Jamiee

Hello, I was down my local music shop when I asked them if they had any TSL's I could see. And they didn't have any in stock, saying that the JVM's were like the 'new' TSL's.

Is there a difference between the 2?
Cheers
Jamie

stryker59

oh yeah there is a difference! they are two totally amps in sound and features! the jvm 410 has more gain than any marshall in history and can sound like a jcm 800, a plexi, and has the best clean channel of any marshall available to date! (of course this is my opinion). i have the 410h head and absolutely loooooove it!!!!!

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Jamiee

Ok thanks, Ill have to try the JVM next time I go there, see if its as good as you say

stryker59

let us know how you like it!

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RachelMorgan

Note: the JVM does NOT use diode clipping -- it is all tube. I'm not so sure about the TSL.

rocker41

JVM is an outstanding amp. It .looks intimidating at first but it is really just your normal amp times four seperate channels. The midi works great, with ad ons like a gt-10 or whatever. The only trouble is it needs a noise gate on some of the high gain channels. The ISP decimator works well. Give it a try, I think you will like it. You don't have to dime the gain, like alot of other amps. I like to set my gain down lower and then move my volume up to an acceptable level then increase my gain. It seems to cut down on some of the squeeling.

coldsteal2

I dont know why but some people think
that Marshall Tube amps are using diodes
for distortion, and as far as i know thats
only in the MG series
I think the same person claiming the DSL 401 was
only a Hybrid

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MonstersOfTheMidway

Go with JVM

BoD

I just got a JVM 210H and love it. I traded in my TSL 100 to get it and have had no regrets. This amp does have a bit more white noise than the TSL but it hasn't been a real problem for me.

NO FX NEEDED!!!!

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stryker59

mxr smartgate would fix that!

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Jamiee

Tried out both amps the other day and both are I must say, pretty stunning bits of amping machinery
I have to say though, the JVM has one hell of a bite on the gain and a sweet clean channel, plus a lot of extra features.
I think I know what amp I shall be getting now

stryker59

awesome!!!!!

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enuenu

Hey stryker59, does your JVM have to be cranked hard to get good gain tone? I would like to use it in my back shed at home (close neighbours) as well as at gigs.
Also, do you find it is a noisy amp, ie lots of hum and fuzz when not playing?

Rocktiger74

I think you could get a HotPlate for this, or the Marshall Powerbreak

stryker59

there are good tones in this amp that you can get without having to crank it up.....however it is still a tube amp and i think it sounds its best cranked, so i use the thd hotplate!
as for the noise, it does have some white noise the louder you get it and the high gain is gonna be noisy...nature of the beast...i run a noisegate for this and it helps....

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RachelMorgan

ISP Decimator G-string for the win against the high gain noise.

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