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chef · 10-23-2009, 12:53 AM

From Dallas, just signed up. Been playing thru a '76 JMP 100w and '82 Carvin 4X12 for quite a while. I just put in 2 greenbacks and 2 70/80s a few months ago (the orginal Carvins turned to dust) and seems to be working fine thus far. Any suggestions on getting to most out of this set up? I also play a '73 SG Standard and a '74 Les Paul Deluxe retrofitted with T Tops, so it's more like a Standard now.

MacMan · 10-23-2009, 06:24 AM

welcome

Hollowbody · 10-23-2009, 11:12 AM

Hey, welcome.

Please excuse my ignorance, I have had 2 Les Pauls at different times but I never heard the term T Top. Is that for pickups?

chef · 10-24-2009, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Hollowbody

Hey, welcome.

Please excuse my ignorance, I have had 2 Les Pauls at different times but I never heard the term T Top. Is that for pickups?

I didn't put them in but from what I understand they are Gibson pickups. on the top they have a very faint "T", thus the name. They sound good but have been thinking of putting a Jeff Beck in the bridge, I need a bit more crunch.

Hollowbody · 10-24-2009, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by chef

I didn't put them in but from what I understand they are Gibson pickups. on the top they have a very faint "T", thus the name. They sound good but have been thinking of putting a Jeff Beck in the bridge, I need a bit more crunch.

Very cool, thanks.

BTW, I still listen to and really dig Wired and Blow by Blow after all these years.

Wilder Amplification · 10-24-2009, 04:10 PM

Welcome. I personally prefer the EMGs in my Les Pauls but to each their own.

Could give you some pointers on your setup if I knew how you ran it. Do you get your overdrive from a pedal or do you get it from cranking the amp?

Hollowbody · 10-24-2009, 06:49 PM

Those EMG's active?

Wilder Amplification · 10-24-2009, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Hollowbody

Those EMG's active?

That they are. Just my opinion, but it's the only way to go if you plan to go with EMGs.

For the Les Paul you have to order them with long shank/shaft pots to be long enough to fit through both the grounding plate and the top. But other than that they drop right in with no cutting, drilling, etc etc. The battery wrapped in the foam it comes with fits nicely in the control cavity.

The other beauty of EMGs is that instead of having the pickup wires hardwired internally to the pickup, the harness plugs into a connector on the bottom of the pickup, so if you have two different ones (like an EMG 81 and 85) you can swap which one is the bridge pickup and which one is the neck and only have to swap the mounting rings to do it. For playing through a cranked/power soaked Marshall, I prefer the 85 in the bridge whereas for high gain stuff I prefer the 81 as the bridge pickup.

Here's a soundclip of one of them plugged into a cranked/power soaked Wilder Classic Classic, with the 85 in the bridge. Cab is a 73 Marshall straight cab with original G12H-30s.

http://www.wilderamplification.com/s...icclassic1.mp3

Slant cab with G12H-30 Anniversary series

http://www.wilderamplification.com/s.../Original1.mp3

chef · 10-24-2009, 11:05 PM

Well, as you know the JMPs are pretty basic. If memory serves (my rig is at my rehersal space) I've got the low up pretty high, around 8 mid about 4 and high around 6. The presence is at 7 I think. The gain is at 10 and volume is usually around 3, maybe 4 when we play out. I do like a pretty full & punchy sound, not much for the shrill. The Carvin cab helps, solid wood plys not fiber board.

Hollowbody · 10-24-2009, 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wilder Amplification

That they are. Just my opinion, but it's the only way to go if you plan to go with EMGs.

For the Les Paul you have to order them with long shank/shaft pots to be long enough to fit through both the grounding plate and the top. But other than that they drop right in with no cutting, drilling, etc etc. The battery wrapped in the foam it comes with fits nicely in the control cavity.

The other beauty of EMGs is that instead of having the pickup wires hardwired internally to the pickup, the harness plugs into a connector on the bottom of the pickup, so if you have two different ones (like an EMG 81 and 85) you can swap which one is the bridge pickup and which one is the neck and only have to swap the mounting rings to do it. For playing through a cranked/power soaked Marshall, I prefer the 85 in the bridge whereas for high gain stuff I prefer the 81 as the bridge pickup.

Here's a soundclip of one of them plugged into a cranked/power soaked Wilder Classic Classic, with the 85 in the bridge. Cab is a 73 Marshall straight cab with original G12H-30s.

http://www.wilderamplification.com/s...icclassic1.mp3

Slant cab with G12H-30 Anniversary series

http://www.wilderamplification.com/s.../Original1.mp3

Nice amp sound in those clips, really nice.

I don't like active pickups. I prefer passive Lollars or Frailins. I like the way they work with the front end of my amp.

But like you said, to each their own.

My friend has an active EMG PJ set in his Fender bass that is just amazing.

...always a huge Zeppelin fan.

Wilder Amplification · 10-25-2009, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Hollowbody

Nice amp sound in those clips, really nice.

I don't like active pickups. I prefer passive Lollars or Frailins. I like the way they work with the front end of my amp.

But like you said, to each their own.

My friend has an active EMG PJ set in his Fender bass that is just amazing.

...always a huge Zeppelin fan.

Well the beauty of active pickups is that what makes them "active" is the fact that they have an internal booster preamp inside of them. That allows me to drive the front of the amp harder than a passive pickup would. However, some like the dynamic response they get from passives and even though the EMGs do have a dynamic feel to them, they do have a bit less dynamic feel to them than a passive and their high output signal makes them a bit more responsive, which takes a bit more control to roll them off a bit.

Hollowbody · 10-25-2009, 07:22 AM

Yeah, I can do without driving the front end of my amp harder or extra electronics in the guitar. I also usually back off the preamp and let the KT66 work a little more.

Apostle Tone · 10-25-2009, 03:17 PM

Welcome. I'd love to have an old deluxe but it has to have the mini-humbuckers.

10-23-2009, 12:53 AM	#1 (permalink)
chef Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 3	Howdy From Dallas, just signed up. Been playing thru a '76 JMP 100w and '82 Carvin 4X12 for quite a while. I just put in 2 greenbacks and 2 70/80s a few months ago (the orginal Carvins turned to dust) and seems to be working fine thus far. Any suggestions on getting to most out of this set up? I also play a '73 SG Standard and a '74 Les Paul Deluxe retrofitted with T Tops, so it's more like a Standard now.

10-23-2009, 06:24 AM	#2 (permalink)
MacMan Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 34	Re: Howdy welcome

10-23-2009, 11:12 AM	#3 (permalink)
Hollowbody Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Tulsa / Northern Texas. Posts: 271	Re: Howdy Hey, welcome. Please excuse my ignorance, I have had 2 Les Pauls at different times but I never heard the term T Top. Is that for pickups?

10-24-2009, 06:49 PM	#7 (permalink)
Hollowbody Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Tulsa / Northern Texas. Posts: 271	Re: Howdy Those EMG's active?

10-24-2009, 11:05 PM	#9 (permalink)
chef Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 3	Re: Howdy Well, as you know the JMPs are pretty basic. If memory serves (my rig is at my rehersal space) I've got the low up pretty high, around 8 mid about 4 and high around 6. The presence is at 7 I think. The gain is at 10 and volume is usually around 3, maybe 4 when we play out. I do like a pretty full & punchy sound, not much for the shrill. The Carvin cab helps, solid wood plys not fiber board.

10-25-2009, 07:22 AM	#12 (permalink)
Hollowbody Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Tulsa / Northern Texas. Posts: 271	Re: Howdy Yeah, I can do without driving the front end of my amp harder or extra electronics in the guitar. I also usually back off the preamp and let the KT66 work a little more.

10-25-2009, 03:17 PM	#13 (permalink)
Apostle Tone Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 35	Re: Howdy Welcome. I'd love to have an old deluxe but it has to have the mini-humbuckers. __________________ Ignorance+Ego+Insecurity+Technology=funny

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