Jackson, Schecter or ESP?

Dammir93 · 10-14-2009, 09:06 PM

Hi guys!

I really need now a new guitar for metal...
I did some researches and have found this 3 really nice guitars:
Jackson King V, Schecter Hellraiser C-1 and ESP M-II NTB...
So what do you think? What is the best guitar of this 3?

So, thanx then... Bye

bro blue · 10-14-2009, 09:17 PM

"Best" is going to be a very subjective thing. Of the three I, personally, would go with the ESP based on my past and present experience with both ESP and LTD. Jacksons and Schecters aren't slouches, though.

Dammir93 · 10-15-2009, 12:26 PM

I playd on a Jackson KV and it has a heavy ton (like it).
I heard only good things about the ESP (the neck ist good end the ton is Wonderful with the EMG's)

steelhorse · 10-15-2009, 06:06 PM

This:

MetalHeadMat · 10-16-2009, 09:50 PM

What models?

MetalHeadMat · 10-16-2009, 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by steelhorse

This:

Woah, what is that :|

nofearfactor · 10-17-2009, 03:45 AM

ESP and then Schecter.

V-man · 10-17-2009, 07:44 PM

KV2 all the way

American Viking · 10-18-2009, 01:35 PM

ESP and Schecter are just machine cut, run of the mill, over produced, Jap-crap. Jackson's lower import models suck too. Jackson USA is the way to go. Schecter and ESP don't come close in quality of a handmade Jackson. As far as the imported Jackson bull shit guitars, the ESP/Schecters probably got it beat, but they still can't touch the USA Jacksons.

Forget all three, go Bernie Rico Jr. He'll hook you up with a hand made custom built to your spec guitar for the same price or lower than a brand new Jackson USA. The prices of those guitars is getting out of control since the Fender buyout. I own two American made Jacksons but I'm moving on to Bernie Jr.

steelhorse · 10-18-2009, 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetalHeadMat

Woah, what is that :

Custom completely hand built, NO CNC, no CAD Bernie Rico Jr. Jekyll 627, 27 fret, 25.5" scale, neck thru maple neck mahogany wings, flame maple top, ebony board.

Scope out my sig to check others out!

The one above in the pic is mine.

steelhorse · 10-18-2009, 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by American Viking

ESP and Schecter are just machine cut, run of the mill, over produced, Jap-crap. Jackson's lower import models suck too. Jackson USA is the way to go. Schecter and ESP don't come close in quality of a handmade Jackson. As far as the imported Jackson bull shit guitars, the ESP/Schecters probably got it beat, but they still can't touch the USA Jacksons.

Forget all three, go Bernie Rico Jr. He'll hook you up with a hand made custom built to your spec guitar for the same price or lower than a brand new Jackson USA. The prices of those guitars is getting out of control since the Fender buyout. I own two American made Jacksons but I'm moving on to Bernie Jr.

Rico Jr. all the way!

zslane · 10-18-2009, 05:36 PM

Ooo...I would love a Bernie Jr. custom Vixen in trans black...but I'm sure he's way too busy building guitars for the stars to make me one.

American Viking · 10-18-2009, 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zslane

Ooo...I would love a Bernie Jr. custom Vixen in trans black...but I'm sure he's way too busy building guitars for the stars to make me one.

Not true, I spoke with him Friday and he told me it's typically a 2-3 month turn around on guitars, and you only have to pay a small deposit as opposed to Jackson's 12 month wait on a PRODUCTION model and you have to pay up front. Bernie does have some stuff in stock right now that you won't have to wait for at all. I've also heard Gibson, Moser and others have an insanely long wait on custom orders. I know these companies are busy, but 12 months, that's a joke.

steelhorse · 10-18-2009, 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zslane

Ooo...I would love a Bernie Jr. custom Vixen in trans black...but I'm sure he's way too busy building guitars for the stars to make me one.

Do you gig zslane?

PM me. Either way I'll get you hooked up.

Dammir93 · 10-19-2009, 06:58 PM

I really want to check out the Bernie Rico models, but i dont know can he make me and send the guitar where i liv-Bosnien...
Thats the Problem.

LesBalls · 10-27-2009, 03:30 PM

Out of the three choices, I would go ESP. I own 2 of them (an M-II Deluxe and a Mirage) so I'm kind of biased

xxGuy · 11-01-2009, 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by American Viking

Not true, I spoke with him Friday and he told me it's typically a 2-3 month turn around on guitars, and you only have to pay a small deposit as opposed to Jackson's 12 month wait on a PRODUCTION model and you have to pay up front. Bernie does have some stuff in stock right now that you won't have to wait for at all. I've also heard Gibson, Moser and others have an insanely long wait on custom orders. I know these companies are busy, but 12 months, that's a joke.

At one point, Jackson's Custom shop had a 2-3 year wait.

Landshark · 11-09-2009, 06:30 AM

ESP owns Schecter so it's pretty much the same thing... even though I like Schecters over ESPs. I'm not a big fan of Jacksons. All just my opinion though.

I'd get the C-1. Or Save ya dollas for a BR Jr.

sacsplatiz · 11-11-2009, 02:27 PM

Oh man, this game is pretty sweet. Why can't more games have cutscenes that you want to see more of?

Starchild132 · Today, 01:58 PM

Dude i would totally go with Jackson, I know that they are not as good as the older models but they are still no doubt extremely good guitar check out there web site for there models, as for the other two esp seem really good but they all look like rip offs to me and Schecter are just works of art, i know im a Jackson man but if i wasn't it would defiantly be for Schecter

10-14-2009, 09:06 PM	#1 (permalink)
Dammir93 Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11	Jackson, Schecter or ESP? Hi guys! I really need now a new guitar for metal... I did some researches and have found this 3 really nice guitars: Jackson King V, Schecter Hellraiser C-1 and ESP M-II NTB... So what do you think? What is the best guitar of this 3? So, thanx then... Bye

10-14-2009, 09:17 PM	#2 (permalink)
bro blue Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Southern USA Posts: 112	Re: Jackson, Schecter or ESP? "Best" is going to be a very subjective thing. Of the three I, personally, would go with the ESP based on my past and present experience with both ESP and LTD. Jacksons and Schecters aren't slouches, though.

10-15-2009, 12:26 PM	#3 (permalink)
Dammir93 Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11	Re: Jackson, Schecter or ESP? I playd on a Jackson KV and it has a heavy ton (like it). I heard only good things about the ESP (the neck ist good end the ton is Wonderful with the EMG's)

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nofearfactor Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Hellbillyville Posts: 178	Re: Jackson, Schecter or ESP? ESP and then Schecter. __________________ myspace- http://www.myspace.com/nofearfactor some gear pics- http://community.webshots.com/album/...ecurity=QbSaeN

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V-man Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 189	Re: Jackson, Schecter or ESP? KV2 all the way __________________ Gibson: '88' Explorer 90, Flying Vs - '02' V-Factor, '06' RI, '07' RI Jackson: '92' Rhoads Tribute, '92' Rhoads PCS, '02' KV2 '92' ESP/Hill King V '04' Epiphone Goth V '81' Marshall 1992 '92' Marshall 4100 '97' Crate Blue Voodoo BV-60 Combo

10-18-2009, 01:35 PM	#9 (permalink)
American Viking Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: RICHMOND, VIRGINIA Posts: 1,510	Re: Jackson, Schecter or ESP? ESP and Schecter are just machine cut, run of the mill, over produced, Jap-crap. Jackson's lower import models suck too. Jackson USA is the way to go. Schecter and ESP don't come close in quality of a handmade Jackson. As far as the imported Jackson bull shit guitars, the ESP/Schecters probably got it beat, but they still can't touch the USA Jacksons. Forget all three, go Bernie Rico Jr. He'll hook you up with a hand made custom built to your spec guitar for the same price or lower than a brand new Jackson USA. The prices of those guitars is getting out of control since the Fender buyout. I own two American made Jacksons but I'm moving on to Bernie Jr. __________________ -I'd rather be a good liver than have one...

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zslane Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 286	Re: Jackson, Schecter or ESP? Ooo...I would love a Bernie Jr. custom Vixen in trans black...but I'm sure he's way too busy building guitars for the stars to make me one. __________________ JCM2000 DSL-100 head + 1960A 4x12 cab 30th Anniversary 6100 head JCM2000 DSL-401 combo Les Paul Standards ('96 Goldtop, '99 Ebony, '03 Honeyburst) Les Paul Custom ('04 Alpine White w/ gold hardware) Les Paul Supreme ('07 Trans Black w/ black hardware)

10-19-2009, 06:58 PM	#15 (permalink)
Dammir93 Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11	Re: Jackson, Schecter or ESP? I really want to check out the Bernie Rico models, but i dont know can he make me and send the guitar where i liv-Bosnien... Thats the Problem.

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LesBalls Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: USA Posts: 63	Re: Jackson, Schecter or ESP? Out of the three choices, I would go ESP. I own 2 of them (an M-II Deluxe and a Mirage) so I'm kind of biased

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Starchild132 Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Cottage Hills, Il Posts: 36	Re: Jackson, Schecter or ESP? Dude i would totally go with Jackson, I know that they are not as good as the older models but they are still no doubt extremely good guitar check out there web site for there models, as for the other two esp seem really good but they all look like rip offs to me and Schecter are just works of art, i know im a Jackson man but if i wasn't it would defiantly be for Schecter __________________ I am the "Original Sin" B.C Rich Masterpiece series Bich B.C Rich Bronze series Mockingbird Crate Standard Electra Les Paul (first guitar ) Crate GFX 120

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