players. As the break-up is different, so is the interaction between the amp and the cab. Regards Sam

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06-03-2010, 08:00 AM	#6 (permalink)
Brett Blackmore Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Bingen, Germany Posts: 461	Re: Paul Kossof Hi, I found this - I hope it is not too much too read: "First, many say that Koss preferred Marshall Super Bass heads, though he apparently also used Super Leads and Super PAs. Super Basses and Super Leads supposedly were largely the same (as was the Super PA), and at the time many Marshalls were one-offs – basically the same, but different components here and there. The folks at the Plexi Palace forums are super-educated about Marshalls and Marshall components, and seem to be up on the finer points of Koss’s preferred Marshalls. But he may not have used a Marshall for the studio version of “All Right Now.” Here’s what one person wrote on the forum: My memory says the man used a Selmer T&B 50 [amp] on that record. I can’t prove it because I don’t remember who told me. But I do have a Selmer T&B 50 and it sounds “right on” with an appropriate guitar. I can get that tone easily with the Selmer and a [Gibson] L5S. I still have a Les Paul Special, which comes close through a Marshall, but the Selmer is the key element. Like I said…a strange choice, but [Koss] worked in the Selmer store. If he got a good one, would he let go? Interesting. Selmer amps apparently didn’t go very far, possibly because they were eclipsed by Vox, but there are a few kicking around and have their devotees. Koss’s Marshalls > Free had Marshalls pretty much all the way, from Koss’s early ‘66 JTM45 (thru a homemade 4×12 with Selmer brickwork cloth) to their multiple stacks based around Super Bass/Lead and PA heads. That’s what’s in all of the pictures and live clips. > However, a Super PA is essentially a Super Lead and Super Bass sound-wise. I’m not sure which input he was using. I think it would be fair to say he was using the Super Bass “side” of the Super PA. > In live shows supporting “Tons of Sobs,” Koss began using a 100-watt Marshall Super Lead head with dual 4×12 Marshall cabinets equipped with bass speakers, which he felt had a more rounded tone than the guitar speakers. > His ‘69 Super Bass had a mid ‘69 metal panel. It was an absolutely fantastic sounding amp. It had ‘his’ tone no matter where you put the controls (they really didn’t do much). It was stupid loud. The mains was one of the high-current ones. > The biggest change [in that '69 Super Bass] was the slope resister was a 33k, and it had the additional .68uf cap in the tone stack. The other caps were right for a Super Bass (250pf/500pf): - Standard Super Bass shared cathode - 33k slope with 250pf treble cap - Looks like a 100k feedback resistor - v2 bypass cap is a .68 - .005?? [not sure] on the volume control > Almost the perfect mix and match of Lead and Bass components – probably as thick as a milkshake with tons of undertones. Koss didn’t use a “standard” Super Bass or Super Lead, if there was such a thing as “standard.” His Les Pauls He owned several ’50s and ’60s Les Pauls, notably a ‘59 burst stripped to a natural finish (in the video linked to below), and a ‘58 he got in a trade with Eric Clapton: Koss traded a 1957 black Les Paul Custom for it. All apparently had high action and heavy strings (11s and/or 12s), and he is rumored to have used heavy picks. Here’s his full list of guitars, compiled by user Kossoff_Fan at lespaulforum.com: 1) Yamaha FG 150E acoustic. 2) Guild acoustic, now owned by Paul’s daughter. 3) Gibson Hummingbird acoustic. 4) 1957 Gibson Les Paul TV/TV Jr. – TV Yellow, one pickup, first electric guitar. 5) 1954 Les Paul Custom, black, two P90s. 6) 1957 Les Paul Custom, black; 3-pickup, traded to Clapton. 7) 1958 or ‘59 Gibson Les Paul Sunburst, tigerstripe finish used w/ Black Cat Bones [Koss's pre-Free band]. 8) 1958 darkburst Les Paul Sunburst – Traded from Clapton, later owned by Terry Newman and Paul Rodgers, auctioned off for charity in September 2000. 9) 1960 Les Paul Sunburst – Exchanged with Kenny King, first Les Paul, later owned by Gary Winterflood. This guitar is featured in “Burst, The 1958-60 Les Paul Standard” by Vic DaPra & Jay Scott. This is the one with the label w/ Koss’s name and address on the inside back plate. 10) 1960 Les Paul Sunburst, bright red – In the Stealer video, now owned by Arthur Ramm. This guitar is featured in “The Gibson Les Paul” book by Tony Bacon & Paul Day. 11) 1959 Les Paul Sunburst, stripped to a natural finish. This guitar is featured in Guitarist magazine, March 1994. 12) Fender Stratocaster – White, 1957 neck, 1960 body, 1964 pick-ups, mint-green pickguard. [Possibly the one owned by Dave Murray of Iron Maiden, or maybe it was the other one Koss owned.] 13) Fender Stratocaster. 14) Gibson Melody Maker, sunburst. 15) Gibson Les Paul Recording. 16) Gibson L5S. 17) Gibson ES-335, block-neck." Cheers Brett

06-03-2010, 04:36 PM	#7 (permalink)
Tommy Griffiths Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 77	Re: Paul Kossof Wow, Thanks for the info guys, So on a budget, Do you think a Marshall (Non master volume AKA Class 5) would be good along with an Epiphon Les paul? Im not looking to nail it as I do not own his hands, Just the ballpark. A plexi is a dream at the moment, They cost my right arm and I need that....Thanks for the info on Paul Kossoff it was an interesting read and very educational. Paul Kossoff remains one of my favourite players although he was underrated and shadowed by many such as Eric Clapton. __________________ Equipment I Currently Have No Guitars Or Amplifiers. I Am Looking For A New Setup At The Moment. Long Live The Telecaster.

06-03-2010, 05:28 PM	#8 (permalink)
george76 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 735	Re: Paul Kossof the bass speakers he is know to have used were T1511 celestions (G12M 25 watters with bass cones). These are the speakers marshall used in their early bass cabs. They are very similar to the T1221's (lead cone G12M) but slightly thicker/muddier sounding. ive also seen him use orange cabs on different videos, I think most of those old orange cabs had G12H T1281's (bass cones again). but not 100% sure about those. these certainly sound like t1281's to me... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NH5wbYP5xkQ#t=1m38s if you are on a budget you should be able to pick up a set of blackbacks fairly cheaply which should get you pretty close. if money is no object go for the pre-rola labelled speakers with the 014 pulsonic cones.

06-04-2010, 07:03 AM	#9 (permalink)
Brett Blackmore Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Bingen, Germany Posts: 461	Re: Paul Kossof Hi, yes, you will get close to his sound with a Les Paul and Marshall Plexi but you will have a problem with the volume you need to get that sound. Plexis have a lot of headroom and don't break up early. You will need :- 1) an overdrive pedal (cheap, but they change the sound...) 2) or an antenuator (expensive...) 3) or a Master Volume mod (cheap, but a hassle if you don't know anybody who can do it...) Cheers Brett

06-04-2010, 01:52 PM	#10 (permalink)
Tommy Griffiths Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 77	Re: Paul Kossof Volume is no problem, My neighbours love me. I play with my amp on ten most days. Speaker configs shouldnt be a problem so thanks for the reccommendations. __________________ Equipment I Currently Have No Guitars Or Amplifiers. I Am Looking For A New Setup At The Moment. Long Live The Telecaster.

06-06-2010, 06:29 PM	#11 (permalink)
Tommy Griffiths Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 77	Re: Paul Kossof Any other advice people can give? __________________ Equipment I Currently Have No Guitars Or Amplifiers. I Am Looking For A New Setup At The Moment. Long Live The Telecaster.

08-19-2010, 08:07 AM	#12 (permalink)
JohnnyG Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: The toon aka Newcastle upon Tyne Posts: 17	Re: Paul Kossof you could always look for a used selmer amp to get the classic "all right now" tone. Go for one of the 50w heads as it's distorts earlier than the 100. Belive me the selmer SV series from the 1970's is a lot easier on the pocket than a same era plexi / jmp!!! __________________ I only have two sound levels Loud and VERY loud

08-19-2010, 11:15 AM	#13 (permalink)
nedcronin Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Rhode Island Posts: 1,445	Re: Paul Kossof I think the Partridge Family used Selmers too. I love Free they had such great songs. Back in the early 70's my uncle used a Baldwin Exterminator in a band......check out the ad from 1969 http://www.vintageguitars.org.uk/adDetails/81 __________________ Check out my Marshall Amp Lovers facebook page if you facebook....click below Click Here if you love Marshalls! Come Join the TSL Tribe!

08-19-2010, 07:17 PM	#14 (permalink)
RickyLee Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Riverside CA U.S.A. Posts: 3,140	Re: Paul Kossof The "All Right Now" tone to me is one of those magical tones that I have never been able to capture. My cover band plays that song and I have always played the solo pretty much note for note - even though his vibrato is quite tough to reproduce for sure. As for the guitar tone of that song, I need to actually sit down and give it a good listen (which I ususally don't like to dissect a song - more so one that I truely love) because I am starting to wonder if the two left and right panned guitar tracks are 12 string electrics, or even just one of the two maybe an electric 12 string?? Anyone hearing what I am hearing on this? Or confirm or set me straight on this?

02-07-2011, 10:18 PM	#15 (permalink)
Tommy Griffiths Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 77	Re: Paul Kossof Sorry for long absence, I am still trying to track down a Selmer amp here in the Uk. __________________ Equipment I Currently Have No Guitars Or Amplifiers. I Am Looking For A New Setup At The Moment. Long Live The Telecaster.

03-21-2011, 10:15 AM	#16 (permalink)
TheMullerFan Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Right next door to hell Posts: 10	Re: Paul Kossof I think pure volume is a huge part of his sound. Just be loud as hell, lean back on your stack and wail!

03-21-2011, 05:12 PM	#17 (permalink)
peterichardz Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Willard, Ohio Posts: 635	Re: Paul Kossof Tommy, We play several Free songs in our shows. I get very close to Pauls tone with my '77 JMP 2204 thru a basketweave cab with greenbacks. We do play VERY LOUD and I do push my EL34's hard. __________________ *The Sneaky Pete Band* *Loud and Proud for 41 years* 2 '77 JMP 50 watt MV's 1 1960AX W G12M's 1 1960A W/ EVM12L's 1 1960A W/ G12 75's 1 1965A Modded & Loaded with 2 EVM12L's 1 112AVT Loaded with EV SRO Seymore Duncan Convertible 100 watt 2 Gibson Les Paul Jr.s Gibson Les Paul Standard Gibson Firebird Epi. Custom Shop Les Paul Jr. Epi. Les Paul Classic Quilt Top Epi. Korina Explorer Epi. Les Paul Chamilien

03-22-2011, 02:11 PM	#20 (permalink)
germ_x Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 138	Re: Paul Kossof But a cranked Class5 through a greenback cab will sound within a block or so of the ballpark - surely much closer than any other modern Marshall (except, perhaps, the VM, but I think the Class5 would be closer [I have/had both]).

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